dropdeded 0 #1 May 16, 2004 Talked for awhile yesterday to some guy thats involved in putting a museum together in I think he said Eloy. There was some guys jumping rounds in Taft yesterday and this guy took the time to explain a LOT of stuff about them to me (not that I understood all of it). Cant remember the guys name but what an interesting conversation. This dudes been around and was more than happy to take the time to BS with a lowtimer, way cool dropdeded------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #2 May 16, 2004 Museums are cool. I like to go to the zoo though. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropdeded 0 #3 May 16, 2004 Museums are cool. I like to go to the zoo though. ------------------------------------------------------------ Well, its a skydiving museum so zoo probably describes it just fine dropdeded------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #4 May 16, 2004 There has to be a section that is dedicated to the history of beer. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 May 16, 2004 While Eloy is one of the centers of the skydiving world, putting a museum there makes about as much sense as putting a ski resort. If ever there is a skydiving museum, it belongs in/near Washington D.C..quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jverley 1 #6 May 17, 2004 QuoteIf ever there is a skydiving museum, it belongs in/near Washington D.C.. I have to disagree. Eloy has held a prominent place in skydiving history for almost 20% of modern skydiving history (1960-present). In addition the general central Arizona area has a storied past (Casa Grande, Coolidge, Marana). There are certainly other places that have a valid claim to skydiving history such as Perris, Elsinore, and Muskogee. But DC is not one of them. I have no idea if a museum is really planned or not but it needs to be where the skydivers are, not the politicians are.John Arizona Hiking Trails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #7 May 17, 2004 And Eloy has about 0% attraction for a tourist spot to anyone not in the sport._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 May 17, 2004 Quote And Eloy has about 0% attraction for a tourist spot to anyone not in the sport. I know that before becoming a skydiver I had always dreamed of one day staying at the luxury resort known as the Toltec Inn. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jverley 1 #9 May 17, 2004 Central Arizona gets tens of thousands of winter visitors (snow birds) each year. They stay in garden spots like as Arizona City, Casa Grande and Coolidge. If you ever go to Skydive Arizona during the winter there are usually a couple hundred geriatrics out for the day, just watching the skydivers. Again, I do not argue that Eloy is the best place for a museum. But it makes more sense than DC.John Arizona Hiking Trails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 May 17, 2004 A museum is pointless if few people ever see it. Quote Central Arizona gets tens of thousands of winter visitors (snow birds) each year. However, Washington DC gets tens of millions of visitors each year. The most popular attraction in Washington DC is the National Air and Space Museum with about 8 million visitors per year alone. To put that into perspective, that's more than just about any single amusement park with the exception of those with the name Disney in the title. My personal preference would be to somehow convince the NASM to house a permanent exhibit, however the USPA is convinced it can build a stand alone facility that can generate enough revenue to be self sustaining. Maybe you haven't been following this topic in the USPA news. Just to get you up to speed, you might want to take a look at this. http://www.uspa.org/publications/parachutist/capcom.11.03.htmquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #11 May 17, 2004 QuoteAnd Eloy has about 0% attraction for a tourist spot to anyone not in the sport. Is that so? You want to explain to me why then I have given countless tours and lectures to thousands of visitors thispast year? All non-skydivers. As to the museum issue it is something that has been talked about since the early 90s. If a museum ere to be put in Eloy, it certainly would not be meant to compete with the USPA national parachuting museum . If one can't see the validity of having one...no problem! We're just an itty bitty lil desert place....nothing to see here...move along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #12 May 17, 2004 If my USPA money was somehow being used to build something in Eloy, I would make a rather large stink about it. Even as a skydiver I have very little drive to go to Eloy....I'd first take a triip to Perris, Elisinore, The Ranch, Lost Prarie, Skydive Hawaii, etc... I've heard it's a great dz, but the location just isn't a draw. It's the same issue I have with the tunnel there, I'd much rather use the one in Orlando then go to Eloy to use one. But that's just me. I dated a travel agent for a year and never once did I hear of Eloy as a place she planned for anyone to go to. I'm sure Eloy gets just as many snowbirds as ZHills does (I've seen them in large crowds out there all this winter) and I still wouldn't support a museum there. As Quade pointed out, you may see thousands but Washington and a variety of other cities see millions. Eloy would get accidental tourists that just happened to be in the area and stopped by, whereas Washinton, New York, Chicago, Orlando, Hawaii all have a built in tourist industry that makes billions of dollars a year. That is a much better business model by default._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #13 May 17, 2004 QuoteIf my USPA money was somehow being used to build something in Eloy, Who said anything about USPA monies? IF SDA decided to have a small onsite museum I assure you it would be by the efforts of the folks that live here. (No worries your money is safe) Quote Eloy would get accidental tourists As to accidental touriost, I am afraid that you are misinformed. We have weekly tours that are a scheduled through the visitors center, and is one of the most popular tours offered. QuoteIt's the same issue I have with the tunnel there, I'd much rather use the one in Orlando then go to Eloy to use one. But that's just me. Yes and that IS why we have chocolate and vanilla ice cream...choices...why...some even like it swirled! Imagine that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 May 17, 2004 And . . . all of the above said, if Eloy independantly put together an on-site museum, I'd love to see it! I can see where it would be an interesting addition to the drop zone.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #15 May 17, 2004 QuoteAnd . . . all of the above said, if Eloy independantly put together an on-site museum, I'd love to see it! I can see where it would be an interesting addition to the drop zone Thank you Qwark I think it might be interesting as well...now if I just had more time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
