lawrocket 3 #1 May 18, 2004 Let's say Al Davis and his wife are my client. I want to write "Davis" in plural, but not possessive. Is it "The Davises?" Or "The Davis'?" Or "The Davis's?" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 May 18, 2004 The Davises. Unless you're showing possession, and then it would be The Davises'. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #3 May 18, 2004 Either "Davis'....or Davis's" would work."Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 May 18, 2004 That's what I thought. Thanks, Kel... Edit: that was the first grammar lesson you gave me. BEER!!! Edit again - shoot. Orchid says something else.. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #5 May 18, 2004 I'm thinking you would only use an apostrophe if it was a possessive.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #6 May 18, 2004 Kelly's right. Davises- Plural Davis' - Possessive Davises' - Plural Possessive Nouns ending in s, z, ch, sh, and x Nouns with these letters at the end call for an "es" in the plural form. This added syllable makes pronunciation easier. For the possessive form of plural nouns ending in "s," add only an apostrophe to the plural form of the noun: Singers' voices The cousins' favorite uncle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bvsdjumper 0 #7 May 18, 2004 I'm not an English expert, but here's what I gather from This Site In the section for Plural Possessives: QuoteTo make most nouns plural, add an -s or -es. The -es is added to words that end in an s or z sound. Do not use an apostrophe. Examples: lands dresses taxes quizzes Incorrect: Twenty dog's were in the pack. Correct: Twenty dogs were in the pack. (emphasis mine) Also, QuoteThe apostrophe is generally used with the letter s to indicate possession. It is also used in various ways to show letters have been left out of a word. One thing I'm pretty sure of is that Apostrophes are not used to make a word plural. I believe this makes "Davises" the correct choice. --ArtSky-div'ing (ski'div'ing) n. A modern sport that involves parties, bragging, sexual excesses, the imbibing of large quantities of beer, and, on rare occasions, parachuting from aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunBobby 0 #8 May 18, 2004 QuoteI'm thinking you would only use an apostrophe if it was a possessive. Yep. Apostrophes are used meant to pluralize numerals, letters, and abbreviations, but not complete words or names The Joneses, twin brothers, were given two radios by their JM's. FunBobby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurel 0 #9 May 18, 2004 QuoteThe Joneses, twin brothers, were given two radios by their JM's and listened to Mr. Davis' new hit song, which he dedicated to the Joneses' dog. added a little possessive and plural possessive to that. Wow, sorry for the confusing sentence, though. ..................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #10 May 18, 2004 but wouldnt it be: "the Jones' dog. ?? Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunBobby 0 #11 May 18, 2004 Holy grammatical trainwreck!!!! I can handle it, though. I is college edjumicated, ya' know? Quotebut wouldnt it be: "the Jones' dog. ?? From the "Grammar Slammer" website (referenced above by bvsdjumper): If the singular noun ends with an s, add apostrophe s if the extra syllable is pronounced. If the extra syllable is not pronounced (or if it otherwise looks confusing to add apostrophe s), simply add an apostrophe. Examples: the dress's hem (Added syllable is pronounced.) Lloyd Bridges' son (Added syllable is not pronounced.) Some authorities always add an apostrophe only to any word ending with s, regardless of its pronunciation. This is acceptable. Whichever standard you follow, be consistent. Example: the dress' hem (Word ends in s, pronunciation does not matter.) Also: To make a plural noun possessive, simply add an apostrophe to the word. If the plural does not end in an s, then add an apostrophe plus s. Examples: The girls' dresses (The dresses belonging to the girls.) The Wilsons' house (The Wilsons live in the house.) The men's room (Plural does not end in s.) Joneses' is correct there, because the dog belongs to Tom and Harry Jones - 2 Joneses. FunBobby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laurel 0 #12 May 19, 2004 I'm such a grammar geek - this was fun...................................................................... PMS#28, Pelogrande Rodriguez#1074 My Pink M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #13 May 19, 2004 QuoteKelly's right. Davises- Plural Davis' - Possessive Davises' - Plural Possessive Nouns ending in s, z, ch, sh, and x Nouns with these letters at the end call for an "es" in the plural form. This added syllable makes pronunciation easier. For the possessive form of plural nouns ending in "s," add only an apostrophe to the plural form of the noun: Singers' voices The cousins' favorite uncle And remember, be alert for the rare exceptions: Cactus Cacti - plural Cactus' - singular possessive Cacti's - plural possessive So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #14 May 19, 2004 Nope. If you have one guy named Jones, the phrase would be "Jones' dog" but if you have multiple people named Jones, it would be "the Joneses' dog" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites