sdctlc 0 #1 July 14, 2004 Recently got a 88 Shadow 1100. Just got it running and it freshly registered and back on the road again! Got a smoking deal on the bike but still some small things to do like needing to replace front break pads, and some other little things. The only big thing is a huge dent on the other side of tank (not in the picture). Looking for a replacement tank now but until then its road ready, oh yeah!! Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #2 July 14, 2004 Umm FRONT brake pads a a tad more important the Quote"some small things to do like needing to replace front break pads" 70% of your stopping power in in your front brakes, please elevate them to a more imprtant position on the must do listYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #3 July 14, 2004 QuoteUmm FRONT brake pads a a tad more important the Quote"some small things to do like needing to replace front break pads" 70% of your stopping power in in your front brakes, please elevate them to a more imprtant position on the must do list Elevate them, hell they are on the way and will be on in the next few days. They are very high, i.e. #1, on my to do list. I looked at them and they are not totally shot now but need replacement. I could get away with them for awhile but why not replace them, its an easy thing to do..... I appreciate the the thinking though, good to know somebody cares!!! Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #4 July 14, 2004 No Problemo, I know what it's like to grab a handful of brake lever and then start yelling "OH Fuck" this is gunna leave a mark Nice looking bike BTWYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #5 July 14, 2004 sweet ride!_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 7 #6 July 14, 2004 It's easy to fix the dent in the gas tank. Just drain the gas and while there is still fumes in it toss in a match. From a safe distance and if you are lucky the dent will dissapear and maybe it will not blow out a seam Or you can take the tank off and fill it with water then put it in a freazer and when it freazes it will pop the dent out I have known people that have used both methods to some success but use them at your own risk no guarenties Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #7 July 14, 2004 Very cool, Scotty! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #8 July 14, 2004 Quote Umm FRONT brake pads a a tad more important the Nah, the Hells Angels used to chop off their front brakes on a regular basis. (Hence where the term 'chopper' came from. -- but the also chopped of lots of other things.)This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #9 July 14, 2004 QuoteNah, the Hells Angels used to chop off their front brakes on a regular basis. (Hence where the term 'chopper' came from. -- but the also chopped of lots of other things.) Ummm....not quite. Choppers were around in the 30's and 40's with the British bikes. They came after "Bobbers", where bits of the fender and such were bobbed off. Choppers differ in the fact that the frame geometry is changed in relation to the front forks. The frame is "chopped" and the front-end geometry changed.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #10 July 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteNah, the Hells Angels used to chop off their front brakes on a regular basis. (Hence where the term 'chopper' came from. -- but the also chopped of lots of other things.) Ummm....not quite. Choppers were around in the 30's and 40's with the British bikes. They came after "Bobbers", where bits of the fender and such were bobbed off. Choppers differ in the fact that the frame geometry is changed in relation to the front forks. The frame is "chopped" and the front-end geometry changed. Oooooh...I learned that on the History channel...... ~R+R...When I had a broken ankle, I had a lot of time on my hands...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #11 July 14, 2004 NICE............. If your local bent bike shops dont have a tank and dont have internet access to other parts shops and their inventorys, give Rods cycle salvage a call in Yakima Wa. He can usually find anything. I dont have his number just off hand, but you can get it with directory assistance, its a very nice bike......... PS: first.....brake pads.....2nd ....tank where ya gonna mount the cypress RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #12 July 14, 2004 QuoteIt's easy to fix the dent in the gas tank. Just drain the gas and while there is still fumes in it toss in a match. From a safe distance and if you are lucky the dent will dissapear and maybe it will not blow out a seam Or you can take the tank off and fill it with water then put it in a freazer and when it freazes it will pop the dent out I have known people that have used both methods to some success but use them at your own risk no guarenties Neither one of those will work well, fuel tanks are ussually "double skinned" so expanding the inner skin will not nessacarily fix the outer skin. However if the inner skin is blown out properly you can just bogg up the outer skinYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #13 July 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt's easy to fix the dent in the gas tank. Just drain the gas and while there is still fumes in it toss in a match. From a safe distance and if you are lucky the dent will dissapear and maybe it will not blow out a seam Or you can take the tank off and fill it with water then put it in a freazer and when it freazes it will pop the dent out I have known people that have used both methods to some success but use them at your own risk no guarenties Neither one of those will work well, fuel tanks are ussually "double skinned" so expanding the inner skin will not nessacarily fix the outer skin. However if the inner skin is blown out properly you can just bogg up the outer skin Tossing a match into your empty petrol tank will just blow it up and create more holes than you had before. I dunno where Squeak gets the idea that fuel tanks are double skinned, of all the bikes I've ever owned, rebuilt or seen, I've never come across one that is double skinned with the exception of bikes where the tank is a dummy like on a Goldwing. There are 4 methods I use to restore fuel tanks. 1) buy a new tank 2) stuff an inner tube inside the tank with the valve sticking out of the filler cap, then just inflate it, this can push the dent out if the metal is not creased. 3) Grind out the dent and solder a nut onto it, then use a slide hammer to pull out the dent. I spot weld nails into the dent instead of soldering but both work. Remember to squirt plenty of CO2 in there to stop the fumes igniting when you heat it up. 4) if it is really bad and you can't get a new tank, split the seams to remove the bottom. then use a dolly and hammer to knock out the dent. Reweld up your tank, reshape and repaint. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #14 July 14, 2004 Bah...the first step in chopping is getting rid of those bulky front brakes. Besides, it's just one more lever to contend with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #15 July 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteI dunno where Squeak gets the idea that fuel tanks are double skinned, of all the bikes I've ever owned, rebuilt or seen, I've never come across one that is double skinned with the exception of bikes where the tank is a dummy like on a Goldwing. . All the bikes I'v own have badges on them these badges have pins that go into the side of the tank, if thery're single skinned wouldn't the fuel leak out the pin holes (when I say pin hole, I mean3mm holes).You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #16 July 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteNah, the Hells Angels used to chop off their front brakes on a regular basis. (Hence where the term 'chopper' came from. -- but the also chopped of lots of other things.) Ummm....not quite. Choppers were around in the 30's and 40's with the British bikes. They came after "Bobbers", where bits of the fender and such were bobbed off. Choppers differ in the fact that the frame geometry is changed in relation to the front forks. The frame is "chopped" and the front-end geometry changed. Not quite. The term really results from the postwar and later practice of removing just about everything from a motorcycle that was deemed uneccesary to lose weight, and thereby improve performance. The term "chopper" came from the philosohpy of "start the bike, start chopping things off it. Keep going until the engine quits, then bold that last part back on and go riding". The practice of raking the neck angle to accomodate longer front ends came later. The introduction of "chopper" into the vernacular to mean those bikes with the long front ends came about through such popular culture movies as Easy Rider, though those bikes were essentially customs, and not choppers. The phrase "bobber" and "chopper" are essentially the same thing. It doesn't really matter though, other than as a data point on the road of life. One thing is for sure, 99% of today's companies that have the word Chopper in the their title are as far away from the philosphy of the original chopper as you can get. West Coast and OCC come to mind. A true chopper doesn't cost six figures and live in a garage. It's the product of a shadetree mechanic with an imagination and a cutting wheel at it's heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JackC 0 #17 July 14, 2004 QuoteAll the bikes I'v own have badges on them these badges have pins that go into the side of the tank, if thery're single skinned wouldn't the fuel leak out the pin holes (when I say pin hole, I mean3mm holes). There is a recess in the tank underneath the badge, that recess has a mounting bracket welded into it. The mounting bracket has the holes in it, not the tank itself. I've never seen a double skinned fuel tank, unless the bit you see is only a cover, in which case you can take it off to reveal the airbox, frame and other assorted shite which may include the real fuel tank underneath.Just don't anybody go tossing matches into one unless you have a fetish for removing schrapnel from your skull. I've seen an MG fuel tank embedded in an oak door because someone wanted to weld it up without the proper precautions. I also remember a guy welding close to a fuel tank, everyone told him to take the tank out but he knew better. Two minutes later, BANG and 9 gallons of premium emptied itself all over the floor. Luckily the explosion blew out the flame on the welding torch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #18 July 14, 2004 Right on, that's a good looking bike.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #19 July 14, 2004 QuoteThere is a recess in the tank underneath the badge, that recess has a mounting bracket welded into it. The mounting bracket has the holes in it, not the tank itself Oh Ok my Bad This is my baby her name is Gina (as in Lolabrigida [sp] a "classic Italian")You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites usedtajump 1 #20 July 14, 2004 A couple of the guys on the Honda Magna board I frequent have had tank dents removed at the local "dent popper" shop for a very reasonable fee. Depending on the type and size dent, it's worth checking out. BTW, very nice ride. Ride Safe.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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gjhdiver 0 #16 July 14, 2004 QuoteQuoteNah, the Hells Angels used to chop off their front brakes on a regular basis. (Hence where the term 'chopper' came from. -- but the also chopped of lots of other things.) Ummm....not quite. Choppers were around in the 30's and 40's with the British bikes. They came after "Bobbers", where bits of the fender and such were bobbed off. Choppers differ in the fact that the frame geometry is changed in relation to the front forks. The frame is "chopped" and the front-end geometry changed. Not quite. The term really results from the postwar and later practice of removing just about everything from a motorcycle that was deemed uneccesary to lose weight, and thereby improve performance. The term "chopper" came from the philosohpy of "start the bike, start chopping things off it. Keep going until the engine quits, then bold that last part back on and go riding". The practice of raking the neck angle to accomodate longer front ends came later. The introduction of "chopper" into the vernacular to mean those bikes with the long front ends came about through such popular culture movies as Easy Rider, though those bikes were essentially customs, and not choppers. The phrase "bobber" and "chopper" are essentially the same thing. It doesn't really matter though, other than as a data point on the road of life. One thing is for sure, 99% of today's companies that have the word Chopper in the their title are as far away from the philosphy of the original chopper as you can get. West Coast and OCC come to mind. A true chopper doesn't cost six figures and live in a garage. It's the product of a shadetree mechanic with an imagination and a cutting wheel at it's heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #17 July 14, 2004 QuoteAll the bikes I'v own have badges on them these badges have pins that go into the side of the tank, if thery're single skinned wouldn't the fuel leak out the pin holes (when I say pin hole, I mean3mm holes). There is a recess in the tank underneath the badge, that recess has a mounting bracket welded into it. The mounting bracket has the holes in it, not the tank itself. I've never seen a double skinned fuel tank, unless the bit you see is only a cover, in which case you can take it off to reveal the airbox, frame and other assorted shite which may include the real fuel tank underneath.Just don't anybody go tossing matches into one unless you have a fetish for removing schrapnel from your skull. I've seen an MG fuel tank embedded in an oak door because someone wanted to weld it up without the proper precautions. I also remember a guy welding close to a fuel tank, everyone told him to take the tank out but he knew better. Two minutes later, BANG and 9 gallons of premium emptied itself all over the floor. Luckily the explosion blew out the flame on the welding torch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 July 14, 2004 Right on, that's a good looking bike.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #19 July 14, 2004 QuoteThere is a recess in the tank underneath the badge, that recess has a mounting bracket welded into it. The mounting bracket has the holes in it, not the tank itself Oh Ok my Bad This is my baby her name is Gina (as in Lolabrigida [sp] a "classic Italian")You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #20 July 14, 2004 A couple of the guys on the Honda Magna board I frequent have had tank dents removed at the local "dent popper" shop for a very reasonable fee. Depending on the type and size dent, it's worth checking out. BTW, very nice ride. Ride Safe.The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites