Unstable 9 #1 July 19, 2004 This is something that has been bugging me for quite a while now - Maybe if I put my frusterations out in the Open now I'll have them put to ease - Maybe there is another explanation!! I'm a non-drinker. I buy cases of Lemonaid and water when I'm called. It aggrivates the hell out out of me when I pay "x" amount for a boogie and see how much of the regestration fee goes into paying for the Keg. Why can't more boogies offer discounts for non-drinkers!?! I'll be happy to wear a different color or goofy bracelet!! I know how much a DZ puts into beer for a boogie, why Am I paying for other people to drink!! I Want a Discount!! Ahhh, my rant is over. Thanks everybody... =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #2 July 19, 2004 Maybe if you take your concern to the DZO they will have some Lemonade or even some Cheese to go with your whine The Fee goes to more then just beer....talk to the DZO....... MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 July 19, 2004 Lets pick an average "boogie" beer like Bud LIght. Bud Light (atleast around here) is about $60 a keg. Lets say your average boogie has 150 people and they go through 3 kegs. Lets also say that the registration fee was $25. That's $3750 in registration fees. And $180 in Beer. So basically everyone is chipping in $1.20 for their part of the beer. Fine, you can have your $1.20 back. See, the majority of the boogie fee goes to other things that *are* expensive, like ferry fees for the aircraft and such.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #4 July 19, 2004 How much does a beer truck cost??=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tspillers 0 #5 July 19, 2004 Not to mention T-shirts, LO's, ect. If I don't want the t-shirt and don't use the LO's, can I get money back?? Being sarcastic only to prove a point, not to be mean. Todd I am not totally useless, I can be used as a bad example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #6 July 19, 2004 QuoteCheese to go with your whine Why is that a Whine? I'm finding out information here (actual costs, et cetera) that are putting my concerns to rest.. I appreciate the help, I really do, but I Don't appreciate being told I'm whining..=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #7 July 19, 2004 I wasn't trying to be a damn troll here. My mistake, lets let this thread die...=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #8 July 19, 2004 Just teasing ya bro See the Nothing personal I whine all the Time MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #9 July 19, 2004 QuoteJust teasing ya bro See the Nothing personal I whine all the Time It's all good - I just got my underwear in a twist this morning... =========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #10 July 19, 2004 I actually found the concept of this thread interesting. Sometimes our boogie fee includes dinner, but sometimes it doesn't. And if it doesn't, what does it pay for? I've never gotten a t-shirt, and how much do LO's make? It seems like $15 per person going towards beer and LO's only is a LOT of money. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 July 19, 2004 Generally the LOs don't make much of anything, if anything. The LO's slot is covered, so that's money flying out the door, so to speak, on the DZ's part. Remember, the DZ has to make money to be able to hold these sorts of events, if they end up in the red, then they won't be able to have good boogies. A lot of the boogies I've gone to have been put on by the DZ for the love of the sport, etc, knowing that they'll be lucky to break even, but they wanted to have a good time for everyone. There's a reason why those boogies only happen once.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,095 #12 July 19, 2004 > I actually found the concept of this thread interesting. Sometimes our > boogie fee includes dinner, but sometimes it doesn't. And if it doesn't, >what does it pay for? Aircraft ferry fees, slots for organizers, a DJ, T-shirts, food, advertising, wind blades . . . there are a lot of things that go in to organizing a boogie. >and how much do LO's make? At Rantoul we make nothing. Free slot, that's it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #13 July 19, 2004 QuoteAircraft ferry fees, slots for organizers, a DJ, T-shirts, food, advertising, wind blades .........and the strippers don't come cheap either! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #14 July 19, 2004 It's hard sometimes to imagine all that goes into a good boogie. Thanks Bill.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #15 July 19, 2004 QuoteAircraft ferry fees, slots for organizers, a DJ These are actually good examples . . . that helps. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #16 July 19, 2004 How many times have you paid for something, and never used it? I go to events all the time that have food/attractions included in the price, but never eat it. It is a waste for me. I see the cooks view also, don't know how many tickets sold don't know how much food to cook. It is a waste to cook a pay per plate jambalaya for 200 people and only 50 people eat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #17 July 19, 2004 I can't speak for everyone's events but for the Gravity Rats Freefly Revolution now in its third year. We charge $25 and with dinner, t-shirts, beer, medals, and the band we barely break even each year. But we have a blast! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,095 #18 July 19, 2004 >It is a waste for me. Well, boogie organizers have a choice as to how to pay for stuff. They can up ticket prices, do a pay-per-use thing, or have a boogie fee. If it's pay-per-use they have to deal with having a cashier and security (you generally need security around large amounts of money) and they have to order twice as much as they need for last-minute people who want to eat/want a T-shirt, which means that the pay-per-use ends up being a lot more expensive. They can do it via jump prices, but most people go to boogies to jump a lot, and you're basically penalizing the people who want to jump a lot if you go that route. That leaves a registration fee, which is something they are already set up to do (for first jump students.) Fortunately, there is an easy answer if you don't like that method of raising money - don't go to boogies that charge registration fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #19 July 19, 2004 Quotedon't go to boogies that charge registration fees. heh, not many boogies like that. All of the really kickass boogies I've ever been to had to have a fee, the wouldn't have been able to pull off the cool stuff they had for everyone (aircraft, food, t-shirt, etc) without one.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #20 July 19, 2004 I am all for whatever is easier. I stated that I often let people have my money and not recieve anything. Then I set up an example showing how I understand that they do it that way b/c of planning. Skydiving is expensive I stopped bitching about money a long time ago:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 July 19, 2004 Quoteor even some Cheese to go with your whine Yep. Ditto. Beause you know none of the registation ever goes to food, ferry fees for extra aircraft, bands, extra staff, givaways, raffles, advertizing, ect. Many smaller DZ's anual boogies are often a "break even" event.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #22 July 19, 2004 QuoteYep. Ditto. We've discussed that already...=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #23 July 19, 2004 Quote How much does a beer truck cost?? They are usually dontated by the beer provider. Generally doesn't cost anything to bring in a beer truck. Couch Freaks has a beer truck, but it includes root beer and they have had the truck for awhile now. The ferry cost for planes are pretty high, for us to get a king air at our boogie, we were looking at $1400 just in ferry costs. I see where you are coming from though unstable, some of the boogies I've been to this year actually had discounted reg fees if you weren't going to be there to whole time (i.e. dinner, beer etc etc)<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #24 July 19, 2004 QuoteI see where you are coming from though unstable, some of the boogies I've been to this year actually had discounted reg fees if you weren't going to be there to whole time (i.e. dinner, beer etc etc) It's probably not even worth worry about. I misunderstood a few things that this thread cleared up for me. (thanks, everybody.)=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #25 July 19, 2004 I always look at a registration fee as a personal challenge. Lets take the $69 for WFFC. I get there on Monday and I'll give you odds that I'm in the black on beer consumption alone by Wed night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
