Diff between skim and non-fat???

[jimbarry 0]

Starbucks.

I asked for skim and he put in 2%. When I said skim I meant non-fat. Dude says all smartass-y "skim is 2%, non-fat is non-fat". I said "no, skim is non-fat, 2% is low-fat."

Dude said I needed to pay again if I wanted a new one. Look skippy, just give me that one. Whatever...

I'm from NJ but living in SoCal. Is this a regional thing? Back in NJ, skim means non-fat.

[Steel 0]

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Starbucks.

I asked for skim and he put in 2%. When I said skim I meant non-fat. Dude says all smartass-y "skim is 2%, non-fat is non-fat". I said "no, skim is non-fat, 2% is low-fat."

Dude said I needed to pay again if I wanted a new one. Look skippy, just give me that one. Whatever...

I'm from NJ but living in SoCal. Is this a regional thing? Back in NJ, skim means non-fat.

Dude its even worse than that. When they say 2% what they mean is that if you drink 1, 8 oz. serving of it, you will have have 2% of your recommended daily fat values. Its not anywhere near 98% fat free. Its actually around loaded with about 20% fat. Its nasty. Drinking whole milk is even worse. I believe the last time I looked it was about 150 calories per 8 oz. serving with 70 of those calories coming from fat. Its funny how titles can make people feel good but reading and understanding the nutrition facts will be a totally different story.

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I am from SoCal originally too and skim = non-fat to me...

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[jimbarry 0]

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loaded with about 20% fat.

Nice...

[jimbarry 0]

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I am from SoCal originally too and skim = non-fat to me...

Thanks.

I even turned to others in line and said "anyone else want 'in' on this?" all just stood there... pre-caffeine morning, I guess...

[Icon134 0]

Skim is no-fat... no-fat is skim... these are merely different terms for the same thing.

2% is neither... the Clerk at the starbucks is a moron...

one can only hope that sooner or later he'll learn.

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Steel sez:
Dude its even worse than that. When they say 2% what they mean is that if you drink 1, 8 oz. serving of it, you will have have 2% of your recommended daily fat values. Its not anywhere near 98% fat free. Its actually around loaded with about 20% fat.

Actually, no.

Wikipedia is your friend

Full cream milk has the full milk fat content (about 4%). Semi-skimmed milk has about half the milk fat removed (1.5-1.8% fat content). Skimmed milk has almost all the milk fat removed (about 0.1% fat content). Milk in the U.S. is sold in skim, 1/2 per cent (low fat), 1 per cent (low fat), 2 per cent (reduced fat), and whole varieties.

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Dude its even worse than that. When they say 2% what they mean is that if you drink 1, 8 oz. serving of it, you will have have 2% of your recommended daily fat values. Its not anywhere near 98% fat free. Its actually around loaded with about 20% fat.

Doesnt sound right.

2% milk has 2% of its mass is fat. Now, since its mostly water, it actually has a much higher fat content when looking at it on a calorie content basis.

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Starbucks makes up their own versions of normal things all the time.. for example a "macchiato" in a normal coffee house is nothing like the starbucks version of a macchiato.

Wanna f-with Starbucks? Go in and order a "small coffee". They'll look at you like you're from Maxwell House.

[PhillyKev 0]

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Wanna f-with Starbucks? Go in and order a "small coffee".

No thanks, I've tried that. Their coffee sucks. Thought it might just be that one place, so I tried all 3 between work and my house (a distance of 5 blocks), they all suck. But there's a new one opening up in the vast wasteland of 2 city blocks separating two of them. Maybe that one will be better.

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Starbucks.

I asked for skim and he put in 2%. When I said skim I meant non-fat. Dude says all smartass-y "skim is 2%, non-fat is non-fat". I said "no, skim is non-fat, 2% is low-fat."

Dude said I needed to pay again if I wanted a new one. Look skippy, just give me that one. Whatever...

I'm from NJ but living in SoCal. Is this a regional thing? Back in NJ, skim means non-fat.

Dude, just order it with soy instead. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back to milk of any type again. That stuff is just liquid meat. Also, after I read about the allowed pus count in milk by the USDA (yes, you read that right - pus), I won't ever drink it again. Basically, CA has one of the tightest regulation for the amount of pus allowed in milk, and there's pus in all milk. It equates to a thimblefull in a normal quart.

If you saw me pour a thimblefull of pus in your milk, would you drink it ?

Go read the milk facts at http://www.notmilk.com/

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Skim is non-fat. Whole is fat. If you order 'low fat' at Starbucks, Seattle's Best, or any corporate coffee chain, you'll get a cup with half skim/half whole in it, because it costs too much for them to stock 2% milk since so few people ask.

Before I started working at Seattle's Best, I hated Starbucks because their baristas are just plain rude, not to mention often dumber than bricks. Since I started working in coffee, I hate Starbucks because of the above, PLUS it turns out they boil their coffee (which is why it tastes like shit). Not to mention the Starbucks customers who come into my store and throw that fake-italian tall/small/venti/grande/muchacho whatever crap at me. I've just started assuming that when people order a 'tall' coffee, they mean 'extra extra large'.

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That stuff is just liquid meat

mmmmmm
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[jimbarry 0]

Thanks for the inside info. Didn't know that's how they did 2% at starbucks. The cup just had "2%" written on the side. Yeah, 2%, y'know... skim.

Yeah, "tall" is small. Don't get me started. I'm new to starbucks, cuz my g.f. drinks coffee but I don't, so I hate getting sucked into idiocy from 'baristas' like my boy skippy there...

Thanks everyone else for your input.

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Yeah, "tall" is small. Don't get me started. I'm new to starbucks, cuz my g.f. drinks coffee but I don't, so I hate getting sucked into idiocy from 'baristas' like my boy skippy there...

Thanks everyone else for your input.

WTF is a Barista, is that what coffee shop employees call them selves so that they don't sound like they have a shite job.


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Nah I don't need your thimble full of pus, I grow my own. Harvested some from my leg this morning before work

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When I moved from the Midwest to Southern California, people didn't know what I meant when I asked for "skim milk". I eventually learned to ask for "nonfat", and everything was fine.

Several years later, I was in a hotel in Minneapolis, and I asked for nonfat milk. The waitress asked "do you mean skim milk?"

So as far as I'm concerned, it's a geographical thing, but to me, skim has never mean 2%.

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[Dagny 0]

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Dude, just order it with soy instead. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back to milk of any type again. That stuff is just liquid meat. Also, after I read about the allowed pus count in milk by the USDA (yes, you read that right - pus), I won't ever drink it again. Basically, CA has one of the tightest regulation for the amount of pus allowed in milk, and there's pus in all milk. It equates to a thimblefull in a normal quart.

If you saw me pour a thimblefull of pus in your milk, would you drink it ?

Could you have picked a more biased website to reference? *shaking head*

So what if cows milk contains PUS (which, by the way, is an accumulation of white blood cells) from cows that have mastitis (inflammation of the teat). A white blood cell isn't going to hurt you. Now, the bacteria and antibiotics and growth hormone that may or may not be present in your milk is a different story. The FDA has rigorous guidelines on milk acquisition, distribution, and allowable contaminants. Plus, it's pasteurized rendering the bad stuff harmless. So, if milk is your thing, drink it. Stress if you're lactose intolerant...but if you aren't, then worry about the million other bacteria and contaminants that exist out there.

As for soy milk, it has its benefits. BUT, the isoflavones are still being researched. And there is potential that too much of anything (soy protein, isoflavones) can be a bad thing. Isoflavones (phytoestrogens) may actually increase the risk of breast cancer in women. And the isoflavone genistein may cause male breast tissue to grow excessively (think man boobs!). And, it may have a deleterious effect on the thyroid.

There are a lot of options out there...Cow's milk, organic cow's milk, goat milk, soy milk, hell...even breast milk. I daresay that a minute and inconsequential amount of pus is the least of your concerns. Find what you like and enjoy it and stop sweating the small stuff.

As for starbucks....blech. I consider it a necessary evil. But I buy MY coffee beans elsewhere and prefer to make my own coffee every morning. Less bitter, less pretentious, and a lot less expensive.

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