skybytch 273 #1 July 22, 2004 Having a personal issue with someone else who posts here? Please do yourself, the other person involved, the people who are friends with one or both of you, and all of the rest of us a favor and keep it out of the forums. If even one other person who posts here knows who you are talking about then it doesn't belong here. There are other forums out there that the other person involved doesn't read or post to. You have friends that you can email or IM. Use them to get advice on your current situation. Please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 July 22, 2004 What if I'm insanely inlove with the poster RedAssSkyChick, is it ok to talk about that?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #3 July 22, 2004 There's this greenie with this awsome rack(tm) that I secretly lust after. Is it ok to post about that? It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #4 July 22, 2004 but… but… I said I wouldn’t tell which two posters I saw getting/giving head in the Perris car park… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 July 22, 2004 Hey now, I've never been to Perris... But that would be an interesting and embarressing thread for someone, I'm sure.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTOXX 0 #6 July 22, 2004 Is it OK to form a line in order to lust after the greenie with the awesome rack(tm)? ------- D.T. Holder SIMstudy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #7 July 22, 2004 As long as the line is kept in an orderly fashion, I guess. It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #8 July 22, 2004 QuoteAs long as the line is kept in an orderly fashion, I guess. Gentleman, Q-up...... ~R+R~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 July 22, 2004 SHOTGUN!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #10 July 22, 2004 OK so if we know of a Rapist on the DZ who is a DZ.commer....We should not post it? Quote http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=643434#643434 short story: Was going to a dz I wasn't familiar with to jump. Asked around dz.com about said dz:who jumped there etc and if they'd like to hang out while I was there. Since this person was well known and seemed to have a good rep on dz.com I took him up on an offer to sleep on his couch. We had a drink with dinner but he kept trying to get me to drink more and more..but I'd just pour it down the sink when I went to the bathroom. Well, things were ok until I decided I needed to shower and go to sleep. He said he'd take the couch and I could have his master bedroom w/the shower. While I was in the shower,he came in, forced himself into the shower and intimidated me....He was alot bigger than I was and I didn't know what to do. You're smart enough to fill in the rest..... I never told anyone or went for help and I don't go to that dz anymore. Never bothered to make it known on dz.com; since everyone knows him, they might think me a liar or call it personal attacks. --- But to post about a stalker is bad. Or to post about a crazy ex is bad. Thats some fucked up shit."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #11 July 22, 2004 shit, i just called billvon a stalker in another thread, is that gonna get deleted? Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #12 July 22, 2004 Ron, it's common sense.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #13 July 22, 2004 QuoteBut to post about a stalker is bad. Or to post about a crazy ex is bad. Crazy ex's = fairly normal. No one needs to be 'warned' about a crazy ex. Rapists = not normal. Should be brought up that you can't trust people. And I doubt many people even know who they were talking about.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #14 July 22, 2004 Basically, if you're trying to get a rise out of a dz.commer, don't use these forums to do so. There are many other much more effective means.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #15 July 22, 2004 Y'know what? I don't need this. High school was over years ago. Sometimes life ain't fair. Deal with it. Post whatever you want about whoever you want. I'm not going to be put in the middle of this shit any longer. Thanks for your part in making yet another bad day that much worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 July 22, 2004 Quote Crazy ex's = fairly normal. No one needs to be 'warned' about a crazy ex. HAH! Tell that to Philly Kev.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #18 July 22, 2004 QuoteRon, it's common sense. So is not getting shit faced and going home with someone you don't know..... Fact is...Many people use this website as a supplement and in some cases a SUBSTITUTE to a real life friends network. It is a valuable tool to get opinions from across the world (How do people in Spain think about date rape or stalking? We can find out here), and do it with some level of anonymity. Only a handful of people know who tried to rape who, or who HeatherB was talking about in the now deleted "Is it normal of an Ex to ask for Christmas gifts back" thread..... For some this is the only place they can go for comfort and guidance....In ALL areas of their lives, not just skydiving. I myself have asked a question that I needed a womens opinion for someone totally not connected to the situation. I can understand the powers that be not wanting a "slam fest". Or even names being used for legal or privacy issues... But to delete questions that could have dire consequences (Such as being stalked, or possibly raped) is foolish. Ignoring a problem is not going to make it go away... HH told me that there are 8 cases of stalking going on with DZ.commers....What good is deleting a thread that migh help some, or in an extreme case maybe save a life?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #19 July 22, 2004 #1 This is not your forum. If you don't like it, too bad. Sure, make suggestions all you want. There is no "free speech" here. This is Sangiro's party. #2 I sincerely hope that you aren't using this forum as a means for preventing such "dire" consequences that aren't related to skydiving. Even if someone here is an expert in the field you need, they aren't 5 feet from you. If something in someone life is going to have such "dire" circumstances, I sincerely hope they do NOT use this forum to prevent that. That's stupid. #3 Ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away, but this is not the dz.commer's or Sangiro's problem. That's what you are forgetting. Ron, you just don't seem to get it.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #20 July 22, 2004 Quotethere are 8 cases of stalking going on with DZ.commers.. I handled it delicately so that they understand that we are still friends, but they must face their unfulfilled love. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #21 July 22, 2004 Ya know what... Fuck this... I say out the bastards. Stalking? Rape? WTF man, don't let the bastards hide behind a fucking computer screen. If you know for sure who they are OUT THEM! Don't just warn us there are people who are doing these things. Tell us WHO THEY ARE! I'm pretty sure once the names and locations are put up on the forums. They'll stop what their doing one way or another. Damn I'm pissed the fuck off.. going for coffee and a smoke.. this post will probably be deleted. One more thing, how much responsibility does HH carry if someone is outa on the forums? I always understood the owners of an open forum carry none.. I used to admin an IRC network. The FBI once caught a child rapist on that network. None of us admins were help liable because he used our network to find victims. Was because we only supplied the network to people. We don't nor could we control what was said or did in the chat rooms. I would assume the forums here are the same. If so out these bastards, they can't sue DZ.com because the owners and operators have no control on what is said here. Kinda like someone posting that jumping a 35sf canopy at jump nunmber 12 is a good idea. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #22 July 22, 2004 Quote#1 This is not your forum. If you don't like it, too bad. Sure, make suggestions all you want. There is no "free speech" here. This is Sangiro's party. True. And he has the right to do as he pleases. Quote#2 I sincerely hope that you aren't using this forum as a means for preventing such "dire" consequences that aren't related to skydiving. Even if someone here is an expert in the field you need, they aren't 5 feet from you. If something in someone life is going to have such "dire" circumstances, I sincerely hope they do NOT use this forum to prevent that. That's stupid. Like it or not people do it all the time. Browse the Womens forum for hundreds of "What do I do?" threads. Ignoring that fact is foolish. Quote#3 Ignoring a problem isn't going to make it go away, but this is not the dz.commer's or Sangiro's problem. That's what you are forgetting. True again...2 out of 3 ain't bad. QuoteRon, you just don't seem to get it. See #2 and realize YOU don't get it....Good idea or not...it happens."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeatherB 0 #23 July 22, 2004 You crack me up, Bill. And I can understand why Sangiro doesn't want the "he said/she said" stuff on the forums...we don't want a slander-fest. I'll be quiet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #24 July 22, 2004 Quotee it or not people do it all the time. Browse the Womens forum for hundreds of "What do I do?" threads. Ignoring that fact is foolish. I hope that nobody ever says, "Hey, I'm turning purple, my eyelids are swollen shut, I've got puss coming out of my ears, I'm just wondering if anyone else has ever had this problem." Using the forums as a sounding board sometimes helps, but if it's serious enough to have dire consequences, this is a very silly place to come for advice. Even if there was a doctor online, they can't see you or your situation, so what good does that do? Nothing. If there is an immediate situation you need help with, seek that professional help.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #25 July 22, 2004 Quote #2 I sincerely hope that you aren't using this forum as a means for preventing such "dire" consequences that aren't related to skydiving. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like it or not people do it all the time. Browse the Womens forum for hundreds of "What do I do?" threads. Ignoring that fact is foolish. I think what she is saying is that if there's really something that serious going on, then call the police, get a restraining order, file charges, whatever. Using the forums to try to humiliate them into submission isn't going to work. EDIT: Damn I'm slow today. Nevermind me... I'm going to go back to reviewing the footage I have from the camera I secretly installed in Vallerina's bedroom....it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
