Muenkel 0 #26 August 5, 2004 My parents are real proper people. They are all about manners and dressing appropriately. Then their 3 15 year old grandsons show up at the house with their oversized jeans hanging half way down their ass, revealing their boxers. Sometimes I think I'm going to have to perform CPR. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #27 August 5, 2004 QuoteI had SUCH a vision when I read that line, JP! Pssst, got something to loan me for Rantoul? It would be really funny, you know as a joke to show up and surpr........... Uh, what do ya mean this isn't a PM?! (looking around nervously)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #28 August 5, 2004 See ya soon, JP! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dagny 0 #29 August 5, 2004 QuoteAgreed JP. Teeny tiny mini skirts, exposed midriffs, etc. are difficult for even the best bods to pull-off. Why chance letting too much hang out? First let me say that I agree to an extent. I'm just as guilty as anyone of looking at a girl wearing something not "appropriate" for her size and thinking to myself, "oooh, honey, not the best choice of wardrobe." However... One of the biggest problems in fat girl clothes is a lack of trendiness. As soon as you move past the standard sizes, the clothes get ugly. The cutest clothes are always the missy sizes, the woman sizes are more conservative and a lot less cute, and then there is the plus size area. Some of the least attractive clothing out there, IMO. You say that it is hard for the best bodies to pull off tiny clothing, so I have to ask...why? Why is it so wrong to let your body show if you don't have a cover model body? It's not hard to wear clothing that you like, it's hard to please the masses. And the truth is, if you're fat, the masses are offended by your size whether you cover your hips and round belly with an XL tshirt or a revealing tank top. We're so judgemental about everyone else and all the while we're harboring these insecurities about ourselves. It's sad that our body image is so contorted that we take issue with those who don't feel the same insecure need to hide what doesn't meet societal standards. I know it's more flattering to wear clothing that accentuates the curves and roundness of a larger-than-size-2 body. I dress myself to flatter the imperfections of my body and highlight the more positive aspects. But, that's my choice and not everyone looks at themself in a mirror and says, "I can't wear this, my ass is too big." Honestly, I kind of admire people who can be themselves and don't let themselves be ashamed of their bodies because their bodies aren't perfect. And, I fully believe that if there were trendier, cuter clothes in larger sizes that kept up with the current trends of the smaller sizes out there, then there would be fewer visible fat rolls. Oh, and one other thing...I was at the mall on monday and I saw more midriffs than I could count. Most of the girls had the "right" kind of body to wear the outfits they had on, but doesn't anyone else get tired of seeing so much skin whether the person is fat or thin? And VSG...I responded to your post because I have seen a picture or two of you. And I have read your posts about your body. Maybe you're just humble, but I think you have an amazing figure and, TBH, I am jealous. I would like to know once in my life what it is like to be so petite. But, my body isn't petite and it just won't be. So I accept what I'm working with and it makes me frustrated to see your posts when you seem to have difficulty seeing the beauty that is your body. It makes me mad that as a society we set our standards so high that no one meets them. Anyway, that's my rant for the night....Take me, I am the drug; take me, I am hallucinogenic. -Salvador Dali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #30 August 5, 2004 Dagny, thank you so much for taking the time to write, and I promise to respond tomorrow when I get back online. Also, I was hesitant about posting to JP's thread at all because I didn't want to get into body image and perception discussions or to seem judgmental of others' figures as a "petite" woman. That was why I wrote about men, more so than the women. You have taken the time to write such a well-written and intelligent post that I will definitely respond. I just have to go right now because I am late for a dinner date. Sorry, Dagny...until tomorrow, ok? Thanks again for the post. Edited for typo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #31 August 5, 2004 It's about self-respect. I think you're missing an underlying problem. I think these people are in denial. I could give a crap less if someone is fat, but you won't see me wearing "Gold's Gym" tank tops around everywhere, I don't have the "cut' for it. The slovenly way many people dress is an indicator of their self worth (what's really important) and the regard with which they hold the general public. Have you ever noticed that many of the ultra fashion conscious sheep (not individuals who define their own fashion) are also some of the most rude and self-absorbed people on the planet? I have seen (heck I've dated*) women who by Hollywood standards might be considered "plus" sizes, or padded. Comfortable with themselves they also could rock appropriate fashions to make them selves alluring and sexy as hell. QuoteMost of the girls had the "right" kind of body to wear the outfits they had on, but doesn't anyone else get tired of seeing so much skin whether the person is fat or thin? The *hint* of skin is sexy. Blatently advertizing is kind of whore-ish. A long black evening gown has always made a woman look far more sexy than a mini-skirt and tube top. It's the imagination that such an outfit stirs that makes it truly sexy. *Before any of you guys can beat me up, the above did not include any WHALES!)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #32 August 5, 2004 QuoteAlso, I was hesitant about posting to JP's thread at all because I didn't want to get into body image and perception discussions or to seem judgmental of others' figures as a "petite" woman. That was why I wrote about men, more so than the women. Good idea.. I could hang you upside down by your feet for a while..( once your petite little ankle heals) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #33 August 5, 2004 QuotePssst, got something to loan me for Rantoul? It would be really funny, you know as a joke to show up and surpr........... Thanks for the visual JP, you just made me puke and I dont think I'll need that again when I get to Rantoul..... -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Evelyn 0 #34 August 5, 2004 Okay, I'm only gonna post to this cuz I work out a lot (2 - 3 hrs. a day), but my hubby could care less about working out. And it really sometimes pisses me off that I am in shape and he isn't and that he doesn't care. Okay, got my rant in. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #35 August 5, 2004 So, when did it happen?.... You've ALL turned into your parents!! (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites j3zz 0 #36 August 5, 2004 How ironic, Only this morning I saw a sight as described it was only for a slit second but required a private verbal release of disgust YUK!!,(don't worry no-one heard it) It was just some passerby I saw as I rode to work on my motorbike. Now this girl was not an elephant but and with a decent style of clothing may even have looked rather nice. It all in the wrapping so wear something appropriate girls OH and keep you underwear in in your clothes,MY pet hate is women you have their nicker sticking out, keep in covered!!!! "Now I know why the birds fly" Hinton Skydivers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #37 August 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt's about self-respect. NO it's not, it's about YOU. If someone feels comfortable in their selected clothing Who the hell are you to decide it's inapproriate and they have less self respect for wearing it. QuoteI think you're missing an underlying problem. I think these people are in denial. I could give a crap less if someone is fat, Yes you do or you would not have bothered wasting bandwidth to post this dribble QuoteThe slovenly way many people dress is an indicator of their self worth (what's really important) and the regard with which they hold the general public. Alternatively they may put more importance on things that are not "window dressing" And with regard to the "general public" Who gives a flying Fox what the "general public" thinks (not me that's for sure)You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #38 August 5, 2004 < the rat sighs and slowly shakes his head> I'll guess I'll say it one more time < gets bull horn> JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT IN YOUR SIZE DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD WEAR IT!!!!!!!Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #39 August 5, 2004 The weight loss got you proselytizing, JP? I'm proud of your discipline and glad for your health and fitness. Just ignore the people that see something different in the mirror than you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #40 August 5, 2004 You do not have the right NOT to be offended.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #41 August 5, 2004 My disclaimer is that I don't think dressing like Brittney Spears or any other scantily clad individual is appropriate to begin with regardless of body type, but that's just my opinion and certainly not one I impose on the rest of the world. I thought about not responding to this one, but it was just too callous a post to let go. Honestly, I'm extremely jealous of people of any body type that have the confidence in themselves to wear those 1/2 shirts or walk around with their man boobs and beer gut showing. If it makes them happy, if they are comfortable in their own skin, that is important and they are fortunate to feel that way. My husband and I were out, and saw someone just like you described walking by, of course he commented on how repulsive she looked. Now I'm standing there next to him, weighing probably 20 lbs more than this girl that he thinks looks gross. So exactly how am I supposed to believe he finds my body attractive if he finds someone who looks better than me repulsive? I already have crappy self image, so this just made it plummet to hell. I wish I had her confidence, she was clearly comfortable with herself and the guy at her side obviously liked her very much, so who cares if anyone else isn't pleased? If you think bodies should be covered if they don't meet your ideal, does that mean that people with bad teeth or bad skin or big noses or any other facial feature you feel isn't up to par should walk around with a bag over their head? Or people you don't agree with should hit the mute button if you are around? That just isn't fair. The world isn't full of perfect bodies, cope with it, respect other people's right to be happy with who they are regardless of appearance. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyyhi 0 #42 August 5, 2004 Dagny. . .what a well thought out post. As a former plus sized individual I will say that plus sized fashion is getting better. This is mainly due to the fact that people are getting larger. Its a fact. Because the demand is there, cuter things available for those requiring larger sizes. This was great when I wore a size 26/28. Now I wear a 10. I don't have a models body because I spent many years being large and the skin just doesn't have the elasticity it once did. No amount of working out is going to fix that. I do like the latest fashions and can pull off some daring stuff that I would not have done even a year ago. I think its all about choices. A friend once said that they thought it sexy when a woman was not afraid to show off her imperfections (i.e.; belly sticking out below a midriff and low rise pants). He thought the extra curves made them sexy. So really, I think it is just a matter of perception. What is offensive to some, others find sexy. . .I am certainly no judge of that. All I can do is make what I deem appropriate choices for myself. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites feuergnom 29 #43 August 5, 2004 Quote"Spandex, it's a privlege not a right." so sad, so true.....The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cderham 0 #44 August 5, 2004 All I have to say is wear something YOUR size. I hate it when I see a girl try to squeeze herself into the next smaller size then have the tire look under her full length t-shirt. I am not the picture of mens fitness and will never be. I gave that up after college. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites watchdog2 0 #45 August 5, 2004 girls with bellies are hot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #46 August 5, 2004 Quote"Spandex, it's a privlege not a right." Hackers Another movie quote comes to mind: "Fat guy in a little coat." Ha ha ha!~Tommy BoyPaint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aprilcat 0 #47 August 5, 2004 I don't think that is funny at all. Though I would not wear this if I were that size, I applaude this girl for selecting what she considers sexy. It obviously makes her feel GOOD to wear that thong and believe me, there are some 'Chubby Chasers' out there that would totally adore her. (Don't we all need love?) A friend took myself and my best girlfriend to a BBW (Big Beautiful Women) party and WE were the 'ugly girls'. They were all dressed to party and they were HAPPY. I wouldn't make fun of them for a MINUTE. I think it would benefit a lot of people to step outside their 'comfort zone' and go someplace where YOU are the 'ugly girl/guy'. Oh and for the record, I have lived as a petite female before. I think I was 9.~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites feuergnom 29 #48 August 5, 2004 QuoteI don't think that is funny at all. this was not meant to be funny Quotethere are some 'Chubby Chasers' out there that would totally adore her. i bet there are - everybody to his own likes this is not all about "the ideal body" or being born with a body that fits into the standard definition of beautyfull. but to have way more than "a few pounds to much" around the waist is mistreating the structure you were born with The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #49 August 5, 2004 I often see larger women as stunningly attractive. It's not just about size. Except, with a very few exceptions. There's one woman I have in my mind who's well over 250 lbs, she wears very loose halter tops, often with no bra. She seems to bend over a lot, you can't help seeing everything through the extra-large neck. It's not what I want to see, partly because she doesn't fit my tastes, but mostly because it simply is not appropriate. More often though, I'm humored by whats going on, because I do work with tandem videos. For reasons I don't really understand, many of the tandems at Chicagoland choose not to wear jump suits, and many jump in short baggy shirts. This usually isn't a problem until deployment time comes, where its standard practice for the editor to put the video in slow-motion. A larger person in a loose halter top going through deployment is kinda funny, but not nearly as funny as watching the reaction on that same persons face when they see the video for the first time. This goes for both men and women. In a way, showing someone what they REALLY look like is kinda like a public service... lol _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #50 August 5, 2004 Just a thought: Who made the rule that seeing someone's fat is unattractive? The reason Americans do not want to see an obese woman in a tiny tube top is b/c our standards here set by the vicious circle of us and the media say that fat is unattractive. In other societies, however, an obese woman in a tiny tube top might be sexy as all hell So really, I don't have much of a problem with however anyone of any size, color or race wants to dress or express themselves b/c there really is no law that says that is not sexy or attractive; just different people's opinions. Personally, I think women with XL size chests who wear tiny, low-cut shirts are unattractive (ie. Pam Anderson) but what do I know since a lot of men flock to see that. I love my B-sized na-na's b/c I can wear whatever shirt I want and not look slutty, but again, it's all just a matter of opinion. 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Dagny 0 #29 August 5, 2004 QuoteAgreed JP. Teeny tiny mini skirts, exposed midriffs, etc. are difficult for even the best bods to pull-off. Why chance letting too much hang out? First let me say that I agree to an extent. I'm just as guilty as anyone of looking at a girl wearing something not "appropriate" for her size and thinking to myself, "oooh, honey, not the best choice of wardrobe." However... One of the biggest problems in fat girl clothes is a lack of trendiness. As soon as you move past the standard sizes, the clothes get ugly. The cutest clothes are always the missy sizes, the woman sizes are more conservative and a lot less cute, and then there is the plus size area. Some of the least attractive clothing out there, IMO. You say that it is hard for the best bodies to pull off tiny clothing, so I have to ask...why? Why is it so wrong to let your body show if you don't have a cover model body? It's not hard to wear clothing that you like, it's hard to please the masses. And the truth is, if you're fat, the masses are offended by your size whether you cover your hips and round belly with an XL tshirt or a revealing tank top. We're so judgemental about everyone else and all the while we're harboring these insecurities about ourselves. It's sad that our body image is so contorted that we take issue with those who don't feel the same insecure need to hide what doesn't meet societal standards. I know it's more flattering to wear clothing that accentuates the curves and roundness of a larger-than-size-2 body. I dress myself to flatter the imperfections of my body and highlight the more positive aspects. But, that's my choice and not everyone looks at themself in a mirror and says, "I can't wear this, my ass is too big." Honestly, I kind of admire people who can be themselves and don't let themselves be ashamed of their bodies because their bodies aren't perfect. And, I fully believe that if there were trendier, cuter clothes in larger sizes that kept up with the current trends of the smaller sizes out there, then there would be fewer visible fat rolls. Oh, and one other thing...I was at the mall on monday and I saw more midriffs than I could count. Most of the girls had the "right" kind of body to wear the outfits they had on, but doesn't anyone else get tired of seeing so much skin whether the person is fat or thin? And VSG...I responded to your post because I have seen a picture or two of you. And I have read your posts about your body. Maybe you're just humble, but I think you have an amazing figure and, TBH, I am jealous. I would like to know once in my life what it is like to be so petite. But, my body isn't petite and it just won't be. So I accept what I'm working with and it makes me frustrated to see your posts when you seem to have difficulty seeing the beauty that is your body. It makes me mad that as a society we set our standards so high that no one meets them. Anyway, that's my rant for the night....Take me, I am the drug; take me, I am hallucinogenic. -Salvador Dali Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #30 August 5, 2004 Dagny, thank you so much for taking the time to write, and I promise to respond tomorrow when I get back online. Also, I was hesitant about posting to JP's thread at all because I didn't want to get into body image and perception discussions or to seem judgmental of others' figures as a "petite" woman. That was why I wrote about men, more so than the women. You have taken the time to write such a well-written and intelligent post that I will definitely respond. I just have to go right now because I am late for a dinner date. Sorry, Dagny...until tomorrow, ok? Thanks again for the post. Edited for typo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #31 August 5, 2004 It's about self-respect. I think you're missing an underlying problem. I think these people are in denial. I could give a crap less if someone is fat, but you won't see me wearing "Gold's Gym" tank tops around everywhere, I don't have the "cut' for it. The slovenly way many people dress is an indicator of their self worth (what's really important) and the regard with which they hold the general public. Have you ever noticed that many of the ultra fashion conscious sheep (not individuals who define their own fashion) are also some of the most rude and self-absorbed people on the planet? I have seen (heck I've dated*) women who by Hollywood standards might be considered "plus" sizes, or padded. Comfortable with themselves they also could rock appropriate fashions to make them selves alluring and sexy as hell. QuoteMost of the girls had the "right" kind of body to wear the outfits they had on, but doesn't anyone else get tired of seeing so much skin whether the person is fat or thin? The *hint* of skin is sexy. Blatently advertizing is kind of whore-ish. A long black evening gown has always made a woman look far more sexy than a mini-skirt and tube top. It's the imagination that such an outfit stirs that makes it truly sexy. *Before any of you guys can beat me up, the above did not include any WHALES!)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 August 5, 2004 QuoteAlso, I was hesitant about posting to JP's thread at all because I didn't want to get into body image and perception discussions or to seem judgmental of others' figures as a "petite" woman. That was why I wrote about men, more so than the women. Good idea.. I could hang you upside down by your feet for a while..( once your petite little ankle heals) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #33 August 5, 2004 QuotePssst, got something to loan me for Rantoul? It would be really funny, you know as a joke to show up and surpr........... Thanks for the visual JP, you just made me puke and I dont think I'll need that again when I get to Rantoul..... -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyn 0 #34 August 5, 2004 Okay, I'm only gonna post to this cuz I work out a lot (2 - 3 hrs. a day), but my hubby could care less about working out. And it really sometimes pisses me off that I am in shape and he isn't and that he doesn't care. Okay, got my rant in. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #35 August 5, 2004 So, when did it happen?.... You've ALL turned into your parents!! (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j3zz 0 #36 August 5, 2004 How ironic, Only this morning I saw a sight as described it was only for a slit second but required a private verbal release of disgust YUK!!,(don't worry no-one heard it) It was just some passerby I saw as I rode to work on my motorbike. Now this girl was not an elephant but and with a decent style of clothing may even have looked rather nice. It all in the wrapping so wear something appropriate girls OH and keep you underwear in in your clothes,MY pet hate is women you have their nicker sticking out, keep in covered!!!! "Now I know why the birds fly" Hinton Skydivers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #37 August 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt's about self-respect. NO it's not, it's about YOU. If someone feels comfortable in their selected clothing Who the hell are you to decide it's inapproriate and they have less self respect for wearing it. QuoteI think you're missing an underlying problem. I think these people are in denial. I could give a crap less if someone is fat, Yes you do or you would not have bothered wasting bandwidth to post this dribble QuoteThe slovenly way many people dress is an indicator of their self worth (what's really important) and the regard with which they hold the general public. Alternatively they may put more importance on things that are not "window dressing" And with regard to the "general public" Who gives a flying Fox what the "general public" thinks (not me that's for sure)You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #38 August 5, 2004 < the rat sighs and slowly shakes his head> I'll guess I'll say it one more time < gets bull horn> JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT IN YOUR SIZE DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD WEAR IT!!!!!!!Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Deuce 1 #39 August 5, 2004 The weight loss got you proselytizing, JP? I'm proud of your discipline and glad for your health and fitness. Just ignore the people that see something different in the mirror than you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #40 August 5, 2004 You do not have the right NOT to be offended.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #41 August 5, 2004 My disclaimer is that I don't think dressing like Brittney Spears or any other scantily clad individual is appropriate to begin with regardless of body type, but that's just my opinion and certainly not one I impose on the rest of the world. I thought about not responding to this one, but it was just too callous a post to let go. Honestly, I'm extremely jealous of people of any body type that have the confidence in themselves to wear those 1/2 shirts or walk around with their man boobs and beer gut showing. If it makes them happy, if they are comfortable in their own skin, that is important and they are fortunate to feel that way. My husband and I were out, and saw someone just like you described walking by, of course he commented on how repulsive she looked. Now I'm standing there next to him, weighing probably 20 lbs more than this girl that he thinks looks gross. So exactly how am I supposed to believe he finds my body attractive if he finds someone who looks better than me repulsive? I already have crappy self image, so this just made it plummet to hell. I wish I had her confidence, she was clearly comfortable with herself and the guy at her side obviously liked her very much, so who cares if anyone else isn't pleased? If you think bodies should be covered if they don't meet your ideal, does that mean that people with bad teeth or bad skin or big noses or any other facial feature you feel isn't up to par should walk around with a bag over their head? Or people you don't agree with should hit the mute button if you are around? That just isn't fair. The world isn't full of perfect bodies, cope with it, respect other people's right to be happy with who they are regardless of appearance. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyyhi 0 #42 August 5, 2004 Dagny. . .what a well thought out post. As a former plus sized individual I will say that plus sized fashion is getting better. This is mainly due to the fact that people are getting larger. Its a fact. Because the demand is there, cuter things available for those requiring larger sizes. This was great when I wore a size 26/28. Now I wear a 10. I don't have a models body because I spent many years being large and the skin just doesn't have the elasticity it once did. No amount of working out is going to fix that. I do like the latest fashions and can pull off some daring stuff that I would not have done even a year ago. I think its all about choices. A friend once said that they thought it sexy when a woman was not afraid to show off her imperfections (i.e.; belly sticking out below a midriff and low rise pants). He thought the extra curves made them sexy. So really, I think it is just a matter of perception. What is offensive to some, others find sexy. . .I am certainly no judge of that. All I can do is make what I deem appropriate choices for myself. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites feuergnom 29 #43 August 5, 2004 Quote"Spandex, it's a privlege not a right." so sad, so true.....The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cderham 0 #44 August 5, 2004 All I have to say is wear something YOUR size. I hate it when I see a girl try to squeeze herself into the next smaller size then have the tire look under her full length t-shirt. I am not the picture of mens fitness and will never be. I gave that up after college. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites watchdog2 0 #45 August 5, 2004 girls with bellies are hot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #46 August 5, 2004 Quote"Spandex, it's a privlege not a right." Hackers Another movie quote comes to mind: "Fat guy in a little coat." Ha ha ha!~Tommy BoyPaint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aprilcat 0 #47 August 5, 2004 I don't think that is funny at all. Though I would not wear this if I were that size, I applaude this girl for selecting what she considers sexy. It obviously makes her feel GOOD to wear that thong and believe me, there are some 'Chubby Chasers' out there that would totally adore her. (Don't we all need love?) A friend took myself and my best girlfriend to a BBW (Big Beautiful Women) party and WE were the 'ugly girls'. They were all dressed to party and they were HAPPY. I wouldn't make fun of them for a MINUTE. I think it would benefit a lot of people to step outside their 'comfort zone' and go someplace where YOU are the 'ugly girl/guy'. Oh and for the record, I have lived as a petite female before. I think I was 9.~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites feuergnom 29 #48 August 5, 2004 QuoteI don't think that is funny at all. this was not meant to be funny Quotethere are some 'Chubby Chasers' out there that would totally adore her. i bet there are - everybody to his own likes this is not all about "the ideal body" or being born with a body that fits into the standard definition of beautyfull. but to have way more than "a few pounds to much" around the waist is mistreating the structure you were born with The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #49 August 5, 2004 I often see larger women as stunningly attractive. It's not just about size. Except, with a very few exceptions. There's one woman I have in my mind who's well over 250 lbs, she wears very loose halter tops, often with no bra. She seems to bend over a lot, you can't help seeing everything through the extra-large neck. It's not what I want to see, partly because she doesn't fit my tastes, but mostly because it simply is not appropriate. More often though, I'm humored by whats going on, because I do work with tandem videos. For reasons I don't really understand, many of the tandems at Chicagoland choose not to wear jump suits, and many jump in short baggy shirts. This usually isn't a problem until deployment time comes, where its standard practice for the editor to put the video in slow-motion. A larger person in a loose halter top going through deployment is kinda funny, but not nearly as funny as watching the reaction on that same persons face when they see the video for the first time. This goes for both men and women. In a way, showing someone what they REALLY look like is kinda like a public service... lol _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PLFXpert 0 #50 August 5, 2004 Just a thought: Who made the rule that seeing someone's fat is unattractive? The reason Americans do not want to see an obese woman in a tiny tube top is b/c our standards here set by the vicious circle of us and the media say that fat is unattractive. In other societies, however, an obese woman in a tiny tube top might be sexy as all hell So really, I don't have much of a problem with however anyone of any size, color or race wants to dress or express themselves b/c there really is no law that says that is not sexy or attractive; just different people's opinions. Personally, I think women with XL size chests who wear tiny, low-cut shirts are unattractive (ie. Pam Anderson) but what do I know since a lot of men flock to see that. I love my B-sized na-na's b/c I can wear whatever shirt I want and not look slutty, but again, it's all just a matter of opinion. 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towerrat 0 #38 August 5, 2004 < the rat sighs and slowly shakes his head> I'll guess I'll say it one more time < gets bull horn> JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE IT IN YOUR SIZE DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD WEAR IT!!!!!!!Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #39 August 5, 2004 The weight loss got you proselytizing, JP? I'm proud of your discipline and glad for your health and fitness. Just ignore the people that see something different in the mirror than you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #40 August 5, 2004 You do not have the right NOT to be offended.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #41 August 5, 2004 My disclaimer is that I don't think dressing like Brittney Spears or any other scantily clad individual is appropriate to begin with regardless of body type, but that's just my opinion and certainly not one I impose on the rest of the world. I thought about not responding to this one, but it was just too callous a post to let go. Honestly, I'm extremely jealous of people of any body type that have the confidence in themselves to wear those 1/2 shirts or walk around with their man boobs and beer gut showing. If it makes them happy, if they are comfortable in their own skin, that is important and they are fortunate to feel that way. My husband and I were out, and saw someone just like you described walking by, of course he commented on how repulsive she looked. Now I'm standing there next to him, weighing probably 20 lbs more than this girl that he thinks looks gross. So exactly how am I supposed to believe he finds my body attractive if he finds someone who looks better than me repulsive? I already have crappy self image, so this just made it plummet to hell. I wish I had her confidence, she was clearly comfortable with herself and the guy at her side obviously liked her very much, so who cares if anyone else isn't pleased? If you think bodies should be covered if they don't meet your ideal, does that mean that people with bad teeth or bad skin or big noses or any other facial feature you feel isn't up to par should walk around with a bag over their head? Or people you don't agree with should hit the mute button if you are around? That just isn't fair. The world isn't full of perfect bodies, cope with it, respect other people's right to be happy with who they are regardless of appearance. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #42 August 5, 2004 Dagny. . .what a well thought out post. As a former plus sized individual I will say that plus sized fashion is getting better. This is mainly due to the fact that people are getting larger. Its a fact. Because the demand is there, cuter things available for those requiring larger sizes. This was great when I wore a size 26/28. Now I wear a 10. I don't have a models body because I spent many years being large and the skin just doesn't have the elasticity it once did. No amount of working out is going to fix that. I do like the latest fashions and can pull off some daring stuff that I would not have done even a year ago. I think its all about choices. A friend once said that they thought it sexy when a woman was not afraid to show off her imperfections (i.e.; belly sticking out below a midriff and low rise pants). He thought the extra curves made them sexy. So really, I think it is just a matter of perception. What is offensive to some, others find sexy. . .I am certainly no judge of that. All I can do is make what I deem appropriate choices for myself. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #43 August 5, 2004 Quote"Spandex, it's a privlege not a right." so sad, so true.....The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cderham 0 #44 August 5, 2004 All I have to say is wear something YOUR size. I hate it when I see a girl try to squeeze herself into the next smaller size then have the tire look under her full length t-shirt. I am not the picture of mens fitness and will never be. I gave that up after college. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchdog2 0 #45 August 5, 2004 girls with bellies are hot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #46 August 5, 2004 Quote"Spandex, it's a privlege not a right." Hackers Another movie quote comes to mind: "Fat guy in a little coat." Ha ha ha!~Tommy BoyPaint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aprilcat 0 #47 August 5, 2004 I don't think that is funny at all. Though I would not wear this if I were that size, I applaude this girl for selecting what she considers sexy. It obviously makes her feel GOOD to wear that thong and believe me, there are some 'Chubby Chasers' out there that would totally adore her. (Don't we all need love?) A friend took myself and my best girlfriend to a BBW (Big Beautiful Women) party and WE were the 'ugly girls'. They were all dressed to party and they were HAPPY. I wouldn't make fun of them for a MINUTE. I think it would benefit a lot of people to step outside their 'comfort zone' and go someplace where YOU are the 'ugly girl/guy'. Oh and for the record, I have lived as a petite female before. I think I was 9.~~April Camelot II, the Electric Boogaloo! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #48 August 5, 2004 QuoteI don't think that is funny at all. this was not meant to be funny Quotethere are some 'Chubby Chasers' out there that would totally adore her. i bet there are - everybody to his own likes this is not all about "the ideal body" or being born with a body that fits into the standard definition of beautyfull. but to have way more than "a few pounds to much" around the waist is mistreating the structure you were born with The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #49 August 5, 2004 I often see larger women as stunningly attractive. It's not just about size. Except, with a very few exceptions. There's one woman I have in my mind who's well over 250 lbs, she wears very loose halter tops, often with no bra. She seems to bend over a lot, you can't help seeing everything through the extra-large neck. It's not what I want to see, partly because she doesn't fit my tastes, but mostly because it simply is not appropriate. More often though, I'm humored by whats going on, because I do work with tandem videos. For reasons I don't really understand, many of the tandems at Chicagoland choose not to wear jump suits, and many jump in short baggy shirts. This usually isn't a problem until deployment time comes, where its standard practice for the editor to put the video in slow-motion. A larger person in a loose halter top going through deployment is kinda funny, but not nearly as funny as watching the reaction on that same persons face when they see the video for the first time. This goes for both men and women. In a way, showing someone what they REALLY look like is kinda like a public service... lol _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #50 August 5, 2004 Just a thought: Who made the rule that seeing someone's fat is unattractive? The reason Americans do not want to see an obese woman in a tiny tube top is b/c our standards here set by the vicious circle of us and the media say that fat is unattractive. In other societies, however, an obese woman in a tiny tube top might be sexy as all hell So really, I don't have much of a problem with however anyone of any size, color or race wants to dress or express themselves b/c there really is no law that says that is not sexy or attractive; just different people's opinions. Personally, I think women with XL size chests who wear tiny, low-cut shirts are unattractive (ie. Pam Anderson) but what do I know since a lot of men flock to see that. I love my B-sized na-na's b/c I can wear whatever shirt I want and not look slutty, but again, it's all just a matter of opinion. To each their own (edited for spelling)Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
