councilman24 37 #26 August 6, 2004 "Who the hell is shaken the tent!?" Out of my mouth on Sunday morning after the skydivers closed up the bar and went skinny dipping to rinse all the beer off. Roll out, grab the rig (hmmm when did I pack this?), roll in the door of the twin beach, kinda put the rig on while moaning and yelling at the pilot to stop steering. Kinda rolling out the door. "Oh yeah! That's why I do this." And we lived? Every weekend occurance in the early eighties. That was kind of the end of the outlaw skydiver era. Or maybe not? I've seen people jumping drunk, on coke, magic mushrooms, high, etc. etc. I usually stayed off those loads.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #27 August 6, 2004 QuoteEVERYONE was hung over - myself included. Something magical happened though, the 12 way turned 12 points Probably coz they kept turning points till 1k! (just kiding folks.... it proably was 750 when 13 AADs fired )Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shananay 0 #28 August 6, 2004 QuoteIs this a trick question? I know, right????? Ummm let me think about this one.....ummm..Yes. Yes I do. Not to say it's right...not to say it's fun being hungover in a stinky plane...but I think for me it's just part of the sport. The parties are so..EPIC! You should have a clear head I agree, but I am guilty on more than, well lots of occasions of being hungover. I do however wait it out until I feel better than when I initially open my eyes and realize it's gonna be a rough one.. Use your judgement but don't judge others that don't use it quite as well. It's all a personal choice. Do it Again! P.M.S. #22 LaLa Gang #4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #29 August 6, 2004 No never. In fact I usually don't drink if I'm going to jump that week. Even if I think I may jump later in the month I'll abstain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #30 August 6, 2004 I hardly drink as it is, let alone get trashed the night before jumping. I think I'd rather save my drinking money and spend it on jumps. FuFu drinks can get expensive ( I don't drink ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #31 August 6, 2004 I will not jump if I am hungover. Being hungover is being impaired, and I prefer not to put myself and others in danger by jumping impaired. I wish everyone else felt the same way, but oh well... Now I do have to admit that I've had to drive with a serious hangover a few times, and that's just as bad... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertsa 0 #32 August 6, 2004 I jump hungover almost every sunday (after the heavy drinking on saturday night)... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #33 August 6, 2004 QuoteI will not jump if I am hungover. Being hungover is being impaired, and I prefer not to put myself and others in danger by jumping impaired. I wish everyone else felt the same way, but oh well... When you're tired or slightly ill your body can override that in a life threatening situation. Ever drive tired and have something happen that snaps you instantly awake? But when you're drunk or stoned your body can't override that. That's being impaired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #34 August 6, 2004 Drinking to drunkenness got boring a long time ago. Now when I go out for a drink it's 1-2 drinks, although I may have three beers in a long day. Not enough to have a hang over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #35 August 6, 2004 QuoteWhen you're tired or slightly ill your body can override that in a life threatening situation. I have jumped when I was sick before, and my body did not override that. I was most definitely impaired, and I won't do that again. I am certain that my judgment is impaired when I am hungover and that my reaction time to a problem would be slower than when I am clear-headed. I'll most likely be "ok", but I would just prefer not to jump in that condition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFKING 4 #36 August 6, 2004 QuoteNo never. In fact I usually don't drink if I'm going to jump that week. Even if I think I may jump later in the month I'll abstain. Don't let Clay fool you....he's quite a considerate fellow. Why, I've actually seen him sacrifice himself and drink gallons of other people's beer, in an effort to prevent THEM from being hungover the next morning. Truly a prince among men. Don"When in doubt I whip it out, I got me a rock-and-roll band. It's a free-for-all." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #37 August 6, 2004 Quote: Nope, that is Not the way it is. That is the way you want it to be. ---------------------------------------------------------- what are you fucking smoking crack? Don't you EVEN try to act like you know me or anything about me pal. The fact of the matter is that alot of skydivers drink, thus the beer rules. When you have a lot of people who drink, you are going to have some that jump after a night of partying.I'm sorry if it's not the way YOU want it to be, but it is. Face reality. If you don't want to see the real world, go hide in a box.I don't have time for jackass statements like yours.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chuckbrown 0 #38 August 6, 2004 It sounds like your drinking club has a skydiving problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PrairieDoug 0 #39 August 6, 2004 Personally, I would be happy with less of the "frat party on steroids" excess that I see around the sport. It's not my idea of fun (anymore) and it's potentially unsafe, However, I've always figured that I need to adjust my attitudes and actions to DZ reality, rather than vice versa. I don't have to patronize any DZ that I don't feel comfortable at, party all night, or jump with anyone that I consider unsafe. Since I'm not a DZO or S&TA, what other jumpers do is their own business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #40 August 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteDo You Drink the Evening Before Skydiving? Like a fuqn fish! and like a drunk Acme bi-otch, end up sleeping through first call. There. Fixed it for ya. -To answer the original poster's ??: Sometimes, but I am never hungover in the morning/next day/by the time I'm jumping. And I'd never sky-jump drunk; enough shit can happen up there when you have 100% of your reaction time.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #41 August 6, 2004 Wow, that seemed unnecessarily hostile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #42 August 6, 2004 Jaye "Huh??" Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve. Hmmm - things are looking up in this world.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #43 August 6, 2004 QuoteJaye "Huh??" Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve. Hmmm - things are looking up in this world. Yeah, he was looking up... Was that out loud?? ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites blitzkrieg 0 #44 August 7, 2004 Well first off, I have to say yes because I skydive almost everyday, and I'm not giving up drinking. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I know there's beer waiting on the ground... I probably would've just decided not to pull a long time ago. JK ~E Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LuvToFly 0 #45 August 7, 2004 QuoteQuote: Nope, that is Not the way it is. That is the way you want it to be. ---------------------------------------------------------- what are you fucking smoking crack? Don't you EVEN try to act like you know me or anything about me pal. The fact of the matter is that alot of skydivers drink, thus the beer rules. When you have a lot of people who drink, you are going to have some that jump after a night of partying.I'm sorry if it's not the way YOU want it to be, but it is. Face reality. If you don't want to see the real world, go hide in a box.I don't have time for jackass statements like yours. Slower reaction times from even smaller amounts of alcohol have been proven in many studies on the subject. I can't believe that any one actually wants to be in the sky next to someone whose reactions are not are sharp as they should be - The issue is one of intoxication - It's not about who wants what in a particular world, or not. TR, if all that was affected by someone's judgement being impaired through hangover was them putting themselves at jeopardy, that would be one thing. But the fact is impaired skydivers put everyone around them at risk - just like impaired drivers behind the wheel put everyone on the road at risk. It's almost stupid how some folks will keep a newbie off a bigway, but anxiously invite a still-drunk buddy to join in, believing that - THAT is safe?? I think it sucks that such a cool sport is so f***ed up with people getting so wasted till the wee hours before they jump. I don't want to be in the same sky with 'em - just like you don't want to be in the same car with 'em - they're messing with your longevity, and that really sucks when you are the sober one - No offense to either you or Greene intended. Just don't see how anyone can ever defend getting wasted before such a dangerous sport. In an FAA matter, you'd have your license taken away without waiting the prescribed amount of hours before "piloting" and or carrying a drunk passenger for that matter. The real falacy is folks in the skydiving community thinking that this applies any less to them and their sport as it does to aviation in general. Hey, we are all pilots under canopy. And pilots should not be impaired - Any statements that suggest skydiving and drinking are inseparable are false. And that means that one does not HAVE to expect that in this sport - My bottom line: Skydiving is so friggin awesome, and it's such an unbelievable privilege to be able to have the money, health, time, intelligence, and whatever to do it, that skydiving itself and the camaraderie at hand is all I need to be estatically happy about participating. I feel sorry for anyone that needs to enhance the experience further through any kind of substance. It's absolutely terrific sober - in the day, and in the night just thinking about the fact you have been given the privilege to skydive - I mean, that's enough, isn't it?? Hate to burst the bubble, but drinking is not about skydiving, and skydiving is not about drinking. The two are separate, regardless of beer lights. You can completely enjoy skydiving without ever having a drink, and if a person can't, all I can offer is sympathy. The beer light means soda or even water to many, and some have chimed in on this thread. Skydiving does not evoke a need to drink. A desire to drink is what really evokes a need to drink, and in that context any occasion serves as a ready platform. Evelyn, do not accept the notion that you must participate in one to have the other - "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #46 August 7, 2004 QuoteJust don't see how anyone can ever defend getting wasted before such a dangerous sport ---------------------------------------------------------- I never defended anyone getting wasted,nor did I even suggest that it's OK. I simply stated that in the real world, it happens. If you go back and look at my original post (pg 1) I said that it is neither safe nor right, it's just the way it is. : Nope, that is Not the way it is. That is the way you want it to be. ------------------------------------------------------------ What the hell is this supposed to mean? Somehow Green here insinuates that it is my fault people sometimes jump hungover. I'm just pointing out the truth. This guy had nothing constructive to add to this conversation. Nothing. *** Any statements that suggest skydiving and drinking are inseparable are false. And that means that one does not HAVE to expect that in this sport - ------------------------------------------------------------ I nor anyone else here suggested that drinking and skydiving are inseparable.But for god's sake man, WE HAVE BEER RULES!. What does that tell you? Drinking and driving are separable too, but people do it, and it has nothing to do with the way the vast majority of drivers want it. This has turned into a ridiculous conversation. I'm outPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greene 0 #47 August 8, 2004 You just posted one of the funniest responses I have ever read. Nope, do not know you, and you do not know me! funny Smoking Crack, a PAL? (skydivers drink?, no kidding!, give me another hint) Skydivers drink, the whole world drinks, even me at times, however, there is a right time to drink! And a right time to know when to quit. You will not skydive at our DZ when having a hangover or smelling like brewery on the aircraft! Sorry dude, I am not in a box! I am the box. :) Jackass?, you just might have made a personal attack. Greenies might nail you. When you have been around as long has some of old farts, please feel free to contact us again. Oh, wait, we will most likely be dead from old age . Not! skydiving when hungover or imparied by other substances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #48 August 8, 2004 Ok, ENOUGH argueing about who drinks and who doesn't! Those who choose to drink the night before they jump, and possibly be hung over, jump safely. And those who choose NOT to drink the night before, send me your share..... Honestly the days of the all nighters, and jumping hung over or alittle drunk the next day, are not near as they were years ago.... Drinking is what it is, and YOU can choose whom you jump with. Be safe. -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aero04 0 #49 August 8, 2004 It's funny. One of the big "rules" is no drinking and skydiving. But it is perfectly fine to get wasted Saturday night and jump sunday morning. Seems to me that rule should be extended to include people who jump after getting hammered the night before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greene 0 #50 August 8, 2004 Jump safely, how do we know? No one knows for sure, we are not bloodhounds, You smell like booze or whatever you will not get on our aircraft. 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chuckbrown 0 #38 August 6, 2004 It sounds like your drinking club has a skydiving problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrairieDoug 0 #39 August 6, 2004 Personally, I would be happy with less of the "frat party on steroids" excess that I see around the sport. It's not my idea of fun (anymore) and it's potentially unsafe, However, I've always figured that I need to adjust my attitudes and actions to DZ reality, rather than vice versa. I don't have to patronize any DZ that I don't feel comfortable at, party all night, or jump with anyone that I consider unsafe. Since I'm not a DZO or S&TA, what other jumpers do is their own business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #40 August 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteDo You Drink the Evening Before Skydiving? Like a fuqn fish! and like a drunk Acme bi-otch, end up sleeping through first call. There. Fixed it for ya. -To answer the original poster's ??: Sometimes, but I am never hungover in the morning/next day/by the time I'm jumping. And I'd never sky-jump drunk; enough shit can happen up there when you have 100% of your reaction time.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #41 August 6, 2004 Wow, that seemed unnecessarily hostile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #42 August 6, 2004 Jaye "Huh??" Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve. Hmmm - things are looking up in this world.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #43 August 6, 2004 QuoteJaye "Huh??" Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve. Hmmm - things are looking up in this world. Yeah, he was looking up... Was that out loud?? ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blitzkrieg 0 #44 August 7, 2004 Well first off, I have to say yes because I skydive almost everyday, and I'm not giving up drinking. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I know there's beer waiting on the ground... I probably would've just decided not to pull a long time ago. JK ~E Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvToFly 0 #45 August 7, 2004 QuoteQuote: Nope, that is Not the way it is. That is the way you want it to be. ---------------------------------------------------------- what are you fucking smoking crack? Don't you EVEN try to act like you know me or anything about me pal. The fact of the matter is that alot of skydivers drink, thus the beer rules. When you have a lot of people who drink, you are going to have some that jump after a night of partying.I'm sorry if it's not the way YOU want it to be, but it is. Face reality. If you don't want to see the real world, go hide in a box.I don't have time for jackass statements like yours. Slower reaction times from even smaller amounts of alcohol have been proven in many studies on the subject. I can't believe that any one actually wants to be in the sky next to someone whose reactions are not are sharp as they should be - The issue is one of intoxication - It's not about who wants what in a particular world, or not. TR, if all that was affected by someone's judgement being impaired through hangover was them putting themselves at jeopardy, that would be one thing. But the fact is impaired skydivers put everyone around them at risk - just like impaired drivers behind the wheel put everyone on the road at risk. It's almost stupid how some folks will keep a newbie off a bigway, but anxiously invite a still-drunk buddy to join in, believing that - THAT is safe?? I think it sucks that such a cool sport is so f***ed up with people getting so wasted till the wee hours before they jump. I don't want to be in the same sky with 'em - just like you don't want to be in the same car with 'em - they're messing with your longevity, and that really sucks when you are the sober one - No offense to either you or Greene intended. Just don't see how anyone can ever defend getting wasted before such a dangerous sport. In an FAA matter, you'd have your license taken away without waiting the prescribed amount of hours before "piloting" and or carrying a drunk passenger for that matter. The real falacy is folks in the skydiving community thinking that this applies any less to them and their sport as it does to aviation in general. Hey, we are all pilots under canopy. And pilots should not be impaired - Any statements that suggest skydiving and drinking are inseparable are false. And that means that one does not HAVE to expect that in this sport - My bottom line: Skydiving is so friggin awesome, and it's such an unbelievable privilege to be able to have the money, health, time, intelligence, and whatever to do it, that skydiving itself and the camaraderie at hand is all I need to be estatically happy about participating. I feel sorry for anyone that needs to enhance the experience further through any kind of substance. It's absolutely terrific sober - in the day, and in the night just thinking about the fact you have been given the privilege to skydive - I mean, that's enough, isn't it?? Hate to burst the bubble, but drinking is not about skydiving, and skydiving is not about drinking. The two are separate, regardless of beer lights. You can completely enjoy skydiving without ever having a drink, and if a person can't, all I can offer is sympathy. The beer light means soda or even water to many, and some have chimed in on this thread. Skydiving does not evoke a need to drink. A desire to drink is what really evokes a need to drink, and in that context any occasion serves as a ready platform. Evelyn, do not accept the notion that you must participate in one to have the other - "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #46 August 7, 2004 QuoteJust don't see how anyone can ever defend getting wasted before such a dangerous sport ---------------------------------------------------------- I never defended anyone getting wasted,nor did I even suggest that it's OK. I simply stated that in the real world, it happens. If you go back and look at my original post (pg 1) I said that it is neither safe nor right, it's just the way it is. : Nope, that is Not the way it is. That is the way you want it to be. ------------------------------------------------------------ What the hell is this supposed to mean? Somehow Green here insinuates that it is my fault people sometimes jump hungover. I'm just pointing out the truth. This guy had nothing constructive to add to this conversation. Nothing. *** Any statements that suggest skydiving and drinking are inseparable are false. And that means that one does not HAVE to expect that in this sport - ------------------------------------------------------------ I nor anyone else here suggested that drinking and skydiving are inseparable.But for god's sake man, WE HAVE BEER RULES!. What does that tell you? Drinking and driving are separable too, but people do it, and it has nothing to do with the way the vast majority of drivers want it. This has turned into a ridiculous conversation. I'm outPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greene 0 #47 August 8, 2004 You just posted one of the funniest responses I have ever read. Nope, do not know you, and you do not know me! funny Smoking Crack, a PAL? (skydivers drink?, no kidding!, give me another hint) Skydivers drink, the whole world drinks, even me at times, however, there is a right time to drink! And a right time to know when to quit. You will not skydive at our DZ when having a hangover or smelling like brewery on the aircraft! Sorry dude, I am not in a box! I am the box. :) Jackass?, you just might have made a personal attack. Greenies might nail you. When you have been around as long has some of old farts, please feel free to contact us again. Oh, wait, we will most likely be dead from old age . Not! skydiving when hungover or imparied by other substances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot1 0 #48 August 8, 2004 Ok, ENOUGH argueing about who drinks and who doesn't! Those who choose to drink the night before they jump, and possibly be hung over, jump safely. And those who choose NOT to drink the night before, send me your share..... Honestly the days of the all nighters, and jumping hung over or alittle drunk the next day, are not near as they were years ago.... Drinking is what it is, and YOU can choose whom you jump with. Be safe. -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aero04 0 #49 August 8, 2004 It's funny. One of the big "rules" is no drinking and skydiving. But it is perfectly fine to get wasted Saturday night and jump sunday morning. Seems to me that rule should be extended to include people who jump after getting hammered the night before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greene 0 #50 August 8, 2004 Jump safely, how do we know? No one knows for sure, we are not bloodhounds, You smell like booze or whatever you will not get on our aircraft. The only thing DZ's can do is to look, listen, and smell. The rest of you post is correct. 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towerrat 0 #46 August 7, 2004 QuoteJust don't see how anyone can ever defend getting wasted before such a dangerous sport ---------------------------------------------------------- I never defended anyone getting wasted,nor did I even suggest that it's OK. I simply stated that in the real world, it happens. If you go back and look at my original post (pg 1) I said that it is neither safe nor right, it's just the way it is. : Nope, that is Not the way it is. That is the way you want it to be. ------------------------------------------------------------ What the hell is this supposed to mean? Somehow Green here insinuates that it is my fault people sometimes jump hungover. I'm just pointing out the truth. This guy had nothing constructive to add to this conversation. Nothing. *** Any statements that suggest skydiving and drinking are inseparable are false. And that means that one does not HAVE to expect that in this sport - ------------------------------------------------------------ I nor anyone else here suggested that drinking and skydiving are inseparable.But for god's sake man, WE HAVE BEER RULES!. What does that tell you? Drinking and driving are separable too, but people do it, and it has nothing to do with the way the vast majority of drivers want it. This has turned into a ridiculous conversation. I'm outPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greene 0 #47 August 8, 2004 You just posted one of the funniest responses I have ever read. Nope, do not know you, and you do not know me! funny Smoking Crack, a PAL? (skydivers drink?, no kidding!, give me another hint) Skydivers drink, the whole world drinks, even me at times, however, there is a right time to drink! And a right time to know when to quit. You will not skydive at our DZ when having a hangover or smelling like brewery on the aircraft! Sorry dude, I am not in a box! I am the box. :) Jackass?, you just might have made a personal attack. Greenies might nail you. When you have been around as long has some of old farts, please feel free to contact us again. Oh, wait, we will most likely be dead from old age . Not! skydiving when hungover or imparied by other substances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #48 August 8, 2004 Ok, ENOUGH argueing about who drinks and who doesn't! Those who choose to drink the night before they jump, and possibly be hung over, jump safely. And those who choose NOT to drink the night before, send me your share..... Honestly the days of the all nighters, and jumping hung over or alittle drunk the next day, are not near as they were years ago.... Drinking is what it is, and YOU can choose whom you jump with. Be safe. -www.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aero04 0 #49 August 8, 2004 It's funny. One of the big "rules" is no drinking and skydiving. But it is perfectly fine to get wasted Saturday night and jump sunday morning. Seems to me that rule should be extended to include people who jump after getting hammered the night before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greene 0 #50 August 8, 2004 Jump safely, how do we know? No one knows for sure, we are not bloodhounds, You smell like booze or whatever you will not get on our aircraft. The only thing DZ's can do is to look, listen, and smell. The rest of you post is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
