This reminds me an episode of "Married...with children"

[CrazyIvan 0]

Any NO MA'AMers in the house.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5662809/

__________________________________________
Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.

[champu 1]

while breastfeeding in public is great and whatever, I think a certain level of discretion is in order*.




*unless the woman is hot.

[kingbunky 3]

i dunno, breastfeeding in public can be dangerous. i was in the west edmonton mall and went into the 'family room' with my ex to change our daughter. there was a young lady breastfeeding in there when we went in, and while i was trying to look like i wasn't looking at what i shouldn't have been looking at, i ran into a wall and nearly knocked myself out. to her credit, my ex laughed her ass off, and so did the young lady. <--me when i hit the wall.

"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart."
MB4252 TDS699
killing threads since 2001

[turtlespeed 226]

Quote

while breastfeeding in public is great and whatever, I think a certain level of discretion is in order*.




*unless the woman is hot.

You are just jealous.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Remster 30]

Quote

my ex laughed her ass off, and so did the young lady.

hehehe... soooooo busted!

Remster

[base311 0]

I was under the impression that breastfeeding mothers should limit their caffeine intake, but what do I know??

[WrongWay 0]

Quote

I was under the impression that breastfeeding mothers should limit their caffeine intake, but what do I know??

That's what I was thinking.....

And I'm sorry, but breastfeeding in public is not cool.

Edited to add:

Hey, maybe we should get a whole bunch of people to start having sex in Starbucks to get a law passed allowing it. Our excuse? The same as theirs. "It's natural."

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[wmw999 2,588]

Quote

And I'm sorry, but breastfeeding in public is not cool.

Why not?

Why is breastfeeding your baby in the bathroom, where flushing puts lots of germs into the air, better? Would you like to go to the bathroom to drink your coffee?

In that context, breasts are tools. Whose problem is it if some people can't deal with that?

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[SpeedRacer 1]

Quote

That's what I was thinking.....

And I'm sorry, but breastfeeding in public is not cool.

Edited to add:

Hey, maybe we should get a whole bunch of people to start having sex in Starbucks to get a law passed allowing it. Our excuse? The same as theirs. "It's natural."

Babies have to eat.
If you can't deal with it, tough titty for you.

Speed Racer
--------------------------------------------------

[WrongWay 0]

Quote

Why is breastfeeding your baby in the bathroom, where flushing puts lots of germs into the air, better?

I agree that a restroom would be a little gross and surely unhealthy, so I understand your point, but that's not the point here. The point here is the fact that nobody wants to see it. If I drank coffee, the last thing I'd wanna do is walk into a Starbucks and see some old chick with her boob flopping about.

Quote

In that context, breasts are tools. Whose problem is it if some people can't deal with that?

Okay, well in a medical context, my penis could be considered a tool as well. But how would you feel if you walked into a Starbucks and saw me putting it to use? My guess is, you'd be disgusted, just like every other normal person wanting a coffee instead of seeing other people's private parts.

Besides, when it comes to the average onlooker, there is no "context". If you see a breast, you see a breast. It doesn't matter if you're jogging, having coffee, or feeding pigeons in the park. No context changes that fact. If you wanna breastfeed in a public place, by all means go to a nudist colony or do it in your car (an environment in which you control the sanitation level). But if I whipped out MY private parts in a public area, the cop isn't going to give two shits if I think I can have it out because it's for a "noble cause". He's going to arrest me.

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[PhillyKev 0]

I agree. Besides, we're over populated. Let babies starve, that'll fix the problem.

[turtlespeed 226]

Quote

Quote

Why is breastfeeding your baby in the bathroom, where flushing puts lots of germs into the air, better?

I agree that a restroom would be a little gross and surely unhealthy, so I understand your point, but that's not the point here. The point here is the fact that nobody wants to see it. If I drank coffee, the last thing I'd wanna do is walk into a Starbucks and see some old chick with her boob flopping about.

Quote

In that context, breasts are tools. Whose problem is it if some people can't deal with that?

Okay, well in a medical context, my penis could be considered a tool as well. But how would you feel if you walked into a Starbucks and saw me putting it to use? My guess is, you'd be disgusted, just like every other normal person wanting a coffee instead of seeing other people's private parts.

Besides, when it comes to the average onlooker, there is no "context". If you see a breast, you see a breast. It doesn't matter if you're jogging, having coffee, or feeding pigeons in the park. No context changes that fact. If you wanna breastfeed in a public place, by all means go to a nudist colony or do it in your car (an environment in which you control the sanitation level). But if I whipped out MY private parts in a public area, the cop isn't going to give two shits if I think I can have it out because it's for a "noble cause". He's going to arrest me.

Jason,

I think you are way off base here.

There are ways to be discrete. I think that that is all that is the issue.
Feeding your kid. It's all that it is. I believe it is time to lighten up, as a society, and quit thinking that showing a female breast is an evil thing to do.

Personally, I think it is a beautiful thing. It IS nature, and natural. It isn't arousing, not sexually, at least. It is arousing in a "Wow, look at what she can do" kinda thing.

On a humorous note - We can write our name in the snow, they can feed our kids - get over it.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[WrongWay 0]

Quote

I agree. Besides, we're over populated. Let babies starve, that'll fix the problem.

Okay, go ahead and twist my words around to make it look like I support starving babies. That's a good laugh.

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[WrongWay 0]

Yeah it is all about what's considered "decent" to society. Breast feeding is fine if you cover yourself (as in the article "cover with a blanket"), but just letting it hang out, sometimes that can be a bit much when you're trying to read a newspaper or drink a coffee.

Quote

On a humorous note - We can write our name in the snow, they can feed our kids - get over it.

Wow, I haven't done that for a long time, I gotta remember that this winter.

Maybe we should all piss in front of Starbucks and spell out something like "Just add chocolate and caffiene".

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[turtlespeed 226]

Tact is essential in all aspects of life.

But then again - It depends on the size of the "Milk Jug"





**What????**You know I couldn't let y'all sit there and think - "Wow - that Turtle guy has some scruples" - Now could I?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[PhillyKev 0]

Quote

but just letting it hang out, sometimes that can be a bit much when you're trying to read a newspaper or drink a coffee.

How so? Seriously. Does it make you horny? Nauseous? Feel like flogging yourself in penitence? Would you rather hear a hungry baby screaming and crying? Is it impossible for you not to look?

[WrongWay 0]

Quote

Quote

but just letting it hang out, sometimes that can be a bit much when you're trying to read a newspaper or drink a coffee.

How so? Seriously. Does it make you horny? Nauseous? Feel like flogging yourself in penitence? Would you rather hear a hungry baby screaming and crying? Is it impossible for you not to look?

Hahaha yeah it makes me horny baby. Just kidding.

Seriously, let's throw in a similar matter (kinda). Since we are dealing with nudity in public places in a strictly non-sexual manner, let's discuss the situation of nudists. They do the same thing here, display naked parts of their body in public without any sexual reason (well most of them ). Because they are only out to be "natural", does that make it okay for them to walk into a starbucks like that? Some would be offended, some would laugh, some would turn their childrens heads, and some would maybe even get up the gall to say something to them about it. Either way, whether they wanted it to be or not, all eyes would be on them. All attention would be on them.

People love to look at things they admire, and people love even more to look at things they find offensive. Some people can ignore these things, while others cannot. Why do you think the "no shirt, no shoes, no service) rule was invented? Are there exceptions to the rule now?

By the way, of course I don't want any baby to go hungry, that would be inhuman. Still there are better ways of going about it. Cover yourself. Put some breast milk in a bottle. Do it in your car. All of that is fine, just don't shove it in my face at Starbucks, that's all I'm saying.

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[PhillyKev 0]

Quote

Because they are only out to be "natural", does that make it okay for them to walk into a starbucks like that?

I don't have a problem with it.

Quote

People love to look at things they admire, and people love even more to look at things they find offensive. Some people can ignore these things, while others cannot.

That's their problem, not the object of their curiosity. By that reasoning we shouldn't let midgets or amputees out in public either.

Quote

Why do you think the "no shirt, no shoes, no service) rule was invented?

Sanitary reasons.

Quote

Are there exceptions to the rule now?

Yes. In New York City, Toronto, and I'm sure other places, it is not illegal for a woman to go topless in public.

Quote

just don't shove it in my face at Starbucks

How is discreetly feeding your baby shoving it in someone's face? Seems to me, it's being shoved in the baby's face

[base311 0]

Actually I have less of a problem (in fact I don't have any problem with it at all) with breastfeeding in public than I do with a breastfeeding mother leading a crusade to have Starbucks do her bidding. To quote the article, "“Ultimately every ... state should have a law,” said Charkoudian, “We want Starbucks to set a precedent and be a leader, since it is a leader with a claim to being socially conscious.”

I guess my sentiment is if the women don't like the way Starbucks treats them and their breastfeeding babies, they're certainly welcome to vote with their feet and with their wallets. But I hardly think Starbucks ought to have to be raked over the coals for having asked the lady to be a little discreet. So after reading the MD law I find it to be a lot bit ambiguous and probably hasn't been on the books long enough for a court challenge. Seems to me if Starbucks wants her to cover up they should have that right. The law does say that the right to breastfeed shall not be limited. Does that mean Starbucks has no say whatsoever? I think not. IF Starbucks wanted to piss of the entire breastfeeding population by not allowing breastfeeders into the building then I feel that they should have that right. Wanna breast feed? Don't go to Starbucks. Want Starbucks? don't breastfeed.

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard someone say "there outta be a law..."

The Maryland Law:

§ 20-801. Breast-feeding of children.

(a) In general.- A mother may breast-feed her child in any public or private location in which the mother and child are authorized to be.

(b) Restriction of right prohibited.- A person may not restrict or limit the right of a mother to breast-feed her child. [2003, ch. 369.]

[PhillyKev 0]

So, it's ok for Starbucks to tell her what to do, but not ok for her to tell Starbucks what to do? I don't get the difference.

Quote

IF Starbucks wanted to piss of the entire breastfeeding population by not allowing breastfeeders into the building then I feel that they should have that right.

And if breast feeding women want to piss off Starbucks, I feel that they should have that right.

Quote

A person may not restrict or limit the right of a mother to breast-feed her child.

Seems to me that putting requirements on it would be construed as restricting or limiting.

[CrazyIvan 0]

I wonder if Starbucks should open a room for breastfeeding...how would they call it?, the TIT'EE ROOM or the TIT'EE BAR.

__________________________________________
Blue Skies and May the Force be with you.

[WrongWay 0]

Quote

Quote

Because they are only out to be "natural", does that make it okay for them to walk into a starbucks like that?

I don't have a problem with it.

Just because you don't doesn't mean others don't.

Quote

By that reasoning we shouldn't let midgets or amputees out in public either.

*bend, twist*

Yeah, and dogs should wear diapers too!!!

Quote

Quote

Why do you think the "no shirt, no shoes, no service) rule was invented?

Sanitary reasons.

Then what if one of these women has really bad aim?

Quote

Yes. In New York City, Toronto, and I'm sure other places, it is not illegal for a woman to go topless in public.

I bet you wish you lived around there huh?

Quote

Seems to me, it's being shoved in the baby's face

Touche!!

*shakes hand*

Okay, we'll agree to disagree, you got me cornered on that last one.

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[WrongWay 0]

Quote

So, it's ok for Starbucks to tell her what to do, but not ok for her to tell Starbucks what to do? I don't get the difference.

It's their establishment.

If I tell somebody I don't want them smoking in my house, you can bet your ass they're gonna step outside like I tell them too.

Wrong Way
D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451
The wiser wolf prevails.

[base311 0]

Quote

So, it's ok for Starbucks to tell her what to do, but not ok for her to tell Starbucks what to do? I don't get the difference.

What's hard to get? Starbucks owns the building and the coffee... the breastfeeding women own the mouths and the wallets (money to buy Starbuck's coffee). This is what I meant when I said the women can vote with their feet and their wallets.

Quote

Quote

IF Starbucks wanted to piss of the entire breastfeeding population by not allowing breastfeeders into the building then I feel that they should have that right.

And if breast feeding women want to piss off Starbucks, I feel that they should have that right.

They do have that right... the best way to piss off Starbucks is to walk down the street and buy coffee at some other coffee shop.

Quote

Quote

A person may not restrict or limit the right of a mother to breast-feed her child.

Seems to me that putting requirements on it would be construed as restricting or limiting.

Yes I have to agree with you there... under current law... but I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't challenged at some point. My main point is if the woman doesn't like it... tough titty.

I think there outta be a law that says Starbucks doesn't have to serve coffee to lactating mothers. There's always someone ready willing and able to fill a niche market. I'm gonna start a coffee shop that serves caffeine-free coffee to breastfeeding mothers only. No weak-stomached, coffee-drinking, newspaper-reading ogling guys allowed.

Gardner

P.S. Oh btw I love lactating mothers

[PhillyKev 0]

Quote

They do have that right... the best way to piss off Starbucks is to walk down the street and buy coffee at some other coffee shop.

Around here that's not much of an option, unless I want to walk down the street to the other Starbucks, or I could go the other direction to the other Starbucks. Or....well, there's the other starbucks. Of course I could go down this way, oh wait, that Starbucks is still being built