rehmwa 2 #51 August 11, 2004 QuoteQuotePing pong is capable of having a fat man be a top player. Period. So is sky diving. Maybe in Freeflying. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #52 August 11, 2004 Yeah, but archery is a "classic" greek sport like discus, javelin and hammer throw, so I'd always allow archery as a classic. Besides which, ever try shooting with a 50 pound bow? It's pretty physical.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #53 August 11, 2004 QuoteAccording to my math sense, sport is a word and it's definition is irrelevant. What on earth do you mean? Since we're talking about a sporting competition then of course it's definition is relevant. You can't bring in intellectual pursuits just to make non sporting guys feel better. They used to give out prizes for maths in my old school. Should some dumb guy be able to get a maths prize for the amount of weights he can lift because 'maths is just a word with a silly definition'?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #54 August 11, 2004 QuoteWhat on earth do you mean? Since we're talking about a sporting competition then of course it's definition is relevant. Actually we were talking about the Olympics. So how is that defined? Olympics: the greatest of the national festivals of the ancient Greeks, consisting of athletic games and races Athletic: Characterized by or involving physical activity or exertion; active Table tennis seems to fit that definition, unless they're hitting the balls with their telepathic powers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #55 August 11, 2004 i played 11 years profesional table tennis in my country RESPECT THE SPORT MAN all my friends told me that isn`t a sport IT IS and it is VERY NOOOOOOOICE ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #56 August 11, 2004 QuoteSince we're talking about a sporting competition then of course it's definition is relevant. Because if the olympic committee decides to include chess as an olympic sport, the only arguments against it you will be able to present are subjective and hold no water. The definition of sport depends on what society currently considers sport, and is almost completely independent of the characteristics of the pursuit in question. Dictionary.com says that a sport has to be physical, which is a characteristic, but there are examples of the olympic committee admitting non-physical sports into the mix, so even the current definitions are inconsistent. Serious arguments over what's a sport and what's not a sport is either just pissing in the wind or elitist indulgence and derogatory comments. What gets included in the olympics is essentially a subjective marketing decision guided by a set of rules. I really don't see why it matters. Suppose math or chess become an official sport. Has it somehow decreased, or in any way affected, any other sport? Examples of sports recognized by the olympics that involve little to no physical exertion: shooting (currently part of the games), FAI governed sports (including skydiving), bridge, golf, billiards, bowling, chess. Source: http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/index_uk.asp QuoteShould some dumb guy be able to get a maths prize for the amount of weights he can lift because 'maths is just a word with a silly definition'? We're not talking about the definition of the word "math". That's fairly well defined, defined enough to exclude what you are saying. Nobody gets a math prize for lifting weights, but nobody also gets a lifting weights prize for doing math. If the definition changes and math becomes an official sport, it'll still be a different sport from weight lifting. But, in a sense, you are right. Math is also a word, just like everything else in this rather silly argument. On a final note, I'm not trying to argue that the Putnam should be considered an olympic sport or something. I couldn't care less since I'm not good enough to compete in it anyway. I'm just sick of the elitism that is sometimes associated with these types of things. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #57 August 11, 2004 Quotephysical exertion I dont feel it needs to be to the level of exertion. Bridge and chess are purely mental games. It requires no physical skills whatsoever. The fact that the bribed, unethical, morally defunct IOC thinks they are sports doenst do much to me. They arent. Golf, bowling, curling, shooting, all need some physical skills. They are sport (yea... even that golf thing....)Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #58 August 11, 2004 Quotechess WAS in the Olympics Was...not is. Keep going. It's like a skeet shoot with you around here. You try and argue, I'll shoot it down. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #59 August 11, 2004 Skeet shooting IS in the olympics. I've seen plenty of fat people that do that pretty damn well. How's it feel to be the pigeon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #60 August 11, 2004 QuoteI'm just sick of the elitism that is sometimes associated with these types of things. Elitism is sometimes associated with the olympics? Elitism IS the olympics, and a damn good thing too. Watching any event to find the most mediocre guy in the pack would be pretty boring wouldn't it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #61 August 12, 2004 QuoteCall me old-fashioned but no sport should be in the olympics if a fat man can play it. Aw, come on, tuna. Two words - "The Fridge." Football is a helluva sport. Olympic sports fat men could play: 1. Archery - stand and shoot (my ADHD may get in the way, though) 2. Baseball - Mo Vaughn 3. Boxing - Butterbean (Only three rounds, right?) 4. Judo 5. Sailing 6. Shooting 7. Weightlifting 8. Wrestling Sport I'd love to see in the olympics? Poker. That'd be awesome! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #62 August 12, 2004 You wouldn't be confusing fat with heavy in a few of those would you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #63 August 12, 2004 Well, there are ways to gain weight without roid raging and shriveling your johnson... And, some of those weightlifters are FAT. Saying the Fridge was "heavy" is like saying George Foreman's knockout punch was more of a "fatherly affectionate tap." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #64 August 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteChess? No way in hell its a sport. Why? Because it's not physical? Besides, I'm not really referring to the current definition of the word "sport" in my post. I'm referring to people looking down on untraditional competitive activities. you really have to ask this on a skydiving site? i'm sure its in at least 3 sig lines.. "If you cant die doing it, it is a game, not a sport."____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #65 August 14, 2004 I'm with Wendy here... I've just seen Air Pistol shooting at the Olympics (yawn) and some of the participants were not what you could call of althletic build (fat? maybe) - IMHO shooting (on it's own - i.e not part of combined event like skiing - where the intention is to show control after a very physically demanding session) has no place in an Athletics competition. may as well introduce Darts! (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
