FreeflyDom 0 #1 January 15, 2010 Hi I wanted to ask everyone when placing your d bag in the container is it ok to put d bag in without turning line stows to the bottom of the container. Just put the stows facing down. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkie 0 #2 January 15, 2010 QuoteHi I wanted to ask everyone when placing your d bag in the container is it ok to put d bag in without turning line stows to the bottom of the container. Just put the stows facing down. Thanks If it fits.. then yeah. Why do you ask? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #3 January 15, 2010 Ok if it fits. Some containers are having the stows facing down... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 January 15, 2010 QuoteHi I wanted to ask everyone when placing your d bag in the container is it ok to put d bag in without turning line stows to the bottom of the container. Just put the stows facing down. Thanks As others have said, yes it is ok as long as you can close the container. Wingsuiters have been packing this way for a long time. Pictures of the Birdman Specific D bag made by Jump Shack to be packed this way can be seen HERE. More pictures of the bag can be seen HERE"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 January 15, 2010 QuoteI wanted to ask everyone when placing your d bag in the container is it ok to put d bag in without turning line stows to the bottom of the container. Just put the stows facing down. Why do you want to do that? If the bag is designed to fit the container laying flat, then you should pack it flat. If you put the long side of the container vertical instead of horizontal, it may not fit properly. And if it doesn't fit properly, then there's a chance the bag will float out of the container prematurely, instead of being held in place until extracted by the pilot chute, thus giving you an out of sequence deployment. There are consequences to what you are contemplating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KellyF 16 #6 January 15, 2010 The best answer is to look at the profile of the D-bag. If it's rectangular in profile (with the exception of a bag designed like what Scott has pictured) the lines generally should towards the bottom flap. If the bag is more square in profile, you can place the lines in either location. It's mostly a cosmetic issue- imagine trying to fit a vertical rectangle into a horizontal one of the same area/volume. Does it fit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerpaul 1 #7 January 15, 2010 Lots of good advice in the posts earlier than this. Some rigs, Wings, for example, even call out in the manual that you can do it either way. As already said, the shape of the bag is the key. I want to ask another question though. Why do you want to stow the bag differently? Are you having trouble getting the lines all the way down to the bottom of the container? If that's the case, I'll remind you that bag orientation does not eliminate the need to be certain that the lines are not too tight around the bottom corners of the reserve container. No matter where you decide to put the lines, be sure that they are not inviting themselves to grab on those corners of the reserve container. There are several bad effects of having the lines tight against the reserve container corners. They can eventually tear the bottom of the reserve container off the rest of the rig. Though it probably won't kill you right off, it can be costly to repair, depending on the damage that was done. It can certainly contribute to line twist and other opening problems. If one side snags the corner more than the other you will get unevent tension on the right and left sides during the deployment. Depending on how severe the difference in tension, it can really mess up an opening. So, whatever you do, be sure to properly route the lines so that snagging the reserve container corners is avoided. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites