ltdiver 3 #1 August 14, 2004 “I was turned down in my request, by Peter, to make skydiving an Olympic sport,” Bush joked. In June, he celebrated his 80th birthday with a 13,000-foot parachute jump over his presidential library in Texas." See this event. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #2 August 14, 2004 must.....kill....peter..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ranchgirl 0 #3 August 14, 2004 Maybe now that I'm working on the Olympics, and may have involvement in future Olympic Games, maybe I can one day at least convince them to let demo jumpers jump into the Opening or Closing Cermemonies holding flags or something. It could happen. I know the producers of the Opening Ceremonies...so i have to try to get in on them for the Winter Games.-Crystal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #4 August 15, 2004 1988 Seoul Opening Ceremonies...besides the Olympic Rings there were 100 or 200 other jumpers that landed in the stadium trailing streamers...very impressive...but that is as far as skydiving has gotten with the Olympics. And, that is as far as i think it will ever get.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 August 15, 2004 Now that would be cool, having an accuracy jumper or a swooper light the flame. No need to worry about tripping on your way up the stairs. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #6 August 16, 2004 QuoteNow that would be cool, having an accuracy jumper or a swooper light the flame. It cracks me up how us skydivers always have one train of thought. No matter where we go, my boy-toy says, "This would be a killer place to swoop, I could come in through these two trees, and land right there by the bandshell and..." Or, when I'm on my way home from work and I see a plane flying overhead at the beach I think, "Wouldn't it be cool if I was on that plane now, and could just skydive home and land in my backyard? The way the flag is moving, I could come in easy right over my neighbor's roof and land just right into the wind on my backporch..." Ha ha ha. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #7 August 16, 2004 I heard skydiving is supposed to be an exhibition event in the 2008 Olympics. Only 20 seconds of working time for 4-way, and the clock starts at the 1st point, not on exit. Not sure how much truth to that there is, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 August 16, 2004 Come on people. I had to sit through mixed double badmiton last night. There has to be SOME way to get jumping into the medals race. (China beat the crap out of Sweden) witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 August 16, 2004 One thing that people are not considering . . . The olympic commitee will not sanction anything in which fossil fuels are burned - oh wait - the torch. Seriously - are there ANY motorized events?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #10 August 16, 2004 QuoteOne thing that people are not considering . . . The olympic commitee will not sanction anything in which fossil fuels are burned - oh wait - the torch. Seriously - are there ANY motorized events? Ski lifts are typically run by diesel engines aren't they? A jump plane would seem to serve the same purpose as a ski lift. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 August 16, 2004 The safety boats for the kayaking burn fossil fuels. Don't sail boats have motors in them? (same safety thing) edit: No, there are no events where the competitors use motors while competing. They do make use of them before and after the event though, just as skydivers do.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #12 August 16, 2004 Wow, that's ironic. Somebody in the Bush family finally has a good idea, and it's turned down. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #13 August 16, 2004 QuoteOne thing that people are not considering . . . The olympic commitee will not sanction anything in which fossil fuels are burned - oh wait - the torch. Seriously - are there ANY motorized events? Um, invent a clean-burning av gas??? Why not, they've already got it for cars...it just isn't cost effective at the moment. -Electric jump planes?? Of course, it would prolly take 15 hours of charging for each lift...we'd need a sh*tload of 'em charged up and waiting. Why hasn't someone invented a hybrid fuel source that will take solar energy, a cleaner burning fuel, and electric and smushed 'em together so we have something we can use for more than 15 miles at a time?? Hmmm....~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #14 August 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteOne thing that people are not considering . . . The olympic commitee will not sanction anything in which fossil fuels are burned - oh wait - the torch. Seriously - are there ANY motorized events? Ski lifts are typically run by diesel engines aren't they? A jump plane would seem to serve the same purpose as a ski lift. Ski lifts are a convenience, the athletes could walk the hill... an aircraft is absolutely necessary for skydiving.... not the same at all really... there are no motorized events. The energy to accomplish whatever task it is the sport requires comes from humans (or replaces the basic human effort in the case of the winter Olympics for speed and convenience) you might be able to argue about the marksmanship competitions... but then lots of people have said those shouldn’t be Olympic sports for that reason for quite some time... usually the people who don’t like that they are 'war-like' events without realizing many of the Olympic trials replicate warfare and soldier's skills.....ancient warfare at least____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #15 August 16, 2004 Quote an aircraft is absolutely necessary for skydiving.... not the same at all really... there are no motorized events. The energy to accomplish whatever task it is the sport requires comes from humans (or replaces the basic human effort in the case of the winter Olympics for speed and convenience) you might be able to argue about the marksmanship competitions... but then lots of people have said those shouldn’t be Olympic sports for that reason for quite some time... usually the people who don’t like that they are 'war-like' events without realizing many of the Olympic trials replicate warfare and soldier's skills.....ancient warfare at least There are, however, alternatives. LOL - 15K climb and hike and an accuracy at the end - of a 1000' cliff. Timed of course, and points taken off for distance from the disk.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #16 August 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteOne thing that people are not considering . . . The olympic commitee will not sanction anything in which fossil fuels are burned - oh wait - the torch. Seriously - are there ANY motorized events? Ski lifts are typically run by diesel engines aren't they? A jump plane would seem to serve the same purpose as a ski lift. Ski lifts are a convenience, the athletes could walk the hill... an aircraft is absolutely necessary for skydiving.... not the same at all really... there are no motorized events. The energy to accomplish whatever task it is the sport requires comes from humans (or replaces the basic human effort in the case of the winter Olympics for speed and convenience) you might be able to argue about the marksmanship competitions... but then lots of people have said those shouldn’t be Olympic sports for that reason for quite some time... usually the people who don’t like that they are 'war-like' events without realizing many of the Olympic trials replicate warfare and soldier's skills.....ancient warfare at least Wait wait, hold up here; if all of the energy for these tasks need to come from humans...I'd question those ski-jumpy things....They are being assisted by a monstrous freaking hill and a couple of slick 2 by 4's on their feet to get the flippy-energy needed to fly like they do. Skydiving has been said to be the fastest a human can go without the use of power/motor. Soo....I would agree with the assessment that the airplane is like a ski lift....-granted we couldn't fly up there ourselves, but WTF about yachting then??? They need a boat, we need a plane!! I guess all this would be a moot point if we talk about BASE jumping...but where's the sport in that?? I guess the gold medal winner would be the one with the least amount of stitches at the end of the games.... ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dninness 4 #17 August 16, 2004 Quote1988 Seoul Opening Ceremonies...besides the Olympic Rings there were 100 or 200 other jumpers that landed in the stadium trailing streamers...very impressive...but that is as far as skydiving has gotten with the Olympics. And, that is as far as i think it will ever get. Not to be pendatic but it was less than 60 other skydivers.. (22 or 23 of which jumped out of my helicopter..)NIN D-19617, AFF-I '19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #18 August 16, 2004 >Um, invent a clean-burning av gas??? Aircraft turbines will run on biodiesel, although none are currently STC'ed to allow that. Turbine engines are pretty versatile in terms of what fuels they are happy with. >Why hasn't someone invented a hybrid fuel source that will take solar >energy, a cleaner burning fuel, and electric and smushed 'em together so > we have something we can use for more than 15 miles at a time?? I have a car that gets 50mpg, uses an electric motor and has a range of about 500 miles. Burns gasoline, but it's an SULEV, and its exhaust is often cleaner than the LA air that it sucks in. Honda makes a natural gas car that is so clean it's considered an electric car for carpool lane purposes. And you can make natural gas from solar power. I make about 15 kilowatt-hours a day more than I use from solar power; if I had a fuel converter I could fuel such a car from my own power. All the parts are there and they exist today; we just have to decide to use them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #19 August 16, 2004 I mentioned this in the other thread about this same topic but, basically the IOC said that there was not a concern regarding the use of airplanes because: Quote mechanical propulsion is used purely as technical support for the competition in areas unrelated to the sporting performance itself As for the 2008 games the FAI was denied application for skydiving. Read http://www.fai.org:81/news_archives/fai/000127.asp for more information~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #20 August 16, 2004 QuoteNot to be pendatic but it was less than 60 other skydivers.. (22 or 23 of which jumped out of my helicopter..) You have a helicopter?? Oooh, want a new best friend??? ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dninness 4 #21 August 18, 2004 Quote You have a helicopter?? Oooh, want a new best friend??? Not anymore I don't.. the Army kept it when I got out. Bastards. NIN D-19617, AFF-I '19 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #22 August 18, 2004 QuoteQuote You have a helicopter?? Oooh, want a new best friend??? Not anymore I don't.. the Army kept it when I got out. Bastards. They do sh*t like that, huh?!? Kept my rifle when I left too, just when I was startin' to have fun with it.... ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
