mr2mk1g 10 #51 August 23, 2004 That's because the first half of the film is from a book called "The Spirit of the Bayonet". It's a good book, and you oughta get it out if you like the film. Goes into even more detail about basic. There's one scene (in the book) where a private takes out his bayonet on parade and slashes his wrists. The SM bawls him out for messing up his parade ground and because he didn't give him permission to bleed. Said suicidal private then has to mop up his own blood while the SM gives him and the rest of the company a lecture on how you're supposed to commit suicide if you really mean it. Dunno where the second half of the film's from - but it's not from that book. Anyone know if there's any truth in the tail that the cast was lined up on set and told that an SM was going to come in and shout at them and they were to play along. The SM (Ron Ermey) was then simply let lose on them and much of the final cut was ad-lib stuff straight out of his military exp. anyone? (edit - actually he was a Gunnery Sargent not a Sargent Major). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quatorze 1 #52 August 23, 2004 Quote Anyone know if there's any truth in the tail that the cast was lined up on set and told that an SM was going to come in and shout at them and they were to play along. The SM (Ron Ermey) was then simply let lose on them and much of the final cut was ad-lib stuff straight out of his military exp. Nope, Saw an interview with "The Old Gunny" and the way he describes it he was an advisor to the film and the actor they had playing the Drill Sergeant was not doing what the director had in mind, the Director had Ermey show him what a Staff SGt in the Corp would to and everyone just said, ah Screw it let Ermey do it, acto canned, Gunny In, and to hear him talk about having to hit the big Pvt Pyle, "Oh man I hope I don't piss this big guy off and he whoop my ass" And on the book the book "The Short Timers" is the book of Full Metal Jacket ( had to go to my book shelf) and covers it all, and the reason the movie seems to leave off in the middle, is because it does, the fight at the Champagne (?) River, is barely half waay through the novel http://www.gustavhasford.com/Full.htm I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScubaSteve 0 #53 August 23, 2004 You'all aut to do a movie about me... How do you shoot women and children... easy you just dont lead them as much... Its s sick movie, but somehow still funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quatorze 1 #54 August 23, 2004 GET SOME! GET SOME! GET SOME ! Quote You'all aut to do a movie about me... How do you shoot women and children... easy you just dont lead them as much... Its s sick movie, but somehow still funny. I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #55 August 23, 2004 Quote and to hear him talk about having to hit the big Pvt Pyle, "Oh man I hope I don't piss this big guy off and he whoop my ass" Quote In the interview..they showed how the Gunny DID hit Pyle... accidentally! Spun his hit 360 degrees and hurt the gunny's hand...and Pyle NEVER moved... By the way...Pyle is the brainy detective now, on Law & Order ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #56 August 23, 2004 Quote By the way...Pyle is the brainy detective now, on Law & Order Wow ya know I knew that guy from somewhere. I could never place him until just now!! "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #57 August 24, 2004 Quote Interesting bit of trivia. . While we're on the trivia thing... Have a look at the roads they're marching on. They're all set up to drive on the lefthand side.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #58 August 24, 2004 hehehe - I was about to start arguing with you that NO, FMJ really was based on "The Spirit of the Bayonet" when the website I was to point you to reminded me that "The Short Timers" is split into 3 short stories... the first of which is "The Spirit of the Bayonet"... so we're both right! (From Amazon's review of "The Short Timers") Quote The book is spilt into three connected novellas. The first two, "Spirit of the Bayonet" and "Body Count," were adapted by Stanley Kubrick for his film "Full Metal Jacket." However, the final novella in the book, "Grunts," which details Joker's experiences in the besieged Khe Sahn base, rivals the Do Lung Bridge sequence in "Apocalypse Now," and it's a shame Kubrick didn't include this section in his movie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #59 August 24, 2004 Quote Its s sick movie, but somehow still funny. Gallo's humor. Pilots, skydivers, military, medical staff all have some "sick" humor to deal with the stress.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #60 August 24, 2004 Quote Quote By the way...Pyle is the brainy detective now, on Law & Order Wow ya know I knew that guy from somewhere. I could never place him until just now!! He also plays "Edgar Bug" in Men In Black. Did you know that one? Didya, didja? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #61 August 24, 2004 Quote He also plays "Edgar Bug" in Men In Black. Quote Mmmmm! Sugar...MORE SUGAR! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
