happythoughts 0 #1 September 2, 2004 Ok, hurricanes start out in sub-Saharan Africa. Then they move across the Atlantic and pound the US/Caribbean area causing billions of $ in damage. If you could eliminate 1/2 of them, or tone them down so much that they dissipated, it would be worth big bucks to the insurance companies. The cause is heat. If you reduce the heat, less are formed. Solution - for $10 million, hire a bunch of African locals to plant date palms. Palms would absorb solar heat, less storms. Dates are a good agricultural trade product. With less hunger and unemployment, less tribal warfare. Problems solved? Hurricanes, unemployment, hunger, and war. Insurance rates go down. Less damage to property. I should be in charge of something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #2 September 2, 2004 Quote I should be in charge of something. You can have my job as gravity monitor at big ways. Just 'cos I'm a physicist I get the job every time!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #3 September 2, 2004 Is that the guy with the gravometer that measures impact and fall rate?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #4 September 2, 2004 QuoteIf you reduce the heat, less are formed. Bill, you're a genius, you're rehired for whatever it was you wanted to do for my country. QuoteQuote I should be in charge of something. You can have my job as gravity monitor at big ways. Just 'cos I'm a physicist I get the job every time! John - Hate to break this to you, but that's their way of saying "Stop bothering us" That's like parents telling the children to go to sleep or Santa won't come. "Uhh.. yeah... go keep an eye on gravity... no no no, it's a very important function, people could get hurt if the gravitational force unexpectedly changed!" You physicists are so gullible sometimes....it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #5 September 2, 2004 They gave you the GM job because you are not affected by it. Without weights, you'd be up there all day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #6 September 2, 2004 QuoteThey gave you the GM job because you are not affected by it. Without weights, you'd be up there all day. Sometimes I do that, just for kicks.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #7 September 2, 2004 QuoteQuoteIf you reduce the heat, less are formed. Bill, you're a genius, you're rehired for whatever it was you wanted to do for my country. QuoteQuote I should be in charge of something. You can have my job as gravity monitor at big ways. Just 'cos I'm a physicist I get the job every time! John - Hate to break this to you, but that's their way of saying "Stop bothering us" That's like parents telling the children to go to sleep or Santa won't come. "Uhh.. yeah... go keep an eye on gravity... no no no, it's a very important function, people could get hurt if the gravitational force unexpectedly changed!" You physicists are so gullible sometimes.... You can mock, but without gravity your skydiving would suck big time.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #8 September 2, 2004 >The cause is heat. If you reduce the heat, less are formed. Solution - >for $10 million, hire a bunch of African locals to plant date palms. Problem there. Sand has a high albedo; it absorbs little light and reflects most of it back into space. Date palm leaves have a low albedo; they absorb most of the light/heat energy that hits them. It seems cooler on the surface because it's shady and because the palms use water to cool themselves due to evaporation, but now you've created a warmer, wetter air mass above them. Warmer and wetter air = more bad weather. You can see this when flying your canopy. Fly over a sandy lot, then fly over blacktop. The blacktop absorbs more heat, and you'll feel the rising hot air above them. You can see it out in the plains states as well - more clouds form over irrigated fields than over grassy plains. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 September 2, 2004 But if I get a grant from the govt for $100 million, you'd help, wouldn't ya? After all, they give money to study flatulence from cows butts, I think my idea deserves consideration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #10 September 2, 2004 Spoil Sport._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dixieskydiver 0 #11 September 2, 2004 Quote>The cause is heat. If you reduce the heat, less are formed. Solution - >for $10 million, hire a bunch of African locals to plant date palms. Problem there. Sand has a high albedo; it absorbs little light and reflects most of it back into space. Date palm leaves have a low albedo; they absorb most of the light/heat energy that hits them. It seems cooler on the surface because it's shady and because the palms use water to cool themselves due to evaporation, but now you've created a warmer, wetter air mass above them. Warmer and wetter air = more bad weather. You can see this when flying your canopy. Fly over a sandy lot, then fly over blacktop. The blacktop absorbs more heat, and you'll feel the rising hot air above them. You can see it out in the plains states as well - more clouds form over irrigated fields than over grassy plains. Can't we just get that experimental stuff that absorbs moisture in the air, air lift a few million tons of it and drop it strategically on forming storms in the atlantic and dissipate them before they become unmanageable? Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #12 September 2, 2004 >Can't we just get that experimental stuff that absorbs moisture in the >air, air lift a few million tons of it and drop it strategically on forming > storms in the atlantic and dissipate them before they become > unmanageable? We could just reverse the spin of the earth. It would probably be cheaper. That would basically reverse the ocean currents driven by the Coriolis force, turn Florida into a Mexico-like dry climate, and give San Diego thunderstorms every day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #13 September 2, 2004 He's just concerned that if I find a solution to global warming, he'll be stuck with a hybrid car for no reason. "Uh... yeah, I bought it because... oh, nevermind." Also, if what BV says is true, the weather might provide enough wind for wind-powered generators. Free electricity, use the elec. to split seawater and produce hydrogen or de-salinate water. The Africans could be driving their hydrogen-powered Humvees out to water their pollutionless golf courses. I should email John Kerry right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #14 September 2, 2004 QuoteCan't we just get that experimental stuff that absorbs moisture in the air, air lift a few million tons of it and drop it strategically on forming storms You are talking about sponges. However, it is a matter of balance. There are already huge number of natural sponges on the bottom of the ocean. If we pull them up and wring them out, the water that is released would cause the ocean level to rise momentarily, causing coastal flooding. After dropping the sponges on the hurricane, the hurricane would be absorbed and the sponges would return to the ocean floor. You've got a good idea there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dixieskydiver 0 #15 September 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteCan't we just get that experimental stuff that absorbs moisture in the air, air lift a few million tons of it and drop it strategically on forming storms You are talking about sponges. However, it is a matter of balance. There are already huge number of natural sponges on the bottom of the ocean. If we pull them up and wring them out, the water that is released would cause the ocean level to rise momentarily, causing coastal flooding. After dropping the sponges on the hurricane, the hurricane would be absorbed and the sponges would return to the ocean floor. You've got a good idea there. High molecular weight hydrophilic polymers to be exact...but the EPA says they caused lung cancer in some animals. But it did work in field tests supposedly on smaller storms. Oh well. Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #16 September 3, 2004 QuoteIf we pull them up and wring them out, the water that is released would cause the ocean level to rise momentarily, causing coastal flooding. Um no. It's called displacement. If you pull the sponges out, the water level will drop. When you squeeze the water out of the sponges, the level will still not be as high until you put the sponges back in. Good thought tho. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #17 September 3, 2004 QuoteBut if I get a grant from the govt for $100 million, you'd help, wouldn't ya? After all, they give money to study flatulence from cows butts, I think my idea deserves consideration. Bill, you're fired again. I'm voting for Bill V. to assist me with world domination. You can be the Minister of Entertainment or something... it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #18 September 3, 2004 Quote High molecular weight hydrophilic polymers to be exact...but the EPA says they caused lung cancer in some animals. But it did work in field tests supposedly on smaller storms. Oh well. It's scarey that you know this. Have you been learning again? Haven't I told you that college is for drinking and chasing girls!! Quit educating yourself and becoming a mature, productive adult and get back to the debauchery dammitI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #19 September 3, 2004 QuoteHigh molecular weight hydrophilic polymers to be exact...but the EPA says they caused lung cancer in some animals. Precisely the reason that my animals are not allowed to play with hydrophilic polymers. For their own good. Sponges do not cause lung cancer and they are harder to inhale anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #20 September 7, 2004 QuoteYou can be the Minister of Entertainment or something I was disguising the title as Vice President. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #21 September 7, 2004 Quote>Can't we just get that experimental stuff that absorbs moisture in the >air, air lift a few million tons of it and drop it strategically on forming > storms in the atlantic and dissipate them before they become > unmanageable? We could just reverse the spin of the earth. It would probably be cheaper. That would basically reverse the ocean currents driven by the Coriolis force, turn Florida into a Mexico-like dry climate, and give San Diego thunderstorms every day. We already have the technology: www.hollywood.com/movies/reviews/movie/1711662... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #22 September 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou can be the Minister of Entertainment or something I was disguising the title as Vice President. No, you have to have some obscure title... sorry. I don't want people knowing you have a position in the government... might scare them off. it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
