Aerostore dicked me over $85.00

[Jib 0]

I wanted a beer camera helmet for the WFFC and decided I wanted an Optik Illusion if I could get my hands on it. Bonehead told me Aerostore had one. So, I called them on Monday before the WFFC and they said that they wanted to get some ad time from it. I said I wouldn't be there until Sunday. They took my name, said I had dibs on it and then sold it out from under me. Sorry dude but he offered me $420. It took 20 minutes before he offered to do ANYTHING to even TRY to make it right -- a unsucessful call to Bonehead. Hell, I would've paid the $85.00 over list had they said some guy wants it if you don't.

So, Aerostore made a decision and I hope you'll consider their decision the next time you're looking for gear.

--------------------------------------------------
the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[ACMESkydiver 0]

That's kinda poopy... I like to deal with people in person as much as possible...

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[turtlespeed 226]

If that is really what happened - than that does SUCK!

Buisnesses are only as good as their word.

Then again - buisness is buisness. They should have offered you the deal as well, though.

Well, unless it was a friend of the owner of the shop - then - well, yeah - they still should have done what they said they would do.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[scottbre 0]

Need some cheese with that?...

You didn't put down a deposit, and you didn't just order it directly from them either. Thus they had no obligation to hold a helmet for you. And if they're going to be able to sell a helmet for 85 bucks more than it's normally priced, then I'm sure they're going to jump all over that. The guy you talked to who said they'd hold it, probably wasn't even the same guy or even in contact with the person who actually sold the helmet.

Order another one at the lower (regular) price. You get the same thing, and it'll be cheaper.

I bought a Rawa helmet at the Aerostore at Rantoul and not only did they let me test jump it, and wait around after the store was closed for the evening so that I could come back and buy it, but I also got it for under the listed price. They were very accomodating.

Geez you make it sound like a crime to want to make money.

"Your mother's full of stupidjuice!"
My Art Project

[Jib 0]

Quote

You didn't put down a deposit, and you didn't just order it directly from them either. Thus they had no obligation to hold a helmet for you.

[Personal attack deleted]

Bullshit!! You don't need a deposit to have a contract for the sale of goods of less than $500.00, let alone have it in writing. I offered a credit card number but since they were packing up to drive to the WFFC, they didn't want to deal with it.

Quote

And if they're going to be able to sell a helmet for 85 bucks more than it's normally priced, then I'm sure they're going to jump all over that.

That's a helluva way to do business, which is why I posted it.

Quote

The guy you talked to who said they'd hold it, probably wasn't even the same guy or even in contact with the person who actually sold the helmet.

They were both at the WFFC and two guys were aware of it during my phone call.

Quote

Order another one at the lower (regular) price. You get the same thing, and it'll be cheaper.

4-6 weeks and after the WFFC.

BTW my camera won't fit in a RAWA.

--------------------------------------------------
the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[catfishhunter 2]

Everything I have for sale is FOR SALE until I have a deposit PERIOD. I sell equipment out from under dumb fucks all the time. When they whine I just say "remember when I said we take deposits and you said thats alright I will just wait tell I get all the money together and pay for it all at once and I said ok but just so you know everything is for sale until I get a deposit" We run a buinsess and if I waited on every person who asked me to "HOLD" a peice of equipment without a deposit I would never sell a fucking thing and we would go out of buisness.

Suck it up, if you wanted it you should have paid for it. then it would have been YOURS and not THEIRS to sell.

MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT
Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

[pilotdave 0]

I've had great experiences with them, in person. When I needed a new pilot chute, Marco (the owner) unstiched my old one from my dbag (dunno why it was stiched on in the first place) and installed the new one for no additional charge.

Another time, I wanted to demo a rig but he didn't have one that would fit me (and a canopy I could fly). So he disconnected the risers from one of his demo rigs, connected it to my container, and let me jump it as many times as I wanted, for free. And since it was a brrrrand new canopy (I put jump #2 on it) and I had only packed worn out ZP a few times, he even packed for me... and wouldn't accept money for it. At the end of the day, he hooked my canopy back up for me.

Finally, when I had decided I'd probably buy a new container, Marco measured me even though I was clear I wasn't ready to buy anything yet. He spent time going over all the options and pricing it all out for me. Didn't end up buying from them, but it wasn't because they treated me badly (and their prices were good too)!

Sucks that you had a bad experience with them, but based on my experience with them, I'm willing to bet it was a mistake.

Dave

[Zenister 0]

piss poor way to do business in a small industry.. If you tell someone you'll hold an item you should honor your word... if you cant/dont it says something about your business practices as a whole... only in it for a buck??

if they ask and you say 'first come first served'. that is one thing, but if you agree to hold it in the first place....

____________________________________
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[Jib 0]

You take deposits or you don't say it's yours.
That's the right way to do business.

I never asked for it to be held, tried to accomodate their need for advertising and had credit card in hand.

There's a big difference.

--------------------------------------------------
the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[Jib 0]

Quote

I've had great experiences with them, in person. When I needed a new pilot chute, Marco (the owner)...

I don't *think* Marco was involved or at the WFFC.
I probably wish he had been.
If I hear from him, I'll post it.

--------------------------------------------------
the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt

[Keith 0]

Quote

We run a buinsess and if I waited on every person who asked me to "HOLD" a peice of equipment without a deposit I would never sell a fucking thing and we would go out of buisness.

You might want to read the thread before you start attacking the guy. He already said, “ . . . I offered a credit card number but since they were packing up to drive to the WFFC, they didn't want to deal with it.”

Keith

Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville

[catfishhunter 2]

I wrote my reply while he was writing that and didn't see it. If he actually offered a credit card at the time then that changes everything but he didn't say that in the original post. If he had offered to pay for it and they wanted to wait then I would consider that a sale and they sold HIS helment.

The original post sounded as if he wanted to wait tell he got to the wffc to buy the helment.

I was never attacking anyone just stating how I do buisness i.e. I don't wait around HOPING someone is going to follow through and pay for something...

Peace

MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT
Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

[scottbre 0]

Quote

[Personal attack deleted]

Good call.

Quote

Bullshit!! You don't need a deposit to have a contract for the sale of goods of less than $500.00, let alone have it in writing.

To have a valid and enforceable contract, consideration of some sort must be exchanged. Since this didn't happen, they weren't obligated to hold it for you, and had they held it, you weren't obligated to go and actually buy it from them.

Quote

I offered a credit card number but since they were packing up to drive to the WFFC, they didn't want to deal with it.

This sucks. Sounds like you were willing to buy it from them when you talked to them, and then would pick it up at WFFC. It does seem kinda lame that they didn't go ahead and sell it to you then, with the understanding that you would pick it up at WFFC or else they'd ship it to you afterwards, if you never show up.

Quote

BTW my camera won't fit in a RAWA.

I wasn't suggesting that a Rawa would fit your needs, just showing that I dealt with Aerostore in person, and was very pleased with the results.

"Your mother's full of stupidjuice!"
My Art Project

[EDYDO 0]

99% of all sales will go without a hitch. It is the rare one where a problem exists that tells you about the people with whom you deal.

Ed

[Brains 2]

Quote

... only in it for a buck??

You think they do it for practice??

Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you.

[Zenister 0]

Quote

Quote

... only in it for a buck??

You think they do it for practice??

well to some people their word is more important...

____________________________________
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[jumper03 0]

Quote

well to some people their word is more important...

And when you really get down to it, at the end of the day, your word is the only thing you have....

Jump

Scars remind us that the past is real

[AggieDave 6]

Quote

And when you really get down to it, at the end of the day, your word is the only thing you have....

Exactly!

A lot of times I feel old fasioned in my 24year old life putting so much importance on my word.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[sunshine 2]

Tis amusing to see someone try to tell a lawyer how the law works.

___________________________________________
meow

I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug!

[cvfd1399 0]

Quote

piss poor way to do business in a small industry.. If you tell someone you'll hold an item you should honor your word.

I totally agree. Some people are out there for money, and all a person can trust is their word. If the person who sold it was the person that you talked to, and he didn't honestly forget about his verbal contract with you, then no thanks I will buy some where else.

[Keith 0]

Quote

I was never attacking anyone just stating how I do buisness . . .

He said Areostore sold the helmet out from under him and you had this to say:

Quote

I sell equipment out from under dumb fucks all the time.

Maybe it's just me, but this sounds like you're calling him a dumb fuck.

Keith

Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville

[cvfd1399 0]

I agree. What business does he run so I can not buy from him also

[catfishhunter 2]

I can see that. Probably not the best choice of words for me to use in this forum. I just have dealt with a real A-HOLE that has been jerking my chain for over 2 months and still hasn't put up any cash for the 40k in equipment he wants and when I told him that I had another buyer on the line for half of what he is wanting he got all pissy and whiny about how HE was going to buy it and I should wait for him to finish his financing which bye the way he has been approved a month ago but doesn't like the rate yet can't find a better rate and refuses to put a deposit on the equipment.

Jib-- I offer my sioncere apolgies if what I wrote offended you. It was not my intention. I would just PM you and apologies but since I made my statements in public I offer my apologies in the same...


cvfd1399.. I doubt you will be buying anything from me but if you ever need carpet cleaning equipment I will be happy to sell to you. If you have any question to how I conduct business all you need to do is click http://feedback.ebay.com/ws1/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=jwcinc&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS 100% Positive feedback and a Gold Power Seller.That is just a very SMALL part of what I do

I treat people the way I would want to be treated. Customer Service is of the utmost importance but don't jerk my chain. Either you have the money or you don't. I don't have time to sit and HOPE I am going to get paid for something.My check depends on what I sell not what I think I might,maybe hope and pray to sell....

MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT
Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose.

[DBCOOPER 5]

Marco is still in the hospital in Brazil recovering from a skydiving incident.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1125726;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon

If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea.

[mr2mk1g 10]

I had a company do exactly the same to me re a set of alloy wheels they had on sale a couple of years back. I offered payment in full, a deposit – whatever they wanted. No, they said – just pay when you get them fitted, they’re yours and we’ll take them off sale now. Fine – I’ll be in Saturday morning to have them fitted.

Saturday morning at 10:30 I turn up to find them literally being fitted to another person’s car. I was far from being a happy bunny and let them know. I made them sell me another set costing 50% more for the same price as we had agreed the other day.

To be fair someone simply screwed up and had forgotten to take them off sale. But it's their mistake – they paid for it. You’re not even the victim of a mistake, but simple money grabbing.

I hope they’re going to be throwing in a D-box or Cameye at the very least.