mailin 0 #1 October 5, 2004 Just browsing the forums which I haven't had too much time to do lately... Came across this thread and it makes me wonder if women are actually held to this standard by men? I never 'played' the field really - been in the same relationship since I was 19 and I guess I should be glad. Dating must be tough if we're compared to 'pin up girls' Please say it ain't so guys! JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #2 October 5, 2004 I certainly dont expect women to look like airbrushed pin up pics, and I'm quite glad they don't. How ever the pics are nice eye candy and are just that. "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #3 October 5, 2004 Quotethe pics are nice eye candy and are just that. Phew! Thanks for restoring my faith NCrowe! JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #4 October 5, 2004 Edit: forgot "It ain't so..." it's like, I'd like a Ferarri, but I'll never own one. They're impractical and a bitch to insure... nice to look at though. My rationalisation... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DTOXX 0 #5 October 5, 2004 It ain't so. ------- D.T. Holder SIMstudy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #6 October 5, 2004 It ain't so. Not all of us are that shallow. Nice to look at, but when it comes to love,it's the inside we like most. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #7 October 5, 2004 Good to know Glad we're on pretty equal footing then - as I know girls that pick out guys for their looks in public places too JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 October 5, 2004 QuoteGood to know Glad we're on pretty equal footing then - as I know girls that pick out guys for their looks in public places too Jen Yeah... and I heard of one or 2 girls posting pics of guys as eye candy too... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #9 October 5, 2004 Ladies - It's not the size & shape, etc. It's the way you react when we give you some attention... None for Jon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGimp 0 #10 October 5, 2004 I have found that women of that stature, famous or semi famous models, tend to be to stuck up for my likeing. I used to date a girl who was into modeling and was in a few adds, well she change into someone i didnt like after that. So is what you see in that thread a standard for me? no. I tend to be attracted to many diffrnt types of wpmen. I told one reciently who kept making comments about her chest, or lake there of, I told her that its not what you have, its who you are that matters. My look on life, be happy being you and with who you are, if people dont like you, fuk em."Professor of Pimpology"~~~Bolas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #11 October 5, 2004 It ain’t so Jen. I think the most beautiful thing about any one is their personality. One thing that a lot of women forget is that all guys are different. We don’t all like the same things. Most of us are not attracted to the skinny pale death look. I have had a few girl friends that I thought were perfect the way they were, but they were the ones who would always say I don’t like this about my self or that. A lot of it is social pursuer. But I can really only speak for my self. There is woman and men who do want the models. It is not always the men who start drooling when they see some eye candy. Woman are guilty of it tooI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanofOZ 0 #12 October 5, 2004 Its just eye-candy. Not a realistic goal for us to achieve. I like to look, but still would rather have the one I do at home anyday.Oz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #13 October 5, 2004 They all want me. It is so hard to choose, so I only go out with supermodels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #14 October 5, 2004 QuoteJust browsing the forums which I haven't had too much time to do lately... Came across this thread and it makes me wonder if women are actually held to this standard by men? I never 'played' the field really - been in the same relationship since I was 19 and I guess I should be glad. Dating must be tough if we're compared to 'pin up girls' Please say it ain't so guys! Jen Considering more than a quarter of a million U.S. women and teenage girls get breast implants each year, I'm wondering if women are actually held to that standard ...by women. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #15 October 5, 2004 QuoteEdit: forgot "It ain't so..." it's like, I'd like a *Ferarri, but I'll never own one. They're impractical and a bitch to insure... nice to look at though. *and NO ONE seems to know how to repair them_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #16 October 5, 2004 Wow, I inspired a counter thread. Take solace, it is not so.... In fact I posted some somewhat opposite views here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1281399#1281399 Sometimes eye candy is just nice. Do I need it? No. Will I ever get it? Probably not. Do I think other women are beautiful and attractive? Hell, yeah (see other thread) I think it would be interesting to note, that a lot of times, as crwmike mentioned, women hold each other to standards we never thought of. Much like guys might compare other guys on macho stuff women never thought of. In reality, man may gawk, and yes you could argue against the objectification there it, but we are just being little boys. In reality, most of us seek different things. Just like the model at the end of the bar. Everyone wants to buy here a drink, they are falling over themselves getting to the bartender. The bar tender says, "Sit down, safe your money boys. Someone, somwhere, is tired of her shit." There is always more to it than looks. In fact, the recent acquaintance of mine that inspired the other thread can pull the "get ready in 5 minutes and go tear it up with the guys" thing. I have dated the opposite, and would much rather have the low makeup fun thing. The pin ups are just a glimpse at someone, who will never know more about than appearance, and in an occasional way that is appealing.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VanillaSkyGirl 6 #17 October 5, 2004 QuoteDating must be tough if we're compared to 'pin up girls' Hi Jen, I don't think that "pin up girls" look like "pin up girls" all the time. You know what I mean? They are often the most insecure women, too. Men love women with high self-esteem, which most of us do not have about our looks, so I understand your concerns. Sometimes, the older you get, the better...you come to an understanding of the fact that it's ok to not look like those women in magazines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #18 October 5, 2004 Quoteyou come to an understanding of the fact that it's ok to not look like those women in magazines. Exactly! Okay, my little babble. If I looked like a model, I would be insecure because you know that's why many guys want to date you. I don't, so I know that guys that want to date me want to do so for reasons other than my looks. It makes finding nice guys easier. Any guy will talk to the hottest girl there. Not all guys will talk to the cool woman there.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #19 October 5, 2004 Nice logic, although, I think the part about talking to hot women is false, at least for a lot of us. You girls are pretty intimidating, particularly the ones we find attractive. If there is not attraction, then is it just chatting. But if I see a girl that I think has some quality I am intrigued by, then I get shy. Breaking the ice can be the hardest part.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver30960 0 #20 October 5, 2004 Setting aside all the "emotional issues" and "more than skin deep" stuff and concentrating STRICTLY on the physical side of things, here's the way I sees it: I will never be a hardbody. I will never be in a Gap commercial. I will never be on a 100 foot billboard in Times Square selling Calvin Klein underpants (probably a good thing for mankind as a whole). I will never be on any major TV program. So it would be really unfair for me to expect any of that from my lady. On the other hand, I try to take care of myself, try to eat at least reasonably well, and work out whenever I can. I may not have much, but I try to take care of what I have and look my best. Yeah, part of that is for me, but part of that is for her too. What I appreciate is when she does the same: when she tries to take care of what God gave her in the same ways I do. It's about looking good for each other, sure; but there's more to it too. By taking care of ourselves (i.e. eating right and working out), we're setting ourselves up to be happy and healthy both today and in the future so that our time together can be as long and enjoyable as it can. Make sense? Elvisio "need a reason to drag my ass to the gym before sunrise" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyingferret 0 #21 October 5, 2004 Well said, very well said. I have a buddy that is super picky. He is constantly coming up with stuff like she has 'fat arms' and bizarro pickiness. Yet he is totally average. The way I see it, it is a two way street. If I get super picky, then she should too, I know I would be SOL.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 236 #22 October 5, 2004 QuoteJust browsing the forums which I haven't had too much time to do lately... Came across this thread and it makes me wonder if women are actually held to this standard by men? I never 'played' the field really - been in the same relationship since I was 19 and I guess I should be glad. Dating must be tough if we're compared to 'pin up girls' Please say it ain't so guys! Jen I could never figure out the fixation with big knockers in the US of A. My concept of perfection != huge. A long time ago I concluded that two groups of females were off limits for dating - models and actresses. Since looks are pivotal to a model's livelihood, it is an obsession necessary to the profession. An actress' living is dependent upon playing a role convincingly at the drop of a hat, so you never know quite who the hell you're with really. Both groups tend to be crazy, and a real pain to be around for any length of time. I must admit that getting stuck on an elevator with a group of Ford models was pretty intense. My father worked one floor below their agency, so going to visit him was often like being in a Robert Palmer video, and these women were cheerful, friendly, stomp-down gorgeous, and REALLY smelled delicious. As far as looks go, there is a threshold of attractiveness that must be met, beyond which attitude rules. There are some perfectly nice women that I simply can't imagine even kissing (or would rather not think about it). There are others that look good in photographs, but whose personalities are so repellent that they are entirely uninteresting. I have met many women that were the embodiment of perfection, each in her own way, and no two alike. I wouldn't worry about comparing against some kind of commercial standard. It doesn't mean much of anything, and just leads to unhappiness. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bobsled92 0 #23 October 5, 2004 I* LIKE CUUUURVY WOMEN! (& twinns!)_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyinghonu 0 #24 October 5, 2004 I sure as hell hope not. Some of those boobies was UGLY!!! I guess no one like proportioned women anymore . 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flyingferret 0 #16 October 5, 2004 Wow, I inspired a counter thread. Take solace, it is not so.... In fact I posted some somewhat opposite views here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1281399#1281399 Sometimes eye candy is just nice. Do I need it? No. Will I ever get it? Probably not. Do I think other women are beautiful and attractive? Hell, yeah (see other thread) I think it would be interesting to note, that a lot of times, as crwmike mentioned, women hold each other to standards we never thought of. Much like guys might compare other guys on macho stuff women never thought of. In reality, man may gawk, and yes you could argue against the objectification there it, but we are just being little boys. In reality, most of us seek different things. Just like the model at the end of the bar. Everyone wants to buy here a drink, they are falling over themselves getting to the bartender. The bar tender says, "Sit down, safe your money boys. Someone, somwhere, is tired of her shit." There is always more to it than looks. In fact, the recent acquaintance of mine that inspired the other thread can pull the "get ready in 5 minutes and go tear it up with the guys" thing. I have dated the opposite, and would much rather have the low makeup fun thing. The pin ups are just a glimpse at someone, who will never know more about than appearance, and in an occasional way that is appealing.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #17 October 5, 2004 QuoteDating must be tough if we're compared to 'pin up girls' Hi Jen, I don't think that "pin up girls" look like "pin up girls" all the time. You know what I mean? They are often the most insecure women, too. Men love women with high self-esteem, which most of us do not have about our looks, so I understand your concerns. Sometimes, the older you get, the better...you come to an understanding of the fact that it's ok to not look like those women in magazines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #18 October 5, 2004 Quoteyou come to an understanding of the fact that it's ok to not look like those women in magazines. Exactly! Okay, my little babble. If I looked like a model, I would be insecure because you know that's why many guys want to date you. I don't, so I know that guys that want to date me want to do so for reasons other than my looks. It makes finding nice guys easier. Any guy will talk to the hottest girl there. Not all guys will talk to the cool woman there.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #19 October 5, 2004 Nice logic, although, I think the part about talking to hot women is false, at least for a lot of us. You girls are pretty intimidating, particularly the ones we find attractive. If there is not attraction, then is it just chatting. But if I see a girl that I think has some quality I am intrigued by, then I get shy. Breaking the ice can be the hardest part.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #20 October 5, 2004 Setting aside all the "emotional issues" and "more than skin deep" stuff and concentrating STRICTLY on the physical side of things, here's the way I sees it: I will never be a hardbody. I will never be in a Gap commercial. I will never be on a 100 foot billboard in Times Square selling Calvin Klein underpants (probably a good thing for mankind as a whole). I will never be on any major TV program. So it would be really unfair for me to expect any of that from my lady. On the other hand, I try to take care of myself, try to eat at least reasonably well, and work out whenever I can. I may not have much, but I try to take care of what I have and look my best. Yeah, part of that is for me, but part of that is for her too. What I appreciate is when she does the same: when she tries to take care of what God gave her in the same ways I do. It's about looking good for each other, sure; but there's more to it too. By taking care of ourselves (i.e. eating right and working out), we're setting ourselves up to be happy and healthy both today and in the future so that our time together can be as long and enjoyable as it can. Make sense? Elvisio "need a reason to drag my ass to the gym before sunrise" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #21 October 5, 2004 Well said, very well said. I have a buddy that is super picky. He is constantly coming up with stuff like she has 'fat arms' and bizarro pickiness. Yet he is totally average. The way I see it, it is a two way street. If I get super picky, then she should too, I know I would be SOL.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #22 October 5, 2004 QuoteJust browsing the forums which I haven't had too much time to do lately... Came across this thread and it makes me wonder if women are actually held to this standard by men? I never 'played' the field really - been in the same relationship since I was 19 and I guess I should be glad. Dating must be tough if we're compared to 'pin up girls' Please say it ain't so guys! Jen I could never figure out the fixation with big knockers in the US of A. My concept of perfection != huge. A long time ago I concluded that two groups of females were off limits for dating - models and actresses. Since looks are pivotal to a model's livelihood, it is an obsession necessary to the profession. An actress' living is dependent upon playing a role convincingly at the drop of a hat, so you never know quite who the hell you're with really. Both groups tend to be crazy, and a real pain to be around for any length of time. I must admit that getting stuck on an elevator with a group of Ford models was pretty intense. My father worked one floor below their agency, so going to visit him was often like being in a Robert Palmer video, and these women were cheerful, friendly, stomp-down gorgeous, and REALLY smelled delicious. As far as looks go, there is a threshold of attractiveness that must be met, beyond which attitude rules. There are some perfectly nice women that I simply can't imagine even kissing (or would rather not think about it). There are others that look good in photographs, but whose personalities are so repellent that they are entirely uninteresting. I have met many women that were the embodiment of perfection, each in her own way, and no two alike. I wouldn't worry about comparing against some kind of commercial standard. It doesn't mean much of anything, and just leads to unhappiness. Blue skies, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #23 October 5, 2004 I* LIKE CUUUURVY WOMEN! (& twinns!)_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #24 October 5, 2004 I sure as hell hope not. Some of those boobies was UGLY!!! I guess no one like proportioned women anymore . "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #25 October 5, 2004 Winsor, nicely put. That was the line that seemed to get me in trouble in the hot skydiving chicks thread was the establishing personality vs. looks in skydivers, which some think are the same in skydivers. Interestingly, a decent percentage of those pictures come from Page 3, a UK site. Not sure on your country of origin, but I think big is more an individual preference than a national one. Personally, anywhere between B and DD is good with me. BUT, as this thread was started to point out there are many factors in attraction, and breast size is pretty close to the bottom of the list.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
