SkydiveNFlorida 0 #126 October 7, 2004 This : QuoteIf that's what lets you sleep at night, man. I have been to a strip club, the art of seduction isn't dependent on brains. There are a good many less-than-intelligent seductive women out there... that can dance and count tips. Was my reply to you. The rest was a general reply to the everyone, not just to you. I just didn't want to post twice, but now i've done it anyway. Anyhow, sorry for the confusion. I'm not sure what the rest of your post is about, selling weed to kids or something? -A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee846 0 #127 October 7, 2004 QuoteWas my reply to you. I'm not sure what the rest of your post is about, selling weed to kids or something? Ok. Got it! Sorry for misunderstanding too. So, i have to agree with you (and i've never beem disagreed with it): there are a lot of beautifull stupid chicks in the strip clubs. They are hot and as smart as a tree growing in front of my door. And that's perfect! No... THAT'S PERFECT!!! Ok. Here we go. But it's not about all the strippers. Finally it doesn't matter if myAnd i mean nothing writing about kids and weed -- it's just came with the music. Between two evils always pick theone never tried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #128 October 7, 2004 My first wife was a stripper... What a ride!!! lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #129 October 7, 2004 QuoteOK How about an opinion from a "Stripper" Which I happen to be, SURPRISE! Stripping is a job it shouldn't be how I am defined. Hey, I got no problem with you being a stripper... but I do notice that even though you say "stripping is a job it shouldn't be how I am defined," you go a long way toward demonstrating that it has a lot to do with you you define yourself. You talk about how immersed in it you are -- NOT that it's just a job to pay the bills -- and then make the counterintuitive claim that it doesn't define you. It seems more true that it does define you. The question then becomes, "Is that a bad thing in and of itself?" Probably not, but then that's something best judged on a case-by-case basis. I work as a proofreader, and I do my job extremely well because I am cut out for it. I don't take it home with me, and it doesn't define me. But people do notice that I am a "proofreader" even in my off time. That's not the job defining me; that's the plain fact that I'm a good proofreader because that's how my mind works, and I'd be doing it in my day-to-day life even if I had not gotten a job doing it. It sounds like you fancy yourself a performer more than a stripper. I don't think it's unfair for people to say that "stripping" is an occupation that a lot of ...unsavory girls gravitate to because it is where one can make lots of money without the bother of getting an education, and it's a "fun" lifestyle full of sex, drugs, liquor and partying. Let's not be disingenuous and deny that this is what it's mostly about. You may not fit the stereotype, but that's life. Look, there are computer programmers who are not pimple-faced, pencil-necked geeks, too. But that's the image that is "common" for them. Life goes on. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #130 October 7, 2004 Quotethe art of seduction isn't dependent on brains. That's your opinion, and I do respect it... but I also disagree. QuoteThere are a good many less-than-intelligent seductive women out there... Yep. There are a good many less-than-intelligent people out there in all walks of life. (Or at least, I think so... Hmm, maybe I am one of them and no one has told me??? ) QuoteI definitely would not consider it a respectable contribution to society I think that entertainment is a respectable contribution to society. (Just my opinion.) Perhaps my morals are different than yours in that I see stripping as a form of entertainment and you do not. And, as in any profession, some contribute more than others... So I think we should have an all-female meeting in Vegas to see the "Thunder from Down Under" show and do a little psychological research on the exotic dancer. We will have to interview them up close and personal of course, while they are wearing their undies, to get a proper feel for the size of their IQ's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #131 October 7, 2004 No, I would not marry a stripper. Yeah, it's just a job, but it shows me that she does not value certain things as I do -=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #132 October 7, 2004 QuoteShould I not rule out people who tell lame jokes because I should love them for who they are? IMO yes. Funny thing is that my wife was NOT what I had on my list of a dream partner and I was not what she had on hers. Sometimes life surprises you. You just have to be open to it. If you chose not to be then that's totally your choice. Good people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #133 October 7, 2004 Good post. QuoteI definitely would not consider it a respectable contribution to society Well, if that's how one will be judged, then I might as well start digging my own tomb! What we do benefit some and doesn't others. As long as one doesn't hurt someone else, have a sit, get a cocktail, and enjoy the ride! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #134 October 7, 2004 QuoteI would have no compunctions about marrying an ex stripper Well, like you said ... QuoteEducation is expensive ...and that's ducking the issue of placing a value on sanity. Get emotionally involved with a stripper and you will discover levels of pain heretofore undreamed of. Michael Comments about strippers: It's honest work and anyone who does honest work should be respected for it Low intelligence is not a defining quality. In fact, anedoctal experience leads me to suspect that the mean intelligence of strippers exceeds the general population. Most (and I mean the vast majority!) are fucked in the head concerning any relationships. Their job is their drug. It's the only aspect of their life where they have power and control. The interest and desire (expressed as cash money) from men is their sole barometer on their self-worth. Are there some who can do the job and remain above the addiction ...well, I guess. Kind of like, in theory, there are people who can fire up the crack pipe 50 times a night and remain elusive to it's grasp. What strippers do: They sell illusion (not unlike most relationships, actually). A good stripper will sum you up quickly. They are all about providing the illusion you seek. With a deep look, and an inviting smile, she will make you feel like a man. Your heart soars, the world is a more beautiful place and you are a stud!! She wants you ...you can see it in her eyes. It's a drug, really. All told it's better than alchohol, I guess. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #135 October 7, 2004 QuoteGood people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. Right on Ian! Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #136 October 7, 2004 Only if I met one that WASN'T NUTS! So far.......EVERY stripper I have ever met had some fairly HEFTY issues. If I met one that was "normal" and productive blah blah blah. Sure.....nothing wrong with being a stripper in and of itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #137 October 7, 2004 QuoteOnly if I met one that WASN'T NUTS! So far.......EVERY stripper I have ever met had some fairly HEFTY issues. If I met one that was "normal" and productive blah blah blah. Sure.....nothing wrong with being a stripper in and of itself. you know, i used to say the same thing about chicks in general Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #138 October 7, 2004 Quotei used to say the same thing about chicks in general [whisper] I still do.........[/whisper] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #139 October 7, 2004 QuoteThey sell illusion (not unlike most relationships, actually). A good stripper will sum you up quickly. They are all about providing the illusion you seek. With a deep look, and an inviting smile, she will make you feel like a man. Your heart soars, the world is a more beautiful place and you are a stud!! One of my fav conversations: "...this guy came in tonight. He was easily 40 lbs overweight, big pot-belly. He said that women didn't find him sexy at all because he was so out of shape. I told him that he must have a lot of muscle underneath to carry all the extra weight. If he worked on losing some of it, he would be a hunk with all his muscles showing." That guy left feeling good, she left with his money. Everybody needs a little illusion, now and then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #140 October 7, 2004 QuoteThat guy left feeling good, she left with his money. Everybody needs a little illusion, now and then. Awww........what a nice girl. A guy I work with owns a titty bar in Columbus, OH. Damn at the funny stories he has. We were bullshitting one day and I said "Strippers are cool but they are all NUTS!" He says "Yeah......gotta get em in the first month or so before they lose their mind." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #141 October 7, 2004 Hi - I haven't read further than this yet but wanted to reply here to this question (and discussion between Val and Shotgun: QuoteSo... you meet some nice guy at the dropzone... you end up doing a few jumps with him and he hangs around afterwards for a beer... then you end up having an intellectually stimulating conversation with him about the arts, religion, women's rights (or whatever you like to talk about), and he is very funny and smart and you are starting to like him... then you get around to discussing what you do for a living and it turns out he is an exotic dancer... At this point, despite all the things you like about him, would you turn down a date with him just because of his career? Or would it at least be worth getting to know him a little better? I agree with BOTH of you. Everyone has criteria for choosing a mate. Some won't date whuffos, some won't date older women, some won't date long distance, some won't date self-righteous boring people and some won't date strippers. It doesn't HAVE to be a judgment - it can be simple discrimination. To answer the above question about meeting a great guy at the dz then finding out he's a stripper - hell no would I date him. But I wouldn't necessarily think less of him. I just know myself well enough to know I'd be trying to change him every minute we spent together. There are many jobs that would be a deal breaker for me that have nothing to do with the character of a person specifically. I think it's rare - no matter what you do - to be able to totally compartmentalize your professional life from your personal life. I'm not sure I would want to be with someone who has that ability. I think I'd need to be with the 'whole' person. If I had to tolerate my mate's job, I don't think we could truly be together. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78RATS 0 #142 October 7, 2004 Quote you know, i used to say the same thing about chicks in general but then he met VSG... Rat for Life - Fly till I die When them stupid ass bitches ask why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #143 October 7, 2004 QuoteTo answer the above question about meeting a great guy at the dz then finding out he's a stripper - hell no would I date him. That's what Val said too, and I completely understand. And, as you mentioned, if you know right away that you would always be trying to change him then obviously it would never work. I guess I don't personally have any criteria regarding what my husband's job is, other than I wouldn't want to be with someone who was a thief or whose job was dishonest or hurtful to others in any kind of way. As I mentioned in my reply to Val, I had problems in a previous relationship where his job required him to travel almost six months out of the year - but in that situation, I really don't think it was his job that was the problem; it was a conflict in our personalities that we couldn't make it work together. Had this been someone else with the same job whose ideas were more similar to mine, then it might have worked out. To me, love doesn't seem to be a voluntary reaction. When I moved here to California, I swore I never wanted to date another skydiver again... And now here I am married to one. Basically I met someone who I had a chemistry with beyond anything I've ever had with anyone else... He was a skydiver, which I did not want, but I ultimately decided it was worth the compromise to be with him. And the fact that he is a skydiver has brought up all the issues that made me not want to date a skydiver in the first place, but there are issues in every relationship... and either you work through them or you don't. Anyhow, I'm not trying to convince anyone to date a stripper. But from my experience, love is rare, and you never know where you'll find it. And I think Ian said it best: QuoteGood people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflybella 0 #144 October 7, 2004 QuoteBut from my experience, love is rare, and you never know where you'll find it. And I think Ian said it best: Good people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. I also believe that there are exceptions to every rule. I hope I was clear when I said that someome's job or appearance or age or whatever isn't always telling of who they are. If I dated a stripper (thinking of long-term commitment), I would either expect to start to like what he does - or that he will soon quit what he does. Personally, I think going into a relationship expecting one or the other to change is not the best odds. I agree with you and Ian - you can't always tell what you'll find just beneath the surface and it's generally better to be open to things rather than to have preconceived ideas... But I also agree with Val - there are MANY fish in the sea, if you know you like the purple ones, why try to catch a green one. To the original question: Would I marry a stripper? Pure speculation: based on what I 'know' and how I feel now? No. Add some conjecture: makes me the happiest person on earth - enlightens me to the joys of stripping? Quite possibly. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #145 October 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteGood people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. Right on Ian! Who woulda thunk South Africans were such philosophers???? Rock on Ian - and give your little stripper a hug from me Jump ------------Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ianmdrennan 2 #146 October 7, 2004 QuoteWho woulda thunk South Africans were such philosophers???? I read it on a cereal box Quote little stripper a hug from me Likewise my friend. I hope you crazy folk are doing well on the other side of the planet. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ianmdrennan 2 #147 October 7, 2004 QuotePersonally, I think going into a relationship expecting one or the other to change is not the best odds. Words to live by. My mom (yeah yeah rag away ) gave me a wonderful piece of advice when I was younger that served me well. She said "Don't look at all the things you want to change or think you can 'make better' about your partner. Instead look at the things you don't like about them and ask yourself 'Can I live with this the rest of my life'." It's been an interesting thread to read and be a part of. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoysPlayThing 0 #148 October 7, 2004 "Would you marry a stripper?" _______________________________________________________________ Nope _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #149 October 7, 2004 QuoteOnly if I met one that WASN'T NUTS! So far.......EVERY stripper I have ever met had some fairly HEFTY issues. If I met one that was "normal" and productive blah blah blah. Sure.....nothing wrong with being a stripper in and of itself. DING DING DING DING....WE HAVE A WEINER!!! Clay, you tried to tell me this before, but I didn't listen. Thought I found the not nuts one. Turns out she was more nuts than most, just really diabolical about hiding it until she got me deep inside the trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiva1998 0 #150 October 7, 2004 Quoteyou go a long way toward demonstrating that it has a lot to do with you you define yourself. You should proofread before posting! Sorry! Couldn't resist!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 6 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
freeflybella 0 #144 October 7, 2004 QuoteBut from my experience, love is rare, and you never know where you'll find it. And I think Ian said it best: Good people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. I also believe that there are exceptions to every rule. I hope I was clear when I said that someome's job or appearance or age or whatever isn't always telling of who they are. If I dated a stripper (thinking of long-term commitment), I would either expect to start to like what he does - or that he will soon quit what he does. Personally, I think going into a relationship expecting one or the other to change is not the best odds. I agree with you and Ian - you can't always tell what you'll find just beneath the surface and it's generally better to be open to things rather than to have preconceived ideas... But I also agree with Val - there are MANY fish in the sea, if you know you like the purple ones, why try to catch a green one. To the original question: Would I marry a stripper? Pure speculation: based on what I 'know' and how I feel now? No. Add some conjecture: makes me the happiest person on earth - enlightens me to the joys of stripping? Quite possibly. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #145 October 7, 2004 QuoteQuoteGood people are hard to find, and they often come in the most surprising packages. Right on Ian! Who woulda thunk South Africans were such philosophers???? Rock on Ian - and give your little stripper a hug from me Jump ------------Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #146 October 7, 2004 QuoteWho woulda thunk South Africans were such philosophers???? I read it on a cereal box Quote little stripper a hug from me Likewise my friend. I hope you crazy folk are doing well on the other side of the planet. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #147 October 7, 2004 QuotePersonally, I think going into a relationship expecting one or the other to change is not the best odds. Words to live by. My mom (yeah yeah rag away ) gave me a wonderful piece of advice when I was younger that served me well. She said "Don't look at all the things you want to change or think you can 'make better' about your partner. Instead look at the things you don't like about them and ask yourself 'Can I live with this the rest of my life'." It's been an interesting thread to read and be a part of. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoysPlayThing 0 #148 October 7, 2004 "Would you marry a stripper?" _______________________________________________________________ Nope _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #149 October 7, 2004 QuoteOnly if I met one that WASN'T NUTS! So far.......EVERY stripper I have ever met had some fairly HEFTY issues. If I met one that was "normal" and productive blah blah blah. Sure.....nothing wrong with being a stripper in and of itself. DING DING DING DING....WE HAVE A WEINER!!! Clay, you tried to tell me this before, but I didn't listen. Thought I found the not nuts one. Turns out she was more nuts than most, just really diabolical about hiding it until she got me deep inside the trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiva1998 0 #150 October 7, 2004 Quoteyou go a long way toward demonstrating that it has a lot to do with you you define yourself. You should proofread before posting! Sorry! Couldn't resist!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
