gjhdiver 0 #76 October 6, 2004 QuoteCould have been the lights, might've been the outfit or perhaps it was the booty, six pack and boobs but I think I'm in love. Yeah. Why not ? Hell, I've done enough of them in my time to know that they're just like everyone else, just easier to get naked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #77 October 6, 2004 Quotewhat the hell is that picture supposed to be??? You said post some pictures. I did post some picture. You should have been more specific dear . Quote http://www.thunderfromdownunder.com/index2.php As a man, I feel used and cheapen by this objectification of our bodacious bods.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RkyMtnHigh 0 #78 October 6, 2004 Quote Ya never know what can happen to you. Love is love . Especially if she owns a DZ, Twin Otter etc. If I recall Missy is single _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #79 October 6, 2004 Quoteask phillykev. __ I say go for it. Why should I be the only one to suffer through the hell that comes with it. Party with a stripper? Sure. Spend more than one day in a row with one? Never again!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #80 October 6, 2004 QuoteIn Austin, I'd say about half of the strippers are not caught up in the lifestyle and are using it productively to put themselves through college or while they are learning another skill. I live in Tampa. There is a lifestyle and an industry. The lifestyle involves making lots of money, spending it with abandon, partying every night, and sleeping as late as you wish. Money with no responsibilities (kind of like being one of the Kennedys ). The trap occurs when someone thinks of getting out of it. - $1500 a week to $600 - sitting at a desk being bored vs drinking on the job - having guys constantly hit on you and offer you money, trips, fun vs nothing. - flexible work hours vs regimented hours/rules. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #81 October 6, 2004 QuoteThe trap occurs when someone thinks of getting out of it. - $1500 a week to $600 - sitting at a desk being bored vs drinking on the job - having guys constantly hit on you and offer you money, trips, fun vs nothing. - flexible work hours vs regimented hours/rules. Yeah, I think the transition is sometimes difficult - especially the pay cut. The only friend of mine who sort of missed it was the one who became a network administrator - I think she missed the physical activity while working and the high energy atmosphere, but she started her new career with a pretty high salary so I don't think the money was an issue for her. None of the friends I mentioned ever drank on the job, and I think they all still get hit on by men as much as they would like to. The photographer and the yoga instructor still have pretty flexible schedules, but they do probably make less money than when they were stripping. They seem to be happy though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #82 October 6, 2004 Is she a stripper too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fireflytx 0 #83 October 6, 2004 OK How about an opinion from a "Stripper" Which I happen to be, SURPRISE! I love how my job defines the person I am to everyone, no actually I don't I am a bit offended by a lot of this shit on the thread. Yes, the majority of Strippers are not bright, do not realize they have no future, etc. I know, I hear it in the dressing room all the time and it drives me crazy. But the exceptional people that happen to strip for a living are some of the brightest people you will ever meet. Let me tell you a bit of background history. I have been a Merchandise Analyst for a huge Steel Corporation, a sales person in a provision company and a personalized investigator at Dun & Bradstreet, and the list goes on. All extremly reputable jobs. I HAVE NEVER BEEN TREATED SO HORRIBLY IN MY LIFE AS I HAD BEEN IN THESE CORPORATIONS. And with my acting and all the little extra stuff (fire dancing, etc etc ) "Real" jobs don't let me do it, instead make me Fvcking miserable cause all my life is get up go to my crappy desk job go home and go to bed early so I have to repeat my crappy desk job every day just to scrape by. Miserable existence if you ask me. Ok so I decide to dance cause I can't get myself out of the damn hole I created with these "normal" jobs that should have paid me enough to live, but didn't so I start dancing. Why not? I figure I love burlesque! I can turn this into a great show. I learned to dance on the pole like Cirque Du Soleil, which in turn has got me in movies with Crispin Glover and Jason Lee, I performed for Jane's Addiction and even Cirque itself. No not cause I am a "stripper" cause I have talent, I am a true artist of exotic arts and I am not the only one out there. Even girls that aren’t as well at performing do their job very professionally and work for a better life. Ok, on the comments about not having dignity, morals "how can you have those men stare and say things to you" blah blah blah You don't think that happens at real jobs, at least these men are saying shit to my face and not behind my back in an office. Yes, the same shit happens in an office but it is more dishonest. The female form is not disgusting and it is beautiful so why not show it. How many of you run around naked at the DZ for free just cause it is fun to be naked? (if you don’t, I am sorry you feel so inhibited) I hear how these men talk the work for corporations, they come and see me and let me tell you, they are the most disgusting bastards that come in the clubs, they are the dirty ones, the ones with the comments, the ones trying to take the stripper girls home. Could it be cause there life is miserable? But I have also met some great men in the club, they are honest don't mean any harm and just want some lovely company for the evening in the club, cause there are no strings attached. My favorite people that come in are the couples, they are the people loving life, and marriage and having fun and they will be together forever. And my boss is one of the greatest human beings I have ever met. If I ever need anything I go to him he is like my dad away from home. As to the comments “no future" "party lifestyle" Well, that happens too, I bet it happens in offices. Ever hear of the term "laid off"? Well, I don't get laid off. But I know I can't dance forever, I am starting to invest in real estate, I have already bought my own home and live here by myself. I teach a class for strippers on how to do their job better and teach them how to make an honest living and to have a future and I also teach pole dancing and polaerobics. And I am going to be running the U.S. competition for this site www.misspoledance.com I am also making instructional videos that is going to be hugely distributed nationwide and should bring in a good chunk of change. oh yeah, ever see my website on the other things I do www.nocturnalcreationsonline.com You should all really check it out even though I need to update it a bit. It has my sewing, my acting resume, Fire performances and a TV show I am on. To sum it up, stripping is where my life took me, I am a very responsible, intelligent person that has no schedule, makes great money, have a seriously fit body with a six pack, can do great performances, totally have a future, not have a job that makes me miserable and SKYDIVE A LOT! And the dancing actually helps with my freestyle. So yeah, I think someone will want to marry me someday. I am also more domestic than most women I know. HELL I AM A DAMN GOOD COOK! And I have a pole in my living and closet full of great outfits for special private performances. YEAH AND I LIKE TO FVCKING PARTY MY ASS OFF! DON”T YOU GUYS????? Stripping is a job it shouldn't be how I am defined. For all of you with negative comments about the profession, lighten up, open your closed minds! WE are skydivers! Don’t you wish Wuffos that don’t understand what you do jumping out of a plane? PS Read my sig lines below"Well behaved women rarely make history" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #84 October 6, 2004 Thank you for that post. Hopefully it will make some people realize that when they make such snide comments, they are insulting actual real people who might even be reading this forum. And hey, I want to take one of your classes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #85 October 6, 2004 so the majority of the women posting in this thread have spent their time ragging on female strippers... lets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? smells like a cat fight brewing in here.....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #86 October 6, 2004 Quotewould the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? Nope, since those attitudes only come out when it suits the people that prefer to have those attitudes. It comes down to insecurity and the desire to have an edge or an advantage over someone. Actually, its pretty pethetic and is another reason why I don't associate with religious folks anymore. Simply because there's a lot of that in religious folks, but as shown, quite a bit in non-religious folks as well.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites misskriss 0 #87 October 6, 2004 Damn girl, you are busy!! Great website.. very cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #88 October 6, 2004 Quotelets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? That's how I answered the question (ie, would I marry a Chippendale.) It's not holier than thou. What a person does for a living does say a lot about them. It's what they choose to do with a good chunk of their time. I like to be intellectually stimulated at work (because that's where I am for 40 hrs a week), so I want someone who has the same. (Note...part of the reason I'm leaving my job is because it is dull and and not stimulating me enough.)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zee 0 #89 October 6, 2004 I have to agree about the business men that hang out at titty bars - I worked as a bouncer at a strip club when I was in college and the suits were by far the most trouble. Always insulting the dancers and waiting in the parking lot for the girls after the show. Not many of the girls were as industrious as you. I'd say most of them were just trying to pay for school and make a better life for themselves. Hey, if it works for you then go for it - I've seen your show at the DZ a few times and I thought it was pretty cool. I just had to stay back a few feet so my face didn't catch on fire Peace, Z Action©Sports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #90 October 6, 2004 Quoteso the majority of the women posting in this thread have spent their time ragging on female strippers... lets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? Umm, I think the women who were insulting the female strippers were insulting the male strippers equally (or that's how I read it anyway). I would "tie the knot" with this one (assuming we hit it off)... http://www.thunderfromdownunder.com/redirect.php?pg=12&caller=cast_detail Yummy........ I wonder if he's good at tying knots? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #91 October 6, 2004 You mentioned how many of us have been naked when we were partying at the DZ and how it feels good. Yes true we also have sex but we don’t do it for money. I think that’s is my main issue with it for ME. You life is your choice. But I think you are being unfair to say we are closed minded. I don’t see how me not wanting my wife to be naked in front of strange men who are stuffing money down her panties is being closed minded. There is many ways to make money that I consider as not moral. I think me and some others don’t view money as the only way to measure success. Good luck.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #92 October 6, 2004 i have issues with people who define themselves and others simply by what they do for money... its only money.... I care far more about what you do when you own your own time... that is what defines you as a person for me.... a job is just that, a job... if your one of the lucky few who happens to love what they do for work then that is lovely, but you are the exception, not the rule..... i try not to live my life looking for the exceptions...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #93 October 6, 2004 Quotei have issues with people who define themselves and others simply by what they do for money... I don't define people by it, but it is a huge part of a person. I also don't define people by their hobbies (ie, skydiver/whuffo), their hair, etc.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #94 October 6, 2004 i disagree. I think it has very little to do with the person and more to do with what society expects of you... good job, nice house, 2.5 kids eventually etc... i'd much rather spend my time with someone who recognizes that you have to make some sacrifices to live in the modern world and realizes that a job is a means to an end... your hobbies say much more about you as a person... there are few social forces driving you to skydive for example...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #95 October 6, 2004 First, I would like to apologize if any of my comments offended you. They were directed at any one individually. As I said, there are Exceptions. I was making some broad generalization based off my experience working 10 hours a day 5 to 7 days a week in various Strip Clubs around Atlanta for over 3 Years. As a DJ, I had to put up with 30 to 50 different women each night each with their own personal crisis of the moment and the experience left me somewhat jaded. I saw 100`s of girls come through the clubs with similar attitudes to yours. A couple of them were able to put some money back and eventually move on to other careers or otherwise achieve their goals but most did not. And YES, Some of the most intelligent women I have ever met were dancers at one time or another. Sometimes I do miss partying all night, having tons of cash to throw around (cause I am just going to get more tomorrow!) and constantly being surrounded by gorgeous women but it really wasnt worth it in the end. Too many Head Cases to deal with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #96 October 6, 2004 Quotea job is just that, a job In all seriousness, I dont really agree. I think how one does his/her job does define at least partly that person. That goes for stripping, selling, etc.... I sleazy salesman has less class that a women who strips and who keeps her head on her shoulder doing what she does.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #97 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuotelets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? That's how I answered the question (ie, would I marry a Chippendale.) It's not holier than thou. What a person does for a living does say a lot about them. It's what they choose to do with a good chunk of their time. I like to be intellectually stimulated at work (because that's where I am for 40 hrs a week), so I want someone who has the same. (Note...part of the reason I'm leaving my job is because it is dull and and not stimulating me enough.) So... you meet some nice guy at the dropzone... you end up doing a few jumps with him and he hangs around afterwards for a beer... then you end up having an intellectually stimulating conversation with him about the arts, religion, women's rights (or whatever you like to talk about), and he is very funny and smart and you are starting to like him... then you get around to discussing what you do for a living and it turns out he is an exotic dancer... At this point, despite all the things you like about him, would you turn down a date with him just because of his career? Or would it at least be worth getting to know him a little better? Also, do you think that the bellydancer who you recently posted a link to has lower standards than you do because she is using her body to make a living? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #98 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuotea job is just that, a job In all seriousness, I dont really agree. I think how one does his/her job does define at least partly that person. That goes for stripping, selling, etc.... I sleazy salesman has less class that a women who strips and who keeps her head on her shoulder doing what she does. ok this i agree with, but its not really what i said either... HOW you do anything says alot about you...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shotgun 1 #99 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuotea job is just that, a job In all seriousness, I dont really agree. I think how one does his/her job does define at least partly that person. That goes for stripping, selling, etc.... I sleazy salesman has less class that a women who strips and who keeps her head on her shoulder doing what she does. I agree... And someone who does not take pride in what they do for a living and make an effort to do a good job (no matter what it is they do) - probably has poor ethics in their other relationships as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #100 October 6, 2004 Quoteprobably has poor ethics in their other relationships as well. I think you just insulted 9/10th of the people who waste time on dz.com. Me included. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 4 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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Zenister 0 #85 October 6, 2004 so the majority of the women posting in this thread have spent their time ragging on female strippers... lets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? smells like a cat fight brewing in here.....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #86 October 6, 2004 Quotewould the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? Nope, since those attitudes only come out when it suits the people that prefer to have those attitudes. It comes down to insecurity and the desire to have an edge or an advantage over someone. Actually, its pretty pethetic and is another reason why I don't associate with religious folks anymore. Simply because there's a lot of that in religious folks, but as shown, quite a bit in non-religious folks as well.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #87 October 6, 2004 Damn girl, you are busy!! Great website.. very cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #88 October 6, 2004 Quotelets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? That's how I answered the question (ie, would I marry a Chippendale.) It's not holier than thou. What a person does for a living does say a lot about them. It's what they choose to do with a good chunk of their time. I like to be intellectually stimulated at work (because that's where I am for 40 hrs a week), so I want someone who has the same. (Note...part of the reason I'm leaving my job is because it is dull and and not stimulating me enough.)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zee 0 #89 October 6, 2004 I have to agree about the business men that hang out at titty bars - I worked as a bouncer at a strip club when I was in college and the suits were by far the most trouble. Always insulting the dancers and waiting in the parking lot for the girls after the show. Not many of the girls were as industrious as you. I'd say most of them were just trying to pay for school and make a better life for themselves. Hey, if it works for you then go for it - I've seen your show at the DZ a few times and I thought it was pretty cool. I just had to stay back a few feet so my face didn't catch on fire Peace, Z Action©Sports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #90 October 6, 2004 Quoteso the majority of the women posting in this thread have spent their time ragging on female strippers... lets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? Umm, I think the women who were insulting the female strippers were insulting the male strippers equally (or that's how I read it anyway). I would "tie the knot" with this one (assuming we hit it off)... http://www.thunderfromdownunder.com/redirect.php?pg=12&caller=cast_detail Yummy........ I wonder if he's good at tying knots? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #91 October 6, 2004 You mentioned how many of us have been naked when we were partying at the DZ and how it feels good. Yes true we also have sex but we don’t do it for money. I think that’s is my main issue with it for ME. You life is your choice. But I think you are being unfair to say we are closed minded. I don’t see how me not wanting my wife to be naked in front of strange men who are stuffing money down her panties is being closed minded. There is many ways to make money that I consider as not moral. I think me and some others don’t view money as the only way to measure success. Good luck.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #92 October 6, 2004 i have issues with people who define themselves and others simply by what they do for money... its only money.... I care far more about what you do when you own your own time... that is what defines you as a person for me.... a job is just that, a job... if your one of the lucky few who happens to love what they do for work then that is lovely, but you are the exception, not the rule..... i try not to live my life looking for the exceptions...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #93 October 6, 2004 Quotei have issues with people who define themselves and others simply by what they do for money... I don't define people by it, but it is a huge part of a person. I also don't define people by their hobbies (ie, skydiver/whuffo), their hair, etc.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #94 October 6, 2004 i disagree. I think it has very little to do with the person and more to do with what society expects of you... good job, nice house, 2.5 kids eventually etc... i'd much rather spend my time with someone who recognizes that you have to make some sacrifices to live in the modern world and realizes that a job is a means to an end... your hobbies say much more about you as a person... there are few social forces driving you to skydive for example...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #95 October 6, 2004 First, I would like to apologize if any of my comments offended you. They were directed at any one individually. As I said, there are Exceptions. I was making some broad generalization based off my experience working 10 hours a day 5 to 7 days a week in various Strip Clubs around Atlanta for over 3 Years. As a DJ, I had to put up with 30 to 50 different women each night each with their own personal crisis of the moment and the experience left me somewhat jaded. I saw 100`s of girls come through the clubs with similar attitudes to yours. A couple of them were able to put some money back and eventually move on to other careers or otherwise achieve their goals but most did not. And YES, Some of the most intelligent women I have ever met were dancers at one time or another. Sometimes I do miss partying all night, having tons of cash to throw around (cause I am just going to get more tomorrow!) and constantly being surrounded by gorgeous women but it really wasnt worth it in the end. Too many Head Cases to deal with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #96 October 6, 2004 Quotea job is just that, a job In all seriousness, I dont really agree. I think how one does his/her job does define at least partly that person. That goes for stripping, selling, etc.... I sleazy salesman has less class that a women who strips and who keeps her head on her shoulder doing what she does.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #97 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuotelets reverse the question... would you marry a chippendale type etc..assuming you two really hit it off, or would the 'hollier than thou' attitudes come out there as well??? That's how I answered the question (ie, would I marry a Chippendale.) It's not holier than thou. What a person does for a living does say a lot about them. It's what they choose to do with a good chunk of their time. I like to be intellectually stimulated at work (because that's where I am for 40 hrs a week), so I want someone who has the same. (Note...part of the reason I'm leaving my job is because it is dull and and not stimulating me enough.) So... you meet some nice guy at the dropzone... you end up doing a few jumps with him and he hangs around afterwards for a beer... then you end up having an intellectually stimulating conversation with him about the arts, religion, women's rights (or whatever you like to talk about), and he is very funny and smart and you are starting to like him... then you get around to discussing what you do for a living and it turns out he is an exotic dancer... At this point, despite all the things you like about him, would you turn down a date with him just because of his career? Or would it at least be worth getting to know him a little better? Also, do you think that the bellydancer who you recently posted a link to has lower standards than you do because she is using her body to make a living? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #98 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuotea job is just that, a job In all seriousness, I dont really agree. I think how one does his/her job does define at least partly that person. That goes for stripping, selling, etc.... I sleazy salesman has less class that a women who strips and who keeps her head on her shoulder doing what she does. ok this i agree with, but its not really what i said either... HOW you do anything says alot about you...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #99 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuotea job is just that, a job In all seriousness, I dont really agree. I think how one does his/her job does define at least partly that person. That goes for stripping, selling, etc.... I sleazy salesman has less class that a women who strips and who keeps her head on her shoulder doing what she does. I agree... And someone who does not take pride in what they do for a living and make an effort to do a good job (no matter what it is they do) - probably has poor ethics in their other relationships as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #100 October 6, 2004 Quoteprobably has poor ethics in their other relationships as well. I think you just insulted 9/10th of the people who waste time on dz.com. Me included. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
