Faber 0 #1 October 14, 2004 whats the rules? can you camp near anywere you want or do you need premission,or can you only camp at special places? Trying to plan a trip to US next summer,and as mony means somthing to me i desided that i could live in tent if posibleJust not sure about the rules... Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #2 October 14, 2004 You can live in a tent. I would suggest finding a campground, which is fairly easy to do. Its illegal to camp on private property, and I would not suggest trying to get away with this anywhere in the South or in Texas. Check this site out. www.koa.com If you come through Nashville, you can camp in my basement. Its actually quite luxurious.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,555 #3 October 14, 2004 In the vast majority of the US, you camp in designated campgrounds (or dropzones). There is a fee for most of them, which helps to pay for bathrooms, showers, and things like that. People are very defensive about property rights in the US, and I would strongly suggest not camping anywhere that wasn't a formal campground, where you didn't have specific permission. City parks, roadside rest areas, close to highways, all of those places are reasonably likely to end up with you arrested if you camp there. In some parts of the country, unwelcome camping could lead to your being escorted off at gunpoint by an irate owner (we take our gun rights seriously here too, some more seriously than others). Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites davedlg 0 #4 October 14, 2004 Depends on where you are in the US..large parts of the Western US are on public lands and you can camp almost anywhere you please. In the East...it's often difficult to find a place to camp and you a have to settle for and pay for a private campground. Complicating the issue is the type of public land...you can be on anything from a National Park, to forest service, to BLM and the rules are different for all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grue 1 #5 October 14, 2004 I'm going to camp at my DZ for Halloween weekend I think, just to get as many jumps in as I can Gonna be COLD at night cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #6 October 14, 2004 cheers guys In genneral how are people if you ask them if you can camp on their proberty(just like for the night sleep) I cant belive the big difference(but some how understand it) oh.. if you see a frighted kid(ME) in a tent,only having 2 rigs and a sleeping bag,then please dont shoot me,i wear no weapons Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Girlfalldown 0 #7 October 14, 2004 You can also camp under most big city freeway overpasses and on sidewalks throughout San Francisco. I think it's legal since the same tent has been set up on the same sidewalk near my house for the last 2 weeks. Heck you don't even need a tent. Just a sleeping bag and doorway will do. If you sit in front of it and hold a sign that says something like "abducted by aliens this morning and missed lunch, can you spare some change?" you'll end up making more money then I do in a day. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,555 #8 October 14, 2004 QuoteIn genneral how are people if you ask them if you can camp on their proberty(just like for the night sleep) Well, um, I live in a subdivision (houses, small front yards). I'd think you were very weird . Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaoskitty 0 #9 October 14, 2004 I swear the panhandlers in Austin make around $300 per day.. tax free. I've considered it, but I'm not skinny enough to look starved and I dont like to be dirty all the time. edit: yeah I agree with Wendy. If someone asked to camp out on my front lawn I'd think something was weird too. Not to mention most private properties (along roads and highways) are fenced. Just get a campground guide and plan ahead. With all of the state and national parks, and DROP ZONES, you should have no trouble finding places to camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #10 October 14, 2004 Quotelike "abducted by aliens this morning and missed lunch, can you spare some change?" you'll end up making more money then I do in a day. HEY! Gimmie back my sign!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #11 October 14, 2004 If you can get your hands on the right sort of vehicle, you could always use that to sleep in. I don't do it often, but I have slept in my car at the Perrine Bridge's visitors center as well as some other select locations. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites indyz 1 #12 October 14, 2004 Quote I swear the panhandlers in Austin make around $300 per day.. tax free. In his autobiography, a New York City cop mentions how he once tried to slip a homeless informant $20. The panhandler was embarrassed and had to explain that he makes upwards of a dollar per minute during rush hour. The cop realized that this homeless guy probably had double his annual income, but he dumped it all on a $200/day crack habit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #13 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf you can get your hands on the right sort of vehicle, you could always use that to sleep in. I don't do it often, but I have slept in my car at the Perrine Bridge's visitors center as well as some other select locations. is that legal? to sleep in your car,i ask becours as i know you cant here but you can put up your tent near anywere you want aslong as you leave the place as it were as you arrived... I like the mony thing,but im not sure you guys would like it as it probaly would mean that i would stay even longer(naahhh max 3 weeks,i cant be whith out my kids for longer). Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaoskitty 0 #14 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf you can get your hands on the right sort of vehicle, you could always use that to sleep in. I don't do it often, but I have slept in my car at the Perrine Bridge's visitors center as well as some other select locations. I do that all the time at the dz and at boogies. I have a full sized truck and I fit all nice and cozy in the back seat. Saves me the trouble of a tent which is on the cold hard ground anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #15 October 14, 2004 QuoteI have a full sized truck and I fit all nice and cozy in the back seat. Saves me the trouble of a tent which is on the cold hard ground anyway. so i guess ill need to convince you to drive me arround as im over thanks for the help guys ps. as im no longer is a skydiver(yes i sold my gear and stopped paying to DFU(like USPA,just in DK),im not sure they want me arround at dz´s Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #16 October 14, 2004 I have my bad ass van set up so that I can sleep any where I want.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Keith 0 #17 October 14, 2004 Most people would not let you camp in their yard unless they know you. We're very sue happy here and most people would be affraid you would hurt yourself while on their land and sue them. If you're planning on stopping in San Diego let me know, I'll set you up. Blues,Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloudseeker2001 0 #18 October 14, 2004 Quotecheers guys In genneral how are people if you ask them if you can camp on their proberty(just like for the night sleep) I cant belive the big difference(but some how understand it) oh.. if you see a frighted kid(ME) in a tent,only having 2 rigs and a sleeping bag,then please dont shoot me,i wear no weapons It has been my experience that people who own private property do not like people camping out even if it is for a few hours. I have seen signs on private property that read something to the affect of....please close gates behind you. Which implies they do not mind you camping or hiking on their property. In many public land areas that are next to private property, signs will be very obvious! Really best bet is state and national parks. Some are better.....personally I like the more primitive camping areas. Your best bet is to research the areas you would like to visit. Many areas in the Southwest are BLM land and you can almost do whatever you like, but they are making new laws every year to protect the lands.....some laws for example: if you are camping in the desert on BLM land, you must have(and use) a portable toilet....(2)in some forrest no motorized anything is allowed.....stuff like that. When you get to a park, along with the fee comes a nice packet of info you should read! About camping and hiking in remote areas.....the local people are not always friendly with outsiders and sometimes it is not safe to camp-especially in a tent. I have seen camping areas in or near small towns that were full of crackheads and it would be insane to tent camp there! Beware of bears and mountain lions and research how to avoid and protect yourself from these animals! And too, you had better have some kind of weapon to protect yourself......if you yell out, "I have no weapons only 2 rigs" that is just not going to do it! See the movie Deliverance! Edit:Some places will not let you sleep in your car. And highway rest areas are not always the best of places either! See the movie Something About Mary! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #19 October 14, 2004 Do your research up-front so you know what's available where you are traveling. There are commercial campgrounds, which usually charge from $10 to $15 per night for a tent campsite. You get a small patch of grass, and access to the bathrooms, showers, laundry room, etc. These are usually easy to find around major interstate highways and cities. Also check out the numerous state and national parks. Most of those provide camping for a fee ranging from free, to $10 per night. Same deal with a patch of land and showers. Facilities vary widely. Some are "primitive" camp sites, providing only port-a-john toilets. Others will have outdoor spigots for water, but no indoor showers. Some in the desert will have water for drinking only, but not bathing. Others have full bath facilities. So research in advance. If you're going out into the southwest desert, take along a 5-gallon jug of water. You can get clean with very little water when you need to. I've gotten to where I hardly ever use hotels any more, except in the bitter cold of winter. I've been visiting a lot of very neat parks, and seeing some amazing places. And it makes a great relaxing break from a long drive. And instead of watching the TV in a cheap motel, you can sit under the stars and read a good book. The internet will have sites for national parks, and national wildlife refuges, which detail locations and camping facilities. Each state will also have a web site for their own state parks. Map atlases will have an index to commercial campgrounds, which will have a "tent" symbol on the maps. Many campgrounds fill up during holidays and weekends, so check ahead for a reservation and availability. Many are first-come, first-serve. A lot of city-slickers come out on weekends, then just sit around and get drunk. So I prefer to camp during weekdays, to avoid the loud mob. Enjoy! It's a cheap and rewarding way to "see America". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #20 October 14, 2004 I'm sure Faber will also be getting in touch with many of us here before he comes to North America as I some how suspect I know some of the sites he's already planning on visiting (all having to do with some fixed object exit points). So depending upon what some of us are doing at the time that Faber is visiting, he will be able to hang out with us, maybe stay with us and of course jump with us. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #21 October 14, 2004 if ya need a place to crash in ohio (after june 16th) let me know as well as a place in northern utah (before june 15th) ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #22 October 15, 2004 cheers guysQuoteFaber is visiting, he will be able to hang out with us, maybe stay with us and of course jump with us. cheers mate, i deafently will try to atleast meet as many of you guys as poisble,considdering it will be a BASE trip Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #23 October 15, 2004 Most DZ's have free camping areas, and usually a fridge for your beer. What more could you ask for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #24 October 15, 2004 Quoteit will be a BASE trip Moab? Twin Falls? Yosemite? Go-Fast Games 2005 in Canon City? Northern CA? None ... or all of the above? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #25 October 15, 2004 Cheers John but as i dont skydive at this point im not sure why a dz would let me camp on their place(next year at the time my trip is my licens is not updated,so i wont have a licens..) Canuck, the S is a MUST on my list as i need a "safe"envioment to practice fun stuff,Moab is 2. on my list of official places,as i deafently are up to do some urban jumps around whith locals Pm/mail me if you want to know how im looking at stuff at this point as i dont want to make places public(the urban stuff) Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
wmw999 2,555 #3 October 14, 2004 In the vast majority of the US, you camp in designated campgrounds (or dropzones). There is a fee for most of them, which helps to pay for bathrooms, showers, and things like that. People are very defensive about property rights in the US, and I would strongly suggest not camping anywhere that wasn't a formal campground, where you didn't have specific permission. City parks, roadside rest areas, close to highways, all of those places are reasonably likely to end up with you arrested if you camp there. In some parts of the country, unwelcome camping could lead to your being escorted off at gunpoint by an irate owner (we take our gun rights seriously here too, some more seriously than others). Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #4 October 14, 2004 Depends on where you are in the US..large parts of the Western US are on public lands and you can camp almost anywhere you please. In the East...it's often difficult to find a place to camp and you a have to settle for and pay for a private campground. Complicating the issue is the type of public land...you can be on anything from a National Park, to forest service, to BLM and the rules are different for all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #5 October 14, 2004 I'm going to camp at my DZ for Halloween weekend I think, just to get as many jumps in as I can Gonna be COLD at night cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #6 October 14, 2004 cheers guys In genneral how are people if you ask them if you can camp on their proberty(just like for the night sleep) I cant belive the big difference(but some how understand it) oh.. if you see a frighted kid(ME) in a tent,only having 2 rigs and a sleeping bag,then please dont shoot me,i wear no weapons Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #7 October 14, 2004 You can also camp under most big city freeway overpasses and on sidewalks throughout San Francisco. I think it's legal since the same tent has been set up on the same sidewalk near my house for the last 2 weeks. Heck you don't even need a tent. Just a sleeping bag and doorway will do. If you sit in front of it and hold a sign that says something like "abducted by aliens this morning and missed lunch, can you spare some change?" you'll end up making more money then I do in a day. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,555 #8 October 14, 2004 QuoteIn genneral how are people if you ask them if you can camp on their proberty(just like for the night sleep) Well, um, I live in a subdivision (houses, small front yards). I'd think you were very weird . Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #9 October 14, 2004 I swear the panhandlers in Austin make around $300 per day.. tax free. I've considered it, but I'm not skinny enough to look starved and I dont like to be dirty all the time. edit: yeah I agree with Wendy. If someone asked to camp out on my front lawn I'd think something was weird too. Not to mention most private properties (along roads and highways) are fenced. Just get a campground guide and plan ahead. With all of the state and national parks, and DROP ZONES, you should have no trouble finding places to camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 October 14, 2004 Quotelike "abducted by aliens this morning and missed lunch, can you spare some change?" you'll end up making more money then I do in a day. HEY! Gimmie back my sign!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 October 14, 2004 If you can get your hands on the right sort of vehicle, you could always use that to sleep in. I don't do it often, but I have slept in my car at the Perrine Bridge's visitors center as well as some other select locations. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #12 October 14, 2004 Quote I swear the panhandlers in Austin make around $300 per day.. tax free. In his autobiography, a New York City cop mentions how he once tried to slip a homeless informant $20. The panhandler was embarrassed and had to explain that he makes upwards of a dollar per minute during rush hour. The cop realized that this homeless guy probably had double his annual income, but he dumped it all on a $200/day crack habit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #13 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf you can get your hands on the right sort of vehicle, you could always use that to sleep in. I don't do it often, but I have slept in my car at the Perrine Bridge's visitors center as well as some other select locations. is that legal? to sleep in your car,i ask becours as i know you cant here but you can put up your tent near anywere you want aslong as you leave the place as it were as you arrived... I like the mony thing,but im not sure you guys would like it as it probaly would mean that i would stay even longer(naahhh max 3 weeks,i cant be whith out my kids for longer). Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #14 October 14, 2004 QuoteIf you can get your hands on the right sort of vehicle, you could always use that to sleep in. I don't do it often, but I have slept in my car at the Perrine Bridge's visitors center as well as some other select locations. I do that all the time at the dz and at boogies. I have a full sized truck and I fit all nice and cozy in the back seat. Saves me the trouble of a tent which is on the cold hard ground anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #15 October 14, 2004 QuoteI have a full sized truck and I fit all nice and cozy in the back seat. Saves me the trouble of a tent which is on the cold hard ground anyway. so i guess ill need to convince you to drive me arround as im over thanks for the help guys ps. as im no longer is a skydiver(yes i sold my gear and stopped paying to DFU(like USPA,just in DK),im not sure they want me arround at dz´s Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #16 October 14, 2004 I have my bad ass van set up so that I can sleep any where I want.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #17 October 14, 2004 Most people would not let you camp in their yard unless they know you. We're very sue happy here and most people would be affraid you would hurt yourself while on their land and sue them. If you're planning on stopping in San Diego let me know, I'll set you up. Blues,Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #18 October 14, 2004 Quotecheers guys In genneral how are people if you ask them if you can camp on their proberty(just like for the night sleep) I cant belive the big difference(but some how understand it) oh.. if you see a frighted kid(ME) in a tent,only having 2 rigs and a sleeping bag,then please dont shoot me,i wear no weapons It has been my experience that people who own private property do not like people camping out even if it is for a few hours. I have seen signs on private property that read something to the affect of....please close gates behind you. Which implies they do not mind you camping or hiking on their property. In many public land areas that are next to private property, signs will be very obvious! Really best bet is state and national parks. Some are better.....personally I like the more primitive camping areas. Your best bet is to research the areas you would like to visit. Many areas in the Southwest are BLM land and you can almost do whatever you like, but they are making new laws every year to protect the lands.....some laws for example: if you are camping in the desert on BLM land, you must have(and use) a portable toilet....(2)in some forrest no motorized anything is allowed.....stuff like that. When you get to a park, along with the fee comes a nice packet of info you should read! About camping and hiking in remote areas.....the local people are not always friendly with outsiders and sometimes it is not safe to camp-especially in a tent. I have seen camping areas in or near small towns that were full of crackheads and it would be insane to tent camp there! Beware of bears and mountain lions and research how to avoid and protect yourself from these animals! And too, you had better have some kind of weapon to protect yourself......if you yell out, "I have no weapons only 2 rigs" that is just not going to do it! See the movie Deliverance! Edit:Some places will not let you sleep in your car. And highway rest areas are not always the best of places either! See the movie Something About Mary! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #19 October 14, 2004 Do your research up-front so you know what's available where you are traveling. There are commercial campgrounds, which usually charge from $10 to $15 per night for a tent campsite. You get a small patch of grass, and access to the bathrooms, showers, laundry room, etc. These are usually easy to find around major interstate highways and cities. Also check out the numerous state and national parks. Most of those provide camping for a fee ranging from free, to $10 per night. Same deal with a patch of land and showers. Facilities vary widely. Some are "primitive" camp sites, providing only port-a-john toilets. Others will have outdoor spigots for water, but no indoor showers. Some in the desert will have water for drinking only, but not bathing. Others have full bath facilities. So research in advance. If you're going out into the southwest desert, take along a 5-gallon jug of water. You can get clean with very little water when you need to. I've gotten to where I hardly ever use hotels any more, except in the bitter cold of winter. I've been visiting a lot of very neat parks, and seeing some amazing places. And it makes a great relaxing break from a long drive. And instead of watching the TV in a cheap motel, you can sit under the stars and read a good book. The internet will have sites for national parks, and national wildlife refuges, which detail locations and camping facilities. Each state will also have a web site for their own state parks. Map atlases will have an index to commercial campgrounds, which will have a "tent" symbol on the maps. Many campgrounds fill up during holidays and weekends, so check ahead for a reservation and availability. Many are first-come, first-serve. A lot of city-slickers come out on weekends, then just sit around and get drunk. So I prefer to camp during weekdays, to avoid the loud mob. Enjoy! It's a cheap and rewarding way to "see America". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #20 October 14, 2004 I'm sure Faber will also be getting in touch with many of us here before he comes to North America as I some how suspect I know some of the sites he's already planning on visiting (all having to do with some fixed object exit points). So depending upon what some of us are doing at the time that Faber is visiting, he will be able to hang out with us, maybe stay with us and of course jump with us. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #21 October 14, 2004 if ya need a place to crash in ohio (after june 16th) let me know as well as a place in northern utah (before june 15th) ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #22 October 15, 2004 cheers guysQuoteFaber is visiting, he will be able to hang out with us, maybe stay with us and of course jump with us. cheers mate, i deafently will try to atleast meet as many of you guys as poisble,considdering it will be a BASE trip Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #23 October 15, 2004 Most DZ's have free camping areas, and usually a fridge for your beer. What more could you ask for? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #24 October 15, 2004 Quoteit will be a BASE trip Moab? Twin Falls? Yosemite? Go-Fast Games 2005 in Canon City? Northern CA? None ... or all of the above? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #25 October 15, 2004 Cheers John but as i dont skydive at this point im not sure why a dz would let me camp on their place(next year at the time my trip is my licens is not updated,so i wont have a licens..) Canuck, the S is a MUST on my list as i need a "safe"envioment to practice fun stuff,Moab is 2. on my list of official places,as i deafently are up to do some urban jumps around whith locals Pm/mail me if you want to know how im looking at stuff at this point as i dont want to make places public(the urban stuff) Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
