downloading torrents

[bigway 4]

i want to know if downloading torrents are illegal or not?
you see if it is not illegal i would love to share it with you all.
i have found this proggrame where i can download any movie old or still at the cinemas completley free. Now i am aware the person who made the film would be breaking a law or pissing of the studios but is it illegal for me to download these films?
i mean this proggrame will give you thinkgs like supersize me, the grudge, team america, ladder 49 and everythingelse you can possibly think about.
so if it is not illegal i would post it and tell you the username and password. it works great, feel free to pm though.

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[adamjenner 0]

i think downloading a movie that isn't in theatres yet (or has just made it in) is illegal.
actually i was always under the impression downloading anything like movies, hacked programs, music...was all illegal?

and are you by any chance talking about bitorrent and the website suprnova.net?

it's alright to post that much information seeing as how the site just went "pay"....grrrr, nothing's for free anymore.

[bigway 4]

i am talking exactly about bittorent and suprnova.org. you see i gave someone my passwords and they now have complete access so i though if any one else wants this they are welcome to it. I love it.
So what infor mation can i post? can i post the username and password and what to do when you have it? do you want it?

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[adamjenner 0]

YOu can post whatever you want (as long as it's within the forums rules...(just covering my ass here)) hahahaha
i actually am using my friend one so i don't need a name or pass, but thanks though.
i'm sure others might want it though.

it is indeed a very sweet thing to have, you can get full albums, movies...well you basically said it all.

[bigway 4]

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i actually am using my friend one so i don't need a name or pass, but thanks though.

wink...wink
well if anyone wants it pm me, i dont know what sangrio would think about it so just pm me, you can have anything you want from this.

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[wingnut 0]

just remeber, downloading a copyrighted work is stealing........... just because you didn't put it in a coat pocket and walk out of the mall with it doesn't make it okay................. i used to use napster, kaza to download stuf... not anymore... came to the relization it was just as bad as actally physicaly stealing it..... who ever it was that made what ever you are downloading worked hard to do so and they expect to be compensated......... how would you like to pack all day long atthe dz and then findout that all your workis for nothing because the juper sliped away...same thing...... just because it's a bigger company doesn't make it right......... heck when i got my new computer i went out and bought a new copy of wn xp just cause i didn't want to be a "pirate" anymore... (i didn't like giving microsoft my money but i still did)

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[bigway 4]

fair enough. This would be what i am asking. I have done a few searches on the internet to find out if using this client is illegal and it does not seem so. Yes you make a very valid point on the stealing someone elses work though.
You are correct i would not enjoy my jump videos going to everyone for free.
But then would that also be illegal or classed as stealing when we video tv shows? or i am not sure but thinking along these lines you have pointed out would it not be classed as stealing(harsh word) when we use artists music as sound tracks to our tandem videos and skydiving videos when we have not asked for permission from the record labels?
Maybe alot of you do ask for permission but i am sure that would be illegal just as if we were making copies of their albums but we are putting them to our tandem videos for a profit whithout permission or giving the record labels a percentage.
Now is this stealing? do we have problems with this?

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[pwln 0]

Using the Bit torrent client is NOT illegal, Just what you seem to be using it for is. I know a lot of people that share music from live shows that the bands allow "tapers" to tape the show, a few hours after the show the torrents are online for download.

So the program you are using can be used for legal downloading, and it save the file host a ton of bandwith by using other clients that are downloading the same file to pass the info along.

[DontPanic 0]

I've used Bittorrent to download Linux CDs. This is completely legal, and is a great way to download a few Gig of data, while legally sharing out with others while you download.

But be careful using Bittorrent to download copyrighted material such as music or movies. Most Bittorrent clients will automatically share out the download you are accessing. The MPAA and the RIAA ARE going after people they catch sharing out their copyrighted material using the Bittorrent client.

I like Bittorrent, and it is one of the few P2P clients that has fostered a base of legal P2P uses with it's application to distributing various Linux and other GNU material. But it still has the same risks with the RIAA and MPAA as other P2P clients when it comes to copyrighted material.

[MWGemini 0]

Downloading software, music, or movies, regardless of how you do it (torrent, FTP, kazaa, etc) is illegal. It is not the software you use that makes something legal or illegal, it is the act itself. I've personally never used torrent, but I have heard a lot of good things about it. However, if you are using it to transfer illegally obtained and/or copyrighted material, chances are you will be caught, as the way that the torrent software works makes it very easy for knowledgeable people to track who is sending the data.

The people who created the work (whether it be music, the latest movie to hit theatres, the cool game that wont hit shelves until next week, etc) worked hard to create them. By downloading their intellectual property and circumventing the store/box office/whatever, you are taking money away from them. For their sake and yours, stop doing it.

Thanks,

Mike

[CrazyIvan 0]

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if you are using it to transfer illegally obtained and/or copyrighted material, chances are you will be caught

BBWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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[bigway 4]

ok thanks everyone for your input, i guess i will not be posting the passwords for others.
People who do this, being caught, well there is over half a million people doing this a day. i do not see there chances of being caught very high.
I do however thank you for your input and i have read each post and come to the conclusion that it is not a fair thing to be doing.
I would like to ask a relevant question though.
is it illegal for myself to be putting songs that i have not made on tandem videos and personal jump videos for me to share?
thank you.

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[MWGemini 0]

Withotu the permission of the songs creator, it usually is. That is a much less serious offense than piracy however.

Mike.

[bigway 4]

well that is everything answered, thank you all.

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[mccurley 1]

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is it illegal for myself to be putting songs that i have not made on tandem videos and personal jump videos

Technically you are supposed to pay a royalty for any song used in any fasion whatsoever if you are in turn being paid money through the use of that song.

Here in New Zealand the agency responsible to collect royalties is APRA and they are intitled to collect royalties when ever I do a Gig and use other peoples songs. They are responsible to pay royalties to me if someone else uses my songs.

They are intitled to collect royalties from Pubs or restaurants playing background music.
How tightly this is controled depends on the organization and the country involved.

So putting music onto a video you are not being paid for is OK. Putting it onto a tandem video which the passenger has paid for is due for royalties.

I doubt they will ever come after you as the amounts of money involved per item is very small.

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[bigway 4]

i never knew we had such an agency in new zealand. It is interesting to know. with the skydiving community so small in nz i can imagine if one dz got hit with this that all dz's would start putting some sort of money aside in case they turned up. Have you heard of this happening at a nz dropzone?

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[PhreeZone 20]

Its ok only if its for private use. I use a lot of Indy/Underground stuff on my videos, but I'm still stealing from them because I'm not paying for it. Some groups are really cool if they are underground about letting you use their music in exchange for credits and advertising. Thats what Martini Shots got the music to put on WFFC ' 01, '02 and '03 videos.

If I make a video and post it to the net... I needed to pay royalities for it. If I make a video that will only be shown at home with no money in play then I don't need to pay.

Downloading anything... Music, Movies, TV shows, Software from the net is illegal unless the publisher states its freeware. Even with Shareware if you use it past the 30 days its illegal unless you pay.

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[packerboy 3]

But if you are going to do said illegal activities, I hear that Bittorent - Suprnova.org is the best way to do it..

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[bigway 4]

i have heard that too, i hear with broadband it does not take long either.

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[mccurley 1]

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happening at a nz dropzone?

I've never heard of it happening at any Drop Zone. It's one of those things that is a potential, but not a very big one.

If the situation becomes such that the industry feels it is losing out on significant income, or they feel they need to make and example of someone, they may do something some day.

If you are making money for a tape then you should pay royalties, that depends on your sense of what's right or wrong. But I really couldn't see anyone paying the lawyer bags of money to recoup the few pennies involved. And it is quite literally pennies per unit.

When i play at a pub or restaurant, using other peoples songs,which I do. the pub is up for a total few dollars per three hour gig. "IF THEY PAY AT All"

Every country pretty much has an association like APRA which will collect and distribute the royalties due to artists. They collect on radio time, public performances etc. Other wise the atrtists would get income from only album sales and that is the small part of income for some.

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[wingnut 0]

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Now is this stealing? do we have problems with this?

yup... and some do... check out deuce's fulllenght video of eloy christmas 2003.... all copyright free music on that... but then again look at my video'si've ever made and you will find copyrighted musi.. it's all about the level you want to go for...... there is a justificationanybody can make about anything,,,,, it's all up to you and what moral issues you impose on yourself......

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[bigway 4]

Well this all makes perfectly good sense. I do not download music, never have. I might have downloaded a documentry or 2. Though i do not see myself paying to use songs on tandem videos or any'home' videos as of yet. i am sure if/when i get to the level of my work being put out for everyone or 'that' level where i will sell my work( apart from tandems,) i will be sure to do it the legitimate way for my own sake and the person who owns the music.

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