Vallerina 2 #26 November 5, 2004 Quotebut it is a public forum if ANYONE asks a question people of all sexes will reply.( just wanted to make sure you understood that) Sangiro made a point of telling men that they should be careful in the women's forum. There is some sexism in skydiving. We're not saying that all or even most men are like that. I would say that maybe 5% of men are sexist and hand out condescending advice. For me it's not really a problem because I put them in their place, and they leave me alone. However, it is a problem for some women. The discussion should not have been used to prove that sexism in the sport doesn't exist. The discussion should've been used to help women get around some of the barriers which they may not have had to deal with before. (I'm used to it. I've heard all my life that women aren't good at math. I'm used to proving people wrong!)There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #27 November 5, 2004 I'm trying to figure out why men are posting in the women only forum. I don't even read it. I'm not a woman....who cares. I'm guessing if they wanted an opinion from someone regardless of gender, they wouldn't post a question there, they'd post it in a topical forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #28 November 5, 2004 Quoteso that I can tell women that are trying to pass on valuable information that because it came from a women it means nothing. Not all women feel that way, so please do not think that we do. The thread I started in the Women's forum was started there because it would remain in view above the "I like PB&J" & "My cat is funny" threads that take up the first 5 pages of bonfire. It was a serious topic and the best place I could think for it to go was the Women's forum. I, personally, did not have a problem with men contributing USEFUL info to the thread. It is when it becomes a flamefest or tells women that it's their own fault that it becomes a problem for me. But, hell, I agree with you that if there is a Women's forum, there should also be a Men's forum. It would just be difficult to moderate and that is probably why there isn't one -A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #29 November 5, 2004 Sexism...exists everywhere! Some men won't take advice from a woman, and some women won't take advice from a man. There are chauvinistic men, and there are feministic females. Simple math to sum this all up: man does not = woman. Woman does not = man. We are all different and each gender DOES have strengths and weaknesses. How hard can that be to figure out? Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #30 November 5, 2004 Quoteso THATS the POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE. just because I have a penis doesn't mean I am one. That's debateable...i'm still mad you didn't meet up with me and eener in vegas when we were there. Quotebut it is a public forum if ANYONE asks a question people of all sexes will reply.( just wanted to make sure you understood that) People of all sexes huh? I wonder which category clintonradloff fits into... ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #31 November 5, 2004 well, Im sorry for joining in that side of the discussion but by the time i got there it was aleady shot down. minds shut fast when flames get invovled- seems at that point no matter what I say "im just a man" but If i had any experience that would help answer your question, I'd post it in a pm or somethingMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #32 November 5, 2004 Quotei'm still mad you didn't meet up with me and eener in vegas when we were there. He stood you up too? What a dick! Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #33 November 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteI personally tend to seek out advice specifically from men, seems they are pretty good at that sort of thing ( yeah, I'm young and probably naive according to that statement, right?) Interesting...I tend to seek advice from people who are experienced and respected in the field in which I'd like advice. Seeking advice based on gender is ignorant and sheltered. _Pm I couldn't agree more! But, I wasn't really expecting any better from windcatcher, either, to be honest, so I wasn't going to respond until I saw that someone else caught that that was absolutely RIDICULOUS! -A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #34 November 5, 2004 QuoteHe stood you up too? What a dick! I think you meant to say "what a penis!" ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #35 November 5, 2004 QuoteQuoteSeeking advice based on gender is ignorant and sheltered. When I was 12, I was seeking advice from only females about how to use a tampon! It's not always ignorant and sheltered. Guys have a different center of balance, so their bodies fly differently than women's. Val, Craichead also mentioned : "I tend to seek advice from people who are experienced and respected in the field in which I'd like advice." I think that says it all right there. Of course men wouldn't have much info on how to use a tampon. Everyone has things that are out of their realm of knowledge, but you are really cutting out a lot of good info if you're seeking advice only from one gender rather than seeking advice based on who has experience with what you're asking for, imo. -A ** for the record, this is not about my topic in the women's forum. That was not a thread asking for advice, it was asking why a myth continues to exist, and thinking about it further, I think that it was a good move to post it in the women's forum so that women get the chance to discuss that without a bunch of one liners. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #36 November 5, 2004 QuoteI couldn't agree more! But, I wasn't really expecting any better from windcatcher, either, to be honest, so I wasn't going to respond until I saw that someone else caught that that was absolutel RIDICULOUS! why because I'm a female? did ya happen to read my post after that one, explaining what I meant? wow, some people just don't feel good about themselves on dz.com until they've bashed someone. oh well, I still love ya! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #37 November 5, 2004 QuoteQuotei'm still mad you didn't meet up with me and eener in vegas when we were there. He stood you up too? What a dick! why would I wanna hang out with a man basher OR A FRENCH GUY? I mean come on! LOL ( seriously though, I do feel bad about that)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy_H 0 #38 November 5, 2004 excellent idea.... we can discuss issues such as skydiving and the effect on premature baldness or the effects of legstraps on future fatherhood! 010010010110010101100001011101000111000001110101011100110111001101111001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #39 November 5, 2004 Quote When I was 12, I was seeking advice from only females about how to use a tampon! It's not always ignorant and sheltered. Guys have a different center of balance, so their bodies fly differently than women's. Right, which is why I said I tend to seek advice from someone who is experienced and respected in the field in which I require advice. Obviously more women than men will be more experienced and knowledgeable in regards to tampon use and center of gravity issues in skydiving, but that doesn't mean that all women are familiar and experienced with these issues. What would've happened if you asked just females who had never used a tampon? Or freefly advice from just women who only have belly jumps? Unlikely and extreme scenarios, but seeking advice from someone just because they're male or female is silly. _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #40 November 5, 2004 pm sent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #41 November 5, 2004 Quote but seeking advice from someone just because they're male or female is silly. true. but wouldn't you agree men are wonderful sources of information, as well as women? Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #42 November 5, 2004 Quoteexcellent idea.... we can discuss issues such as skydiving and the effect on premature baldness or the effects of legstraps on future fatherhood! LOL!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #43 November 5, 2004 Quotepremature baldness Fock that. What would you call non-premature baldness? Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #44 November 5, 2004 haha symantics. I guess its ok to go bald if 1 you decide to be a neo-nazi 2 you have to get chemo 3 youre a new born after that its not premature and only one of them isnt not dreadfulMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #45 November 5, 2004 OK EVERYBODY JUST SIMMER DOWN NOW! (yeah I know I'm late as usual) Skydiving is a male dominated sport. That's just a plain ole fact. I get some wonderful information from men, both on the dropzone and from this website. I truly appreciate that. It is nice though to be able to post something in a womens only forum to get the point of view from just women. I think the reason the women go off on guys in there is because the whole point of posting was to get a womans perspective. We've already heard from the guys in general skydiving and the rest of the site. It's not that we don't appreciate it. It's just not what we were looking for. I think that's about all I wanted to say. It's just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #46 November 5, 2004 The women's forum is important. Very important. I'm sorry that it's in any way resented, but that doesn't make the need for it any less significant.Skydiving is for cool people only Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #47 November 5, 2004 QuoteSkydiving is a male dominated sport. That's just a plain ole fact. You say that like its our fault. It is not our fault that more men skydive than women...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #48 November 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteSkydiving is a male dominated sport. That's just a plain ole fact. You say that like its our fault. It is not our fault that more men skydive than women... HA! Don't try to turn my post into something negative. I was just stating a fact but really who cares how many men/women are in it?! Read the rest of the post and maybe you'll understand the point I was trying to make. Actually I kind of like the fact that it's a male dominated sport. More eye candy for me!!! Now go untangle your canopy and stop trying to pick a fight. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
girlygirl 0 #49 November 6, 2004 QuoteQuote*** Actually I kind of like the fact that it's a male dominated sport. More eye candy for me!!!*** I wholeheartedly agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #50 November 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuote*** Actually I kind of like the fact that it's a male dominated sport. More eye candy for me!!!*** I wholeheartedly agree. I feel so used.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Remster 30 #50 November 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuote*** Actually I kind of like the fact that it's a male dominated sport. More eye candy for me!!!*** I wholeheartedly agree. I feel so used.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
