DShiznit 0 #26 November 19, 2004 My last post on this subject - Avoid Chrysler/Dodge at all cost, which is why I am replacing an entire motor prematurely. Sorry to hijack your thread.... are you out of warranty, I take it? I thought Saturn was known for their rediculously long warranties... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #27 November 19, 2004 QuoteMy last post on this subject - Avoid Chrysler/Dodge at all cost, which is why I am replacing an entire motor prematurely. Sorry to hijack your thread.... are you out of warranty, I take it? I thought Saturn was known for their rediculously long warranties... And Ford has a history of front-end problems.... And GMC has a history of transmission problems.... And Chevy.... well, they're CHEVYS... who'd want one anyway? ( @ Dave) My point is, every maker has history of some sort of problems... to me it's more important that they keep working to SOLVE those problems...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #28 November 19, 2004 ***And Chevy.... well, they're CHEVYS... who'd want one anyway? ( @ Dave) My 57 two-door sedan is the third most sought after car on the market being that only 62,751 of them being made and that just over 1/4 of them survived the years. The 1957 convertible having 47,562 made and less than 1/4 still around and then the number one classic of them all is the 1957 nomad having 6,103 made and less than 2000 in loving hands. I cannot count the offers I have had on my baby. SHE IS MINE, MINE, MINE!!! I want to be buried in her!"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 November 19, 2004 Ok, Ok.... Chevy TRUCKS.... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #30 November 19, 2004 OK I agree on that as long as it is any chevy truck after 1973."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #31 November 19, 2004 QuoteI'm getting it rebuilt.. We are STUCK in the car. No real choice but to get it repaired. It's a Saturn, L200, 2001... Not to keep the suffering fresh (I know how you feel), but how many miles are on the car? If it's an L200, it's a four-cylinder, any chance you can find a unit at a savlage yard off a another L200 or low-end Saab 9/5 (shared platform). I'm assuming it's an automatic tranny (even though a manual was standard equipment), is that correct?. As to dealer versus trusted mechanic doing the work: Myself, I'm a proponent of having dealers do the work. However, I base that on my experience specifically with Hondas. Normally, I wouldn't think too much about that with an American car. The engine (2.2L "Ecotec") isn't an exclusive to Saturn anymore, you might be able to find a usable replacement tranny or clutch from another GM product. Just some ideas.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #32 November 19, 2004 Chevy--shmevy... **begin rant** GM is the most inefficient auto maker in the world. Almost everything they touch turns to sh*t. Saab, Vauxhall, Opel, Subaru (and until recently Fiat, and by proxy Ferrari), Lotus have all felt the decay. Vauxhall and Opel have seen no benefit, Saab is slowly becoming a parts bin/mish-mash of other products, and Subaru is just now getting corroded by having the "all-knowing" GM take the WRX and make a Saab 9/2 out of it. The upcoming Saab 9/7x is a GMC Envoy (whose inline 6-cylinder is not of the reliability of the more robust V8's that GM can build), Lotus actually stopped making cars during GM's reign, gone was the Lotus Esprit and Elan making them a tune shop until a Malaysian Investment group bought them (at a horrible loss to GM) and resurrected the marque (the new Lotus Elise uses a Toyota engine, but is an in-house design overall, very sharp). Holden of Australia, well I don't know a lot about them other than there are some pretty good looking cars down there (on paper anyway). We won't even talk about the Pontiac Aztec. The upcoming Chevy Cobalt promises to be a competitor that surpasses that of Honda Civic, Toyota Celica, Nissan Sentra, VW Jetta lines. Don't hold your breath. From what I've read, it's already set for failure based on some basics not being reinforced (poor platform choice, unproven engine packages). GM has cheaped out on every promising product line. Oldsmobile is no more and the new and evolving Cadillac line still has work to do before they can "share" the technology/equipment across the board. GM is good at making one thing: V8 gasoline engines. Sure, they're an old design, but they are resilient. I would say that Trucks fall next on the list of things GM is good at, but even then it's only full size trucks they've got down well, but it's not as good as its competitors from Ford. I want GM to do well, but they seem incapable of refocusing on the basics to advance their brands, while maintaining seperate identities and demographically focused packages of the brands (like the differences between the Mazda3, Ford Focus, and Volvo V50/S40 -- which all share chassis and some engine pieces, but packages of features, suspension tuning and exclusive engine choices exist). *//end rant*So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #33 November 19, 2004 QuoteNot to keep the suffering fresh (I know how you feel), but how many miles are on the car? 54,000 miles... And it is a GM transmission.. Go figure.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #34 November 19, 2004 Had a Ford E150 Van, blew the engine. A friend replaced the engine and tranny with parts from his mothers totaled van. Complete cost $1300.00. This was 3.5 years ago. Still runs great. Check around. Especially the junk yards, find one that has been totalled and save a grand or more. REALLY! And some parts places install and guarantee LONGER than dealerships or garages.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
