LouDiamond 1 #26 November 19, 2004 I know it doesn't sound right and the numbers don't seem to make sense but it has been been mathimatically proven ,even by NASA. What I think the difference is , is that you are calculating terminal velocity and I have given examples of accelaration in an attempt to calculate precise velocity. The last link in my previous post has a pretty good description of the difference in the two. LOL Where's Kallend when you need him?"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #27 November 19, 2004 Yo BZZZZ, here is the photo I was talking about, as you can see there was a streamer attached. I am sure this did slow it down some. ArvelBSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #28 November 19, 2004 Quote LOL Where's Kallend when you need him? Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/airfri2.html#c5... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #29 November 19, 2004 Arvel, who was the lucky guy that recovered it before everyone pulled?"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #30 November 19, 2004 Well..............."Arvel" don't swim all to good, I was just the bomb-a-dear We went with the Big Ocean, Small Boat, thought process..................what could possibly go wrong!!! ArvelBSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #31 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuote*** i dont know about all that mumbo jumbo but i do know if you was standing on the ground and it hit you on the head at that speed you would automatically say OUCH i dont think you would say anything...Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #32 November 19, 2004 Do you remember the weight of the bowling ball?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlueSBDeath 2 #33 November 19, 2004 Sorry I do not.BSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #34 November 19, 2004 Quote Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. My guess is that most people (including me) have no idea what the air density is in kg per cubic meter at 10,000 feet msl. Whacha got?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #35 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuote Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. My guess is that most people (including me) have no idea what the air density is in kg per cubic meter at 10,000 feet msl. Whacha got? 42...duh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,151 #36 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuote Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. My guess is that most people (including me) have no idea what the air density is in kg per cubic meter at 10,000 feet msl. Whacha got? It's the density of the sphere that is needed. It has the air density built in. However, for future reference: aero.stanford.edu/StdAtm.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #37 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteSo the number I'm ending up with for a 16 lb bowling ball is 300.6 mph. See, beezy.. really freakin' fast.. faster than amazon.. Before I even got down this far in the thread, I had a feeling that bowling ball would really give the world's best Speed Skydivers a run for their money! I wonder how deep that 16 pound bowling ball would go into the ground on impact, say in Alabama's red clay dirt? See www.speedskydiving.com for some of the speeds posted this year in their meets. Pretty amazing! My personal best speed is 224 mph without any real speed practice. (okay, maybe several years worth of late diving on big ways helped somewhat)... Blue Skies Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #38 November 20, 2004 QuoteSpecifically, I am trying to find what terminal velocity of a bowling ball would be. Probably not as fast as the tandem test dummy you guys lost that one time........---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #39 November 20, 2004 QuoteYo BZZZZ, here is the photo I was talking about, as you can see there was a streamer attached. I am sure this did slow it down some. So who was the "ball master" and how'd they catch it?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites beezyshaw 0 #40 November 20, 2004 QuoteProbably not as fast as the tandem test dummy you guys lost that one time........ Yea, no doubt. That missle-shaped dummy weighed over 600 lbs. if I remember correctly, and had about a 12 inch diameter. I think we estimated around 600 mph! The AAD fired at 2000 as planned, but the pilot chute for the canopy was just starting to come out of the pack at impact! It landed in soft dirt at the back of Tullahoma airport, we knew exactly where it went in, but never even found a trace! We figured it must have augered 6 or 8 feet underground. Now THAT'S a high speed impact! After that, we set the AAD for like 5000' and never had any more problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cvfd1399 0 #41 November 20, 2004 That is slow lol I hit 174 on my belly every jump until I lost weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #42 November 20, 2004 174??? HOLY COW!!! Well, I'll have a better idea of my "average" speed as I go along...then I can figure out what kind of jumpsuit I'm going to need...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cvfd1399 0 #43 November 20, 2004 I have polycotton tony suit with swoop cords. My slowest stable belly to earth speed is 107, but my regular RW average speed is 118-124mph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Pilotmonkey 0 #44 November 20, 2004 Did you know that 58.987% of all statistics are made up on the spot? Thinkin about chainsaws....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #45 November 20, 2004 I think I was wearing a Bev suit when I hit those speeds...but now that I'm back at the room, lemme look at my neptune... lets see now... Jump 2 125 max, 120 avg Jump 3 134 max, 125 avg Jump 4 138 max, 125 avg Jump 5 131 max, 120 avg Jump 6 136 max, 129 avg Jump 7 136 max, 114 avg I think once I learn better control of my speed I'll be ok without having to get some huge balloon suit...I hope. The instructor I had for AFF 5-7 (Hi Kirsten, and thanks again if you read this!) said I probably wouldn't have any problems flying base for hybrids... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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quade 4 #32 November 19, 2004 Do you remember the weight of the bowling ball?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSBDeath 2 #33 November 19, 2004 Sorry I do not.BSBD...........Its all about Respect, USPA#-7062, FB-2197, Outlaw 499 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 November 19, 2004 Quote Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. My guess is that most people (including me) have no idea what the air density is in kg per cubic meter at 10,000 feet msl. Whacha got?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #35 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuote Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. My guess is that most people (including me) have no idea what the air density is in kg per cubic meter at 10,000 feet msl. Whacha got? 42...duh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #36 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuote Having a good laugh and wondering why you don't just fill in the blanks in this handy dandy terminal velocity calculator for spheres? No brainiac work needed. My guess is that most people (including me) have no idea what the air density is in kg per cubic meter at 10,000 feet msl. Whacha got? It's the density of the sphere that is needed. It has the air density built in. However, for future reference: aero.stanford.edu/StdAtm.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #37 November 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteSo the number I'm ending up with for a 16 lb bowling ball is 300.6 mph. See, beezy.. really freakin' fast.. faster than amazon.. Before I even got down this far in the thread, I had a feeling that bowling ball would really give the world's best Speed Skydivers a run for their money! I wonder how deep that 16 pound bowling ball would go into the ground on impact, say in Alabama's red clay dirt? See www.speedskydiving.com for some of the speeds posted this year in their meets. Pretty amazing! My personal best speed is 224 mph without any real speed practice. (okay, maybe several years worth of late diving on big ways helped somewhat)... Blue Skies Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #38 November 20, 2004 QuoteSpecifically, I am trying to find what terminal velocity of a bowling ball would be. Probably not as fast as the tandem test dummy you guys lost that one time........---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #39 November 20, 2004 QuoteYo BZZZZ, here is the photo I was talking about, as you can see there was a streamer attached. I am sure this did slow it down some. So who was the "ball master" and how'd they catch it?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beezyshaw 0 #40 November 20, 2004 QuoteProbably not as fast as the tandem test dummy you guys lost that one time........ Yea, no doubt. That missle-shaped dummy weighed over 600 lbs. if I remember correctly, and had about a 12 inch diameter. I think we estimated around 600 mph! The AAD fired at 2000 as planned, but the pilot chute for the canopy was just starting to come out of the pack at impact! It landed in soft dirt at the back of Tullahoma airport, we knew exactly where it went in, but never even found a trace! We figured it must have augered 6 or 8 feet underground. Now THAT'S a high speed impact! After that, we set the AAD for like 5000' and never had any more problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #41 November 20, 2004 That is slow lol I hit 174 on my belly every jump until I lost weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #42 November 20, 2004 174??? HOLY COW!!! Well, I'll have a better idea of my "average" speed as I go along...then I can figure out what kind of jumpsuit I'm going to need...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #43 November 20, 2004 I have polycotton tony suit with swoop cords. My slowest stable belly to earth speed is 107, but my regular RW average speed is 118-124mph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilotmonkey 0 #44 November 20, 2004 Did you know that 58.987% of all statistics are made up on the spot? Thinkin about chainsaws....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #45 November 20, 2004 I think I was wearing a Bev suit when I hit those speeds...but now that I'm back at the room, lemme look at my neptune... lets see now... Jump 2 125 max, 120 avg Jump 3 134 max, 125 avg Jump 4 138 max, 125 avg Jump 5 131 max, 120 avg Jump 6 136 max, 129 avg Jump 7 136 max, 114 avg I think once I learn better control of my speed I'll be ok without having to get some huge balloon suit...I hope. The instructor I had for AFF 5-7 (Hi Kirsten, and thanks again if you read this!) said I probably wouldn't have any problems flying base for hybrids... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites