tantalum 0 #51 November 21, 2004 QuoteI'm getting more militant by the day with people fighting for their right to polute my lungs. t I hear you, bro! How about banning SUVs and signing the Kyoto treatment? Much better, than extinguishing a few smokers.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eden 0 #52 November 21, 2004 new zealand smokefree legislation comes into effect in the next couple of weeks, clean air for everyone down here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #53 November 21, 2004 Ok. Enough of this. I'll just say my usual quote to this nonsense and leave it at that. ---- DR JOYCELYN ELDERS' SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING ---- Each instance of listening to whining about secondhand smoke consumes 30 seconds where you could have done something meaningful with your life. If you also need more help interpreting my opinion, see the attached image. ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #54 November 21, 2004 Quote I'm getting sick of picking up their trash! I've politely asked them to use an ashtray, and they were apologetic and said they would, but next day, there's cigarette butts all over my front door mat again. sigh... That's easy, just get a broom and dustpan, sweep up their butts, then deposit the ugly pile right at their door! see how they like that!"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #55 November 21, 2004 QuoteIn Florida there is no smoking in places where food is served. It's the best law ever! Actually, it has to do with the percentage of the establishment's revenue that comes from food. If it's over a set percentage, they may not allow smoking. But in the case of a bar -- even after the recent laws -- if most of the money comes from alcohol sales (which is easy for them to accomplish) they may allow smoking inside. I know this is so because I was at such a bar the other day. We checked it out for lunch, but thought it would be more like a restaurant. Walked in, saw a juke box, pool tables and a bar, and smelled the smoke and we walked right back out. *bleargh* -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #56 November 21, 2004 Of course if its a bar and don't sell more food than alcohol they will allow smoking. The Oyster Pub, a hoppin bar in Daytona Beach doesn't allow smoking because more food is served according to the percentages you stated. Generally speaking, if they serve food you can be reasonably sure there is no smoking inside. Like you said, if you smell smoke, most people walk out. I can't stand smoke when I eat, that's the only time I'd complain about the smoke.Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerd137 0 #57 November 21, 2004 QuoteI will never understand this. I have tried smoking when I was 17. I smoked a maybe around a pack over the course of about 3 weeks or so. It just gives you a run down & slightly wired kinda feeling. And it tastes & smells bad. I just cannot understand why people think its so great that they would want to celebrate with it. Or pine away over it after they quit. Cigarettes just don't taste good or make me feel good. I just don't understand the attraction at all. Speed Racer Guess they weren't for you. (You're lucky!) I wish that I felt the same way back when I started, but I really enjoyed them. And the more addicted I became, the better they tasted. But I don't deny that physically they made me feel like total shit. I'd have coughing fits, get winded going up a flight of stairs, my chest hurt all the time, etc, etc. That's why I quit. But they were also a mental crutch for me for 11 years - they helped me feel good during bad times and even better during good moments. (Yes, even with all the physical aggrivation, they still made me feel good.) That's a tough psychological habit to simply forget and discard. My whole ex-girlfriend analogy? I just use that for shits 'n giggles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #58 November 21, 2004 QuoteI've always been amazed at how close smokers get to gasoline etc, while smoking. I've noticed this too! I was on a city bus once that got in an accident. Someone on a motorcycle slammed into the side of the bus, piercing the gas tank. (miraculously, the biker was not seriously injured) The bus driver had us all get out & wait on the sidewalk until the police (& another bus) arrived. The first thing people did was light up cigarettes, standing right near the bus with the pierced gas tank. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #59 November 21, 2004 So, we're back to the no smoking/I smoke, fuckem thing I hit on this stuff years ago, check out the farting on the ride up post I did Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #60 November 22, 2004 I'm a non-smoker, and Proud of it. I can't stand the smell of tobacco smoke, and I have no desire to start now or in the future. I don't drink either. Maybe I'm just like that...=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #61 November 22, 2004 Here is the next health risk..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4026537.stm Click on the above Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kramer 0 #62 November 22, 2004 Never, as long as I live, will I be able to understand why a sane human being would start smoking. My level of thinking cannot grasp the idea of why someone would start smoking. The FAKE KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #63 November 22, 2004 Wow. I never expected this kind of response. I guess the issue of smoking polarises us. You either are a smoker, or not. Are there any people out there who are GLAD they are smokers? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #64 November 22, 2004 "Are there any people out there who are GLAD they are smokers?" I curse the day I started. Am about to try for the umpteenth time to stop again, monday morning, no smokes since yesterday afternoon, so far so good.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #65 November 22, 2004 Quote...Are there any people out there who are GLAD they are smokers? Tonto, you MUST be kidding....being a smoker, I can tell you. Smoking is NOT pleasant and is a stupid, filthy habit. I simply cannot imagine anyone truthfully saying they are glad they smoke cigarettes. Only will-power prevents smokers from becoming ex-smokers. You peeps out there with kids......kick their ever-lovin' asses if you EVER catch them smoking!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerd137 0 #66 November 22, 2004 QuoteAre there any people out there who are GLAD they are smokers? I can't say I regret starting...but only because I have quit. When I was smoking, especially when I was really heavy, I regretted it constantly. But there were also a few times in my life when I was so severly depressed that a cigarette was all I looked forward to from day to day. (I've read some studies that suggests that nicotine affects the brain in similar ways to anti-depressants.) I suppose there IS some truth to the suggestion that I look back at my smoking years with some fondness. Quitting was one of the hardest things I have ever done...and one of the best. I feel so much better now that I don't smoke. (FYI - I define "smoker" as smoking every day.) Although it may seem hypocritical or at least a contradiction to love and hate smoking simultaneously...but isn't that just part of the addicts's credo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #67 November 22, 2004 I absolutely loathe smoking and would gladly smash the fuck out of someone if they burned a hole in my gear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #68 November 23, 2004 I quit smoking 7 hours ago... Hope I can stay like that till I won't be able to count the hours or the days... Even gonna do some indoor climbing in an hour...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #69 November 23, 2004 QuoteAlthough it may seem hypocritical or at least a contradiction to love and hate smoking simultaneously... It's not hypocritical or a contradiction, that's just the way it is, and it sounds like a healthy way to look at it. My Grandfather told me, after he quit his life long habit, that having a smoke after a good meal had been one of the greatest joys of his life. Then, one year ago this past Sunday, I held the hand of his son (my father) as his heart beat it's last beat and he died from lung cancer from a lifetime of smoking. So I can definitely see why it would be a love/hate thing for smokers. As far as the second-hand smoke thing goes, I just don't get the bar-smoking connection. Smoking in public establishments of any kind is not a civil-right. Smoking and masturbation are things you should be able to do in your own home (or car if you're into that), but I should not have to put up with somene having a smoke or a wank while I'm at the pub having a pint!_________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites