rhino 0 #1 November 22, 2004 Not a fucking one of them has lifted a God Damned finger to help me with this damned car. I've gotten nothing but excuses from the lot of them. Everytime they call me I'm here for them no matter what but the ONE time I need them WHAMMO!!! Out of service... Fuck them all... I'm writing them off!!! Rhino I'll sell my $4000 rig to anyone right now for $3000, you could turn around and sell it for 3500 EASY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #2 November 22, 2004 Treasure the gift of your family, Robert. They're worth more than gold. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperconway 0 #3 November 22, 2004 Rob. Relax! You still have a family!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #4 November 22, 2004 QuoteTreasure the gift of your family, Robert. They're worth more than gold. ltdiver Mines only worth Pyrite They're my relatives by genetics not by choiceYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyn 0 #5 November 22, 2004 Family is family regardless. You can't just look at what they've done for you. My family is fairly wealthy but I haven't benefited from it. My parents bought homes for my sister, brother and niece, but they figure my husband and I are okay financially do don't offer to do anything for us. I kind of resent that they bought homes for them, but don't do anything for us. But I love them anyway. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #6 November 22, 2004 Selling your rig to pay for a car?????WTF? Priorities, man.Priorities! Luckily I have a brother and sister that are always there for me when I need them...so much so that I feel guilty about not being able to do for them as much as they have done for me......sorry 'bout the situation , guy.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #7 November 22, 2004 i just got kicked out so i dunno. families can suck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #8 November 22, 2004 I know this may sound harsh, but as an adult I would NEVER allow my Dad to help me out. I figured I was working and had moved out and started a family thus it is my responsibility to handle all my financial obligations. If that means I have to sell something or back off from doing something I want then so be it...I'm an adult and responsible for myself. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #9 November 22, 2004 What mouth said. . . You may always give when your family has needs, but if you give expecting in return, then it is not a gift. Sorry bud, but time to grow up. They may have good reason for not assisting. . .think about that for a bit.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #10 November 22, 2004 Quote I know this may sound harsh, but as an adult I would NEVER allow my Dad to help me out. I figured I was working and had moved out and started a family thus it is my responsibility to handle all my financial obligations. If that means I have to sell something or back off from doing something I want then so be it...I'm an adult and responsible for myself. It isn't harsh. I agree with you. But sometimes you have no choice but to ask for help. I won't let my foolish pride allow my family to be on the streets. I've never asked them for help. ever. For the 3 years I fought for my son spending $125,000 in attorney fees THEY OFFERED NOTHING. They didn't even call to see how things were going? Was I alright? Family isn't blood... It's in an action. You could be a good parent for 20 years but the ONE time your children really need you and you fail them you ruined it. My parents are the old fashioned selfish type. Pisses me off. My son Ethan is 18 months old now and NEITHER of them have come to see him.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #11 November 22, 2004 A car vs Family,,whats up with that? Need more info cuz the situation sounds stupid...wallysmile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #12 November 22, 2004 QuoteYou may always give when your family has needs, but if you give expecting in return, then it is not a gift. I've never expected in return. But I do expect my family to be there for me in extreme emergencies. My endless supply of giving to them has just ran out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #13 November 22, 2004 Thing is I would never ask for help. My father has already raised me and supported my financially. I am no longer his responsibility. I think if it is import enough to you to have a car then sell your rig if need be. The rig is a luxury item IMO. Reading your post it seems you are upset with them for not helping you fight for your son...again, not their responsibility. You are upset because they haen't come to see your son...have you invited them? Can they financially afford to do so? Did you send tickeets if not? Are they physically able to do so? Have you taken your son to see them? Family is always going to be give and take. No, none of them are perfect and some are much better than others. To have a loving family you have to be willing to make the first move oftentimes. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #14 November 22, 2004 You've made some good points. But.....nothing would keep me away from seeing my grandchildren, unless of course....I wasn't welcome in my child's home. Eighteen months old though, as a grandparent, I would be trying to see my grandson. J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #15 November 22, 2004 That was my point. Have they been invited to visit? Can they afford it? See the drift here? -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #16 November 22, 2004 I definitely see your point. What's going on here? Have they asked to see him or is there no communication? J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #17 November 22, 2004 QuoteI think if it is import enough to you to have a car then sell your rig if need be. I'm trying... QuoteReading your post it seems you are upset with them for not helping you fight for your son...again, not their responsibility. I disagree, You and I have a difference in family values. My son is their grandson. I even named my son Daniel after my father. Not to mention they were lied about by my ex-wife as well. Quotehave you invited them? Many times a week, every time I talk to them for the last 7 years. QuoteCan they financially afford to do so? Easily... They have free miles because my father travels. QuoteDid you send tickeets if not? I offered and just get excuses. QuoteHave you taken your son to see them? Daniel yes. On a few occasions. The road runs BOTH ways and my giving tank is running low because it isn't being refueled. QuoteTo have a loving family you have to be willing to make the first move oftentimes. I always have. You can only give for so long without getting ANYTHING in return.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #18 November 22, 2004 This too shall pass. Hope life gets better for you. Yours in agave, Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #19 November 22, 2004 QuoteFamily isn't blood... It's in an action. As an adoptee, I've got to tell you that this is true-blood doesn't count for anything when compared to support. I hope that things work out for you.I am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #20 November 22, 2004 Wah, so your family won't help you. Tough shit, it's not their responsibility. You have a kid, so you're obviously old enough to take care of yourself. Fuckin do it, and stop expecting people to help you. If you have no choice but to sell your rig, that's the price you have to pay. If I was in financial trouble, I'd rather sell my rig or any other recreational item I have than borrow money from somebody ---- even if that somebody is family.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #21 November 22, 2004 QuoteYou could be a good parent for 20 years but the ONE time your children really need you and you fail them you ruined it. Reflect back on THAT statement when your 18 month old is 25. I raised 4 kids, 25, 22, 21, & 19. I'm sure I failed them many times. But they still love me and I love them too ... inadequacies and all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 November 22, 2004 Dude, I kinda know where you're coming from... You HAVE had it tougher than most of us realize or can understand, and the stress builds. Don't know if this is relevant... but growing up, I was never real tight with my family. 2nd of two, and sissy got all the breaks. Put myself through college, and invited them down for graduation which they came to...then I just kind of split. Worked a few jobs here and there, in & out of trouble... There were several times when I really wished I had someone I could ask for 'just a little' help...but never did and got through most of it okay... The one time (of many) that shit went REALLY sideways, I'm sitting in this '2 bit' bar, middle of the day, someplace in nowhereville Kansas... The bartender hands me the phone ...It's your Dad....! Hadn't talked to him in 6-8 months... Seemed they were just letting me 'live my life' make my mistakes and fix my own problems.. But when things were truly desperate / dangerous... they were there, ~had been 'keeping an eye' on me from a distance all along! I just hope I can be 1/2 the 'family' to my kids that they were / are to me. Don't give up on them yet....! ...and don't keep score... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #23 November 22, 2004 Quote...and don't keep score... This comment alone makes this entire thread so very worth reading. If I kept score, I'd be a very, very bitter man. Those that know me know that's just not the case. Suck it up, Rob. If you must sell, do it. You can always get another rig later.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #24 November 22, 2004 He's willing to sell his rig, it's just that he can't sell it fast enough. I hope things go well for you Rhino, you have certainly been through a lot. Personally, I can't understand why your parents aren't interested in their grandchildren. They are missing out on so much joy. But, don't write your family off. J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #25 November 22, 2004 QuoteHe's willing to sell his rig, it's just that he can't sell it fast enough. bingo.. at least someone is paying attention.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
