Gravitymaster 0 #1 November 27, 2004 I just bought a new car and got a Dolby 5.1 audio system with it. I listened to the DVD 5.1 audio disc the manuf. included with the car and was very impressed with the difference in quality between a standard CD and the DVD-A. I stopped in Best Buy tonight to buy a couple of DVD-A disc's to listen to, but the selection was really poor and most of what was available was SACD's. Does anyone know if the SACD's are comparable and/or compatable in my system? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveb 1 #2 November 27, 2004 Almost certainly not - but without the brand and model number, that's an educated guess. SACD is not a DVD format; it uses a fundamentally different physical encoding, not just a different decoding algorithm. If you are interested in the technical details, there is little better than the DVD FAQ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbone 0 #3 November 28, 2004 No matter how good the quality is, you can only make a car stereo sound so good. Unless you are parked with the engine turned off, you will not hear the subtle nuances that make the SACD or DVD-A sound better while you are driving. There is too much background noise happening in most cars to really appreciate the difference. Why do you think MP3 is so popular? People can't tell the difference in their cars! At home with headphones is a different story. Kbone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 November 28, 2004 Thanks. looks like I have so reading to do. The 6 channel surround sounds incredible in the car. I just purchased 2 more DVD-A discs tonight and didn't even want to get out of the car because the sound was so great. A regular CD sounds awesome in the car, but in comparison to the DVD-A, it's like the difference between a VCR and a DVD video. The car is an Acura TL and it is (according to Acura)the first automobile to come from the factory with a DVD-A format. I checked out Amazon.Com and they have quite a few titles, so I'll have some fresh tunes for a while. Thanks again for the info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbone 0 #5 November 28, 2004 QuoteThe car is an Acura TL and it is (according to Acura)the first automobile to come from the factory with a DVD-A format. So your stereo is stock? Most stock systems are garbage except in the more expensive cars. Get some 2 way speakers and a better deck and maybe even a subwoofer and you will hear a more dramatic difference than just using DVD-A discs. Kbone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 November 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe car is an Acura TL and it is (according to Acura)the first automobile to come from the factory with a DVD-A format. So your stereo is stock? Most stock systems are garbage except in the more expensive cars. Get some 2 way speakers and a better deck and maybe even a subwoofer and you will hear a more dramatic difference than just using DVD-A discs. Kbone With all due respect.. you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. This is an Acura. I assure you I drove BMW, Lexus, Mercedes, Infinity, Jaguar, and Porche, before I purchased and it blew all of them away. Not only the stereo system but overall performance. The stereo system is a matched 8 speaker system with a sub-woofer that will bounce you around. It also operates on voice commands and has XM1 and 2 built into it, also voice commanded. There's absolutely nothing I can think of I would add. http://www.acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=tl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbone 0 #7 November 28, 2004 8 speakers usually means 4 speaker with 4 tweeters or 4 2-way speakers. Not 8 full sized speakers. It sounds like you have a good system but lets face it, You are the exception, not the rule. People just don't understand what good sound should sound like. The wave of MP3 players is proof of this. People don't know how bad MP3 sounds and they don't care because they are stupid. Sucks to be you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #8 November 28, 2004 QuoteThe wave of MP3 players is proof of this. People don't know how bad MP3 sounds and they don't care because they are stupid. Actually, the current wave of mp3 players is due to convenience and pricing/availability. An album on a disk vs. 10 or more on a disk is the deciding factor. Many people understand that there is a trade off of quality for volume, but to label them as stupid for it is just plain moronic. Edit by Remster: Play nice Jim!It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #9 November 28, 2004 come on guys play niceLeroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 November 28, 2004 Quote8 speakers usually means 4 speaker with 4 tweeters or 4 2-way speakers. Not 8 full sized speakers. It sounds like you have a good system but lets face it, You are the exception, not the rule. People just don't understand what good sound should sound like. The wave of MP3 players is proof of this. People don't know how bad MP3 sounds and they don't care because they are stupid. Sucks to be you! That would be applicable if we were talking about MP3. By using the DVD-A format, a recording engineer can encode 7 times the data on a DVD disc as they can on a regular CD. This allows them to record music with six seperate channels instead of two. This is most likely the reason the selection is somewhat limited right now. Obviously, they are going for quality sound. Wouldn't you agree that the design intention was to give the listener the finest quality audio system available in any automobile? Do you think the engineers at Acura would then design the most intuitive integration between a DVD based GPS Navigational System, a 225 watt DVD-A Audio System by Panasonic, with XM1 and XM2, all with voice recognition, and then toss in a couple of crappy bullsh*t speakers? http://www.acura.com/models/model_gallery_showroom.asp?module=tl Click on interior showroom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbone 0 #11 December 1, 2004 Quoteand then toss in a couple of crappy bullsh*t speakers? You would be suprised how car companies cut corners. I'm not saying your stereo sucks but I would pull the grills off at some point and check to make sure you have 2-way speakers(seperate woofer and tweeter). If you do than great! Most people don't check for this and wonder why they can't hear the high frequencies. A lot of people just don't know what good audio sounds like and are impressed with a cheasy voice recognition program and a fancy face plate. Bose car stereos are a good example of this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #12 December 1, 2004 Well, both DVD-A and SACD have been around for a few years now. I have both on my home audio system. They are competing formats and neither one has truly taken off. While there is no end of debate as to which sounds better, both of them sound great and are hands down better than CD both in resolution and because of the 5.1 sound. The problem with both formats is the very limited amount of material. SACD probably has the edge mainly because Sony is the primary champion of this format and it is releasing discs from it's stable of artists. Also, its done some interesting maneuvering like basically paying for Pink Floyd to remaster into 5.1 and issues Dark Side of the Moon on SACD. Originally the intent was to issue it on DVD-A. I don't think either format will become mainstream anytime soon but I think one or both will stay around for awhile because the record companies like the copy protection on the discs (as compared to none on CD) and the equipment manufactures like selling new hardware. Here is IMHO the best DVD-A / SACD site: http://www.highfidelityreview.com/"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #13 December 1, 2004 QuotePeople just don't understand what good sound should sound like. The wave of MP3 players is proof of this. People don't know how bad MP3 sounds and they don't care because they are stupid. Sucks to be you! Not only do some of us know that MP3 sounds bad, we know why it sounds bad. I've done some work in some high end professional sound editting studios where the headphones cost more than most people's sound system, and the speakers were just amazing. I miss having sound that good, and doubt most people have had a chance to experience that. Despite that, I still have an MP3 player (with a crappy FM transmitter) that I use in the car. Why? I don't want to lose any more CD's is my car gets broken into again and I like having access to 20GBs worth of music instead of having to pack an entire bag of CDs for road trips. Then there is the ease of use of the MP3 player over a large amount of CDs in the car which is how I have ruined or lost a good portion of my collection. I've been watching DVD-A and SACD for a few years now and refuse to be an early adopter in this field, esp when another strong format may come out within the next few years. Anybody else remember the 2 inch floppy disk/drive? It was better than the 3.5 inch and came out shortly after it but it never took off. Or sometimes it just takes the right company to back a product - I saw my first optical mouse in 1990 and they didn't get big until almost 10 years later._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
