captain1976 0 #1 August 18, 2009 I ordered a new PD Spectre from DeLand and it should arrive in the next couple of weeks. Does anyone know if they come with risers or toggles? The flight specs on the PD website say something about not shortening the brakes from factory, but if they do not come with toggles and risers how do you know how much slack to put in them? ThanksYou live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaryRay 0 #2 August 18, 2009 containers have the risers/dbag/PC/toggles. canopy is just canopy and lines.JewBag. www.jewbag.wordpress.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #3 August 18, 2009 Quote canopy is just canopy and lines. And slinks.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #4 August 18, 2009 QuoteQuote canopy is just canopy and lines. And slinks. and "some sort of links". slinks or rapide links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydivesg 7 #5 August 18, 2009 The steering lines (brakes) will have a loop at the end where you just put the toggle on. The length is already set from the factory. Don't change it. It sounds like you should have a rigger or at least someone who is very knowlegable help you set up that canopy. It will come with Slinks and you need to be knowlegable about using them. Get some help.Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sangi 0 #6 August 18, 2009 Don't they come with a slider as well?"Dream as you'll live forever, live as you'll die today." James Dean Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GaryRay 0 #7 August 18, 2009 so i missed a couple things, but i answered his exact questions :). thanks for the rest of the puzzle guys.JewBag. www.jewbag.wordpress.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #8 August 18, 2009 Quote so i missed a couple things, but i answered his exact questions :). thanks for the rest of the puzzle guys. they also very often come with a Tshirt and a couple of freebees, but they are not "part of the canopy" ... oh, an owner's manual too. for the OP, generally the lower part of the steering line has a color marked spot which indicates the factory setting. As said above, get help from a rigger or equivalent. Please also read and try your best to understand the manual. Enjoy your flights and landings with your new canopyscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #9 August 18, 2009 The OP IS a rigger according to his profile. But perhaps not a very current one? A mark or loop on the brake line, in conjunction with the industry standard design of keeper ring position on the risers means that a canopy can be installed on risers that come with the container at the factory brake setting and be consistent from rig to rig.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerpaul 1 #10 August 18, 2009 QuoteI ordered a new PD Spectre from DeLand and it should arrive in the next couple of weeks. Does anyone know if they come with risers or toggles? The flight specs on the PD website say something about not shortening the brakes from factory, but if they do not come with toggles and risers how do you know how much slack to put in them? Thanks Recapping what has been said, the canopy comes with canopy, lines, slider, some sort of link to attach it to the risers, and a manual (which may be in digital form on a CD or other medium). There may also be some goodies, like a shirt or a can or bottle coolie, pullup cord(s), sew-on patches for your jumpsuit or kit bag, or other stuff like that. The goodies are not really part of the canopy, so they may vary for source to source, and from purchase to purchase. Regarding "how do you know how much slack to put in them", risers are all constructed with "standard" dimensions at the top ends, so the guide ring and the position of the toggle are pretty much the same from one set of risers to another. The overall length of the riser does not affect the slack in the brake line; having the toggle up at the keeper is when you are interested in the slack, and since all risers are pretty much standardized in that area, the slack should be the same from one set of risers to another. You may decide to fine tune the position of the toggle on the brake line at some point. Consult with a rigger or other knowledgeable person if/when you think that's needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #11 August 18, 2009 Thanks all for the info. I wasn't figuring on any goodies or extras and now can't waitYou live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #12 August 18, 2009 Quote so i missed a couple things, but i answered his exact questions :). thanks for the rest of the puzzle guys. Oh and generally a hole in your current account or Credit card (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
