linny 1 #51 December 27, 2004 QuoteOnce again, you don't know me, you have no idea what I've already done to help man kind overseas. Again, you didn't anwer the question I asked you earlier. Just because some of us are in awe with Mother Nature, that makes us insensitivite? QuoteWe all need to realize that we're all brothers and sisters here on Mother Earth... and there's a fine line between disrespect/insensitivity and using humor to "deal" with a tragedy. If you perceived some one's humor as being insensitive then there is nothing the person can say to change your mind. What makes you right and the other person wrong? I'm not sure why you've taken up arms with me. I never said anything about you helping mankind overseas or about you personally being insensitive. You being so defensive is certainly unwarranted. My original post was replying to JP, not you Mar. And certainly not to the person who said they were in awe of mother nature. I don't think being in awe of Mother Nature is insensitive at all. Somehow you must've misread my post. I have said all that I am going to say on a public forum about this. Peace to you Mar and those suffering in South East Asia right now and around the World. If anyone would like to donate to the disaster relief effort in South East Asia, I got this # off the news last night. I haven't called yet, so I hope, in my haste, I wrote it correctly. If not, I am apologize 1-800-678-7255 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #52 December 27, 2004 QuoteSep. 11th - no...didn't laugh. My reaction was WTF did I just see? Is it real? Pinch me and make me wake up. That, also, wasn't a natural disaster - that was a terrorist act. not a natural disastor but a disastor yes in deed... I dont know any names of how to heal but i know how most people does.and it all start by a cry,then speak then laugher... QuotePlease realize that no-one in this thread is saying they are glad it happened I never said so. i said it were disrespect to the people to speak like a yahoo about how cool it could have been to be there.AS I THINK that is disrespect. And i will keep thinking so. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #53 December 27, 2004 QuoteI would have to say that it is a little more than "crazy shit"...this is a horrendous atrocity which cost many many people their lives and has destroyed some of the poorest parts of the world (sri lanka) with the death toll at 23,000 already and still rising. My thoughts and prayers go out to those who have lost friends and family in this nightmare. RIP Beth xx Right on Beth, couldn't have said it better. Sad. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #54 December 27, 2004 Then it appears that we will agree to disagree. Take the emotional aspect out of it...take the people out of it. There is beauty in a tsunami...earthquake...hurricane...flood...tornado, etc.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #55 December 27, 2004 QuoteOh brother you make me cry...I'm shedding tears...of laughter! after a post like that then feel free not to call me your brother if you were so you would sit there crying by your broken nose.. You might dont think that 23000dead people are alot but if it were one of your loved once you probaly would cry like a baby. I added 911 as MOST americans got their eyes up at that point... good for you you can have fun as people are hurt,it will be rembered... Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulshine 0 #56 December 27, 2004 QuoteThen it appears that we will agree to disagree. Great diplomatic approach since this thread seems to be split 50/50 on the beauty/tragedy issue. QuoteTake the emotional aspect out of it...take the people out of it. There is beauty in a tsunami...earthquake...hurricane...flood...tornado, etc. Agreed. Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity! ~DEVIOUS BEEF~~FGF #69~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #57 December 27, 2004 QuoteQuoteKeep this attitude in SC. Who are you to dictate what attitudes are appropriate for a particuliar forum? Last I checked unless he's violating forum rules he can have any attitude he wants. As you were Time to move on Dress right dress If you want to ask me a question PM me.41 R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #58 December 27, 2004 Yes the terror of not knowing when the next wave will hit... . If you want a precise answer to that question ask the weather man or your local witch doctor - they will give you a precise sunshine-with-a-chance-of-snow answer. I am sorry that the hurricanes in Florida are not as strong as you would like them to be. I'll talk to my local Indian chief, mabe we can cook something to your liking for next seasson, just please let me know what amount of victims will calm your soul. To all you future Nobel peace rize winners: I reserve the right to enjoy extremities of weather and natural disasters. I will seek them out and if possible delight myself with letting nature exercise it's wrath on my own skin. I will run on golf courses during thunderstorms, I will chase hurricanes, I will volunteer to put out forest fires (now thats scary shit) climb active volcanos, jump out of airplanes, climb rocks and face nasty animals in their natural habitats. I will go into unknown caves and seek out any way I can experience this world. Don't be little arrogant humans. We have been on this planet for a very short period and as humanity we have not even experienced nature's gentle burp!jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #59 December 27, 2004 Ok, huge difference between what mother nature does to us humans and what we do to ourselves....not sure how many times it will have ot be said. It is the shear fact of what mother nature is capible of that is so impressive and awe inspiring.... 9-11....was a HUMAN INTENT TO DESTORY not nature, someone sat down and planned that out. No where did he make any comment about how funny it was that people died, his comments were directly to the point that it is just amazing. I will tell you right now, as humans we are FUCKED...if you havent noticed this shit is happening more and more with mother nature. She is pissed, and is showing us her wrath. It will continue to get worse. The abilty to respect nature for what she can do to us, is not Cruel or Insensive....now where did he say anything like "haha those fuckers all died" his comments and everyone else in awe of the shear power of nature, were just that, in awe of what we have 0 control over.....and that is amazing...She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #60 December 27, 2004 Just a thought: If a skydiver you knew went in doing something crazy, what would your attitude be? Would you be: saying "damn that was awesome!" or mourning your friend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #61 December 27, 2004 QuoteTake the emotional aspect out of it...take the people out of it. There is beauty in a tsunami...earthquake...hurricane...flood...tornado, etc. try the same by 911,think of the flames the bangs just like new years eve right.. guess not this is ending up in rambling and i do not which to. all i wanted to say were that i saw some misrespect to the dead once. I do also belive that natral forces are amasing but i dont say out loud as people still dies that i would like to see such... try turn it 180 degrees take your tsunami...earthquake...hurricane...flood...tornado, etc. out of it and then look at the rest... Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #62 December 27, 2004 QuoteJust a thought: If a skydiver you knew went in doing something crazy, what would your attitude be? Would you be: saying "damn that was awesome!" or mourning your friend? And how does that apply to this thread? Sep. 11th doesn't even really apply to this thread. The ones that everyone is getting their undies in a bundle about are the ones that have said NATURE is awe inspiring in her fierceness and beauty. You are talking about something that has nothing to do with NATURE.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soulshine 0 #63 December 27, 2004 QuoteJust a thought: If a skydiver you knew went in doing something crazy, what would your attitude be? Would you be: saying "damn that was awesome!" or mourning your friend? A skydiver burning in is not thing of nature. If he goes in from a crazy stunt then you shed a tear and try to learn a lesson. A wall of water 50 feet tall wiping out everything in its path is a true thing of beauty warranting my respect and awe. Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity! ~DEVIOUS BEEF~~FGF #69~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #64 December 27, 2004 "I added 911 as MOST americans got their eyes up at that point... " When did most Danes 'get their eyes up'? In May of 1940? jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #65 December 27, 2004 QuoteQuoteTake the emotional aspect out of it...take the people out of it. There is beauty in a tsunami...earthquake...hurricane...flood...tornado, etc. try the same by 911,think of the flames the bangs just like new years eve right.. guess not this is ending up in rambling and i do not which to. all i wanted to say were that i saw some misrespect to the dead once. I do also belive that natral forces are amasing but i dont say out loud as people still dies that i would like to see such... try turn it 180 degrees take your tsunami...earthquake...hurricane...flood...tornado, etc. out of it and then look at the rest... Faber...As I said...we will agree to disagree. NATURE vs HUMAN's...totally different. One people can not control (NATURE), the other can be controlled (HUMAN - aka terrorist acts, etc.). You want to discuss flames? Fire is a beautiful thing - have you ever stared into fire and noticed the different colors of the flames? Have you ever seen the beauty of the flames of different ignitors and fuel sources? Again...murder (aka Sep. 11th) is not the same as a natural disaster (aka tsunami). Please do not confuse the two.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #66 December 27, 2004 Quoteif you were so you would sit there crying by your broken nose.. is that a threat??? BACK OFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #67 December 27, 2004 Quote9-11....was a HUMAN INTENT TO DESTORY not nature, someone sat down and planned that out. i see your point but are you saying that if its natural then its ok that people dies?? hmm Quotenow where did he say anything like "haha those fuckers all died" his comments and everyone else in awe of the shear power of nature no he did not. but how would you feel again 911 if some one wanted just to watch it as it were amasing that 2 planes crashed into the buildings? how often do you see that... to me the person who has the desire to want to see stuff like that must understand that most of us dont like that idea. not to prevent them to see so if theyre at thouse places,but the fact that people dies from this... Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #68 December 27, 2004 QuoteWhen did most Danes 'get their eyes up'? In May of 1940? more early but how should you know... Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #69 December 27, 2004 QuoteYes the terror of not knowing when the next wave will hit... . If you want a precise answer to that question ask the weather man or your local witch doctor - they will give you a precise sunshine-with-a-chance-of-snow answer. I am sorry that the hurricanes in Florida are not as strong as you would like them to be. I'll talk to my local Indian chief, mabe we can cook something to your liking for next seasson, just please let me know what amount of victims will calm your soul. To all you future Nobel peace rize winners: I reserve the right to enjoy extremities of weather and natural disasters. I will seek them out and if possible delight myself with letting nature exercise it's wrath on my own skin. I will run on golf courses during thunderstorms, I will chase hurricanes, I will volunteer to put out forest fires (now thats scary shit) climb active volcanos, jump out of airplanes, climb rocks and face nasty animals in their natural habitats. I will go into unknown caves and seek out any way I can experience this world. Don't be little arrogant humans. We have been on this planet for a very short period and as humanity we have not even experienced nature's gentle burp! Jraf Dude your putting a spin on my comments about the hurricane's that hit florida. But thats your bussiness not mine. Just setting the record straight How you get your rocks off is your business. That's not what this event is about. nice hijack btw R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #70 December 27, 2004 Quotei see your point but are you saying that if its natural then its ok that people dies?? Um hello....we are a part of nature, and when it is damn ready to take us it will...Death sucks but it is a part of life, as is nature...there is a difference... Death by human intent, vs death by natural disaster is apples to oranges... So can you compare this natural occurance to that of the germans in WW2????? no you cant, nor can you compair it to 9-11.....so stop.She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #71 December 27, 2004 No, Faber...NO ONE in this thread is saying that humans dieing is good/ok/great/etc. Remember my statement from an earlier post - remove the people...remove the emotions...look at what nature can do. Take a tsunami...put it in a place where all humans and life (animals, birds, insects, etc.) have been removed from the location and are 100% safe and watch what nature does. Look at the beauty of the ocean swelling with such large waves. Feel the power of nature. That is what people are commenting on.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #72 December 27, 2004 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if you were so you would sit there crying by your broken nose.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is that a threat??? BACK OFF his nose wouldnt break then.. Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #73 December 27, 2004 QuoteTake a tsunami...put it in a place where all humans and life (animals, birds, insects, etc.) have been removed from the location and are 100% safe and watch what nature does. Look at the beauty of the ocean swelling with such large waves. Feel the power of nature. That is what people are commenting on. besides such a place dosnt exist but a place were 23000 people just died does.. Its ok that you guys dont want to talk human disastors. but what about florida,and were were it that you had a big fire this year aswell. did you guys rush out there to be apart of it just to watch?? Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #74 December 27, 2004 Nature is powerful. This was a devistating event. Still waiting to hear if a neighbor is okay. She was in Bali but left to travel more in that area. Bali was okay, but we don't know exactly where she was when this hit. Still praying. To those that think natural disasters are magnificent and impressive... I agree. But I agree looking back on them, long after the pain of losing loved ones has subsided. Please try to respect each other. Some people out there are hurting right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quatorze 1 #75 December 27, 2004 Quoteits natural then its ok that people dies?? what is more natural then that? I'm not afriad of dying, I'm afraid of never really living- Erin Engle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
