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Any ideas for a spa/winery?



Oh my gosh, that sounds nice too! I didn't even think about pampering ourselves. I wonder where we could go?
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Any ideas for a spa/winery?



Oh my gosh, that sounds nice too! I didn't even think about pampering ourselves. I wonder where we could go?



There are a few places in ATL but not sure if you'd want to do that or maybe look for somewhere new. I'm all about looking after me lately and a day or two of pampering sounds wonderful.

What do you think of a w/e at a serious spa?

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Its been a long time since I did the Euro pass thing...

We found it to be a decent deal... not great, but decent. You need to make large tarin trips to make it worthwhile, and some contries train fees are so low you dont save much if you do a lot of thavel within them (spain for exemple).

If you go for a long time, and you want to do several large train trips, its probably worth it. If you stay for a short time (2 weeks or less), I would say dont bother and just buy a train ticket if you want o go somewhere.
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What do you think of a w/e at a serious spa?



Oh my gosh...sounds AMAZING!!! :)
Andrea, I've taken trains in Europe and felt that it was fine. What part specifically are you thinking of traveling to? Btw, the Spain/Italy/France combo...is awesome! The only thing is that you need some more time to properly travel to those places, especially to Italy, which has sooo much to see. (Btw, Italy is my favorite!)

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What do you think of a w/e at a serious spa?



A weekend spa trip sounds heavenly! I've never done anything like that before. Heck, I've never even had a real manicure or pedicure! :ph34r: I wonder if they do any of the spa stuff around the wineries like in NC? Hmmm...
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

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I traveled all around Europe on a EuroRail pass. It was great! And although that was a long time ago, I would still reccommend it. The European trains are a lot more comfortable than the typical Amtrak train, even without paying extra for a sleeper or a "first class" car, and most countries have their own version of a super fast train- in France I think its a TGV?

I'm kind of jealous- I hope you do the European thing and visit a couple of different countries! Do yourself a favor and take at least two weeks, preferably three! Its kind of a once in a lifetime trip and you should make the most of it.

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The trains in Europe are the only way to go, especially between countries. They arrive and depart on time, have halfway decent food, and first class upgrades are cheap, on the Eurail pass, and worth it for the longer trips.

Check out the BritRail pass website. I think they had a deal that included France, and splitting time between London and Paris would be a great trip with day rail trips to areas further out.

The reason passenger train service sucks in the US is that it is secondary to freight traffic, so Amtrack gets put on sidings while container shipments get priority.

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Check out the BritRail pass website. I think they had a deal that included France, and splitting time between London and Paris would be a great trip with day rail trips to areas further out.



I really depends what you want....

You can EASILY spend 2 weeks in Paris or London and only scratch the surface. Yes, you can skim even more buy staying 2 days at each and travel out more, so it really is a case of wanting 1 of 2 things:

- do you want to explore 1 or 2 places, taking your time, and getting a litle more settled in each; or

- do you want to see it all and not really see anything at all (yes, I am biased... lol)
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Check out the BritRail pass website. I think they had a deal that included France, and splitting time between London and Paris would be a great trip with day rail trips to areas further out.



I really depends what you want....

You can EASILY spend 2 weeks in Paris or London and only scratch the surface. Yes, you can skim even more buy staying 2 days at each and travel out more, so it really is a case of wanting 1 of 2 things:

- do you want to explore 1 or 2 places, taking your time, and getting a litle more settled in each; or

- do you want to see it all and not really see anything at all (yes, I am biased... lol)



Well, some American folks will only get to Europe once in their lifetimes. A week in Paris and a week in London wouldn't be a bad choice for a two week trip.

If it's just one week, then only one country is the only way to go. The 15 countries in 14 day trips should be outlawed.

I'm telling you Andrea, Skreamer's place is ideal. You could probably work out a deal where only your boyfriend had to sleep on the couch. :P

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hey Andrea,

If you're looking for affordable summer travel, I would definitely look at some places in Europe/Italy that are off the beaten path. Anywhere in Paris/London/Switzerland is going to be terribly expensive, especially if you don't want to camp or stay in hostels. I actually got around cheaper just buying tickets for the Eurail instead of buying a pass, it's just not worth it if you're spending less than a month over there. Some places I would check out are:

* ANYWHERE not on the Euro currency yet. The dollar is rapidly losing against it, and so you'll lose money just going over there

*PRAGUE! I have friends who have stayed there for like a week on 50 bucks, everything is so cheap. A beer is like 3 cents. It's also one of the oldest cities in Europe, and all the buildings are stunning. You feel like you're in a time warp just walking around

*Cinque Terra in Italy. It's a little set of five towns right on the Mediterranean, with a trail along the coastal cliffs linking all the towns. The trail itself is amazing in the summer, the ocean is so blue, and the prices are really reasonable for Italy in the summer. If you go, have dinner in the little restaurant on the cliff in Monte Roso, it's the best homemade pesto ever. I can't remember the name, but any local will be able to tell you how to get there.

*Sligo in Ireland. It's also not a huge town like Dublin, and I just stayed in a B&B for a week for like 20 bucks a night. The north west of Ireland is the best part of it (at least I think so). If you're looking to go even quainter and cheaper, go to Doolin, which is like 50 miles north (where the Cliffs of Moher are), because it's got the best traditional music pub I went to over there.

This is so exciting! Oh, and if you are interested in Costa Rica, the SA guy going over there is my fiance's brother, so let me know if I can help you get in touch with him

mua!

Brie
"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie

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Wow, these hints are great! B|

I think Europe is it. I can probably swing 2 weeks but I don't think my boyfriend can. We might be able to squeeze in 10 days, counting weekends in. Everything sounds so cool, I don't know where to start! I have seen the major sites in London, so maybe I should focus on other areas more on this trip.


Mouth and anyone else...let's look into the spa weekend too! I really want to do both of these trips. I'm bringing 40 in with style! ;)
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

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Not sure if your interested in cruises at all, but my aunt and uncle went on a European cruise last year...I cant remember if they went for 7 nights or 10 nights, but I know they loved it..They did a Western Meditteranean...from what I remember it stoppped in Barcelona, Spain; Marseille, France; and parts of Italy (I think they were able to see Florence, Pisa, Rome, and Naples) They were able to find a really nice, fairly inexpensive package deal on orbitz which included airfare to Barcelona, one night hoel, and the cruise....

The nice thing is that you get to see a lot, but I guess the downside is that you only get about 12 hours in each spot....

*daizey*

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Wow, I guess that I am "anyone else". Now I know what the Professor and Maryanne felt like!



You, my wonderful friend, Rosa, and any other women who are reading this and would like to come along for a fun weekend. Silly girl! :ph34r:
She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man,
because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon

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I'm bringing 40 in with style!



HUM, I may just revisit 40 since I didn't do anything last year at the time because of who I was with. (He didn't even give me a gift until weeks later...men.) We'll celebrate mine a year and change late!:)

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my roommate and I went to Ireland a few years ago. I was shocked at how cheap it was. Our airfare was around $300. (I just checked AerLingus, it's now around $500 for may-july from los angeles. Probably cheaper from florida)

We flew to Dublin, had reservations there for our first and last nights in Ireland, and the rest we just planned as we went along, talking to locals about what to do.

Our car rental for the two weeks was $600 or so, and we were paying the penalty fees for being under 25 years old.

We stayed in bed and breakfasts. You can find really nice ones for around $30 a night per person. They're much cheaper than hotels. B&Bs are also really nice because you can talk to the owner, who generally knows the local area really well and can recommend particular tours or places to visit.

In dublin, we stayed in a hostel. There's no age limit on hostels, you just have to be from outside the country. The hostel was around $14 a night per person.

I've got my whole trip logged on my website (linked below in my sig line).

I'd say that without factoring in souvenirs, we probably did the trip on less than $1500 per person, and we could've gone a lot cheaper.

I'd highly recommend any of the rick steves guidebooks (www.ricksteves.com) for anywhere you go in europe. His book saved our tails a couple of times. He lists hotels, b&bs and ranks activities, so you have a really good idea of what to see and what to skip. He also has small group trips that he organizes through his company. I haven't been on one, but some of my friends have, and they give their wholehearted recommendation, if you're looking for a pre-set itinerary and food and rooms pre-paid.

I'm hoping to scrounge the money to go back there this summer. Even though I spent two weeks there, there is so much more to see and do!

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Hello Andrea,
The area around Grenoble is beautiful if you are considering a summer trip too France, I stayed there for a few days in a lovely small guest house over looking the mountains.
Rail links are good for Paris and the South of France though you would probably want to rent a car to explore the area around Grenoble, There is a good choice of restaurant and bars in the city with a nice relaxed feel to the place.
Andrea take a look at this link tourisme Grenoble.
http://www.grenoble-isere-tourisme.com/english/defaulthtml.htm


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If you wanna make a european tour (but how? long budget?), i'd recommend 3 days in London, 3 in Paris, then 2 in Bruxelles, 2-3 in Amsterdam, 1 in Luxembourg, then towards Italy(Rome, Venise--5days) via Germany or better, Switzerland(2-3 days stop)....if you re still hungry, you can then do the south coast of France (make a stop somewhere like Nice/Monaco/Marseille (i guess the most touristic should be Nice) and then head towards Spain...and there Portugal's just a step away...i know it probably is unrealistic unless you've got one month to travel.

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