Salsa_John 0 #26 January 10, 2005 Because the whale was deceased and could not authorize me to quote him... ;) And because I am not so HIP that I can barely see over my pelvis, otherwise I would quote Zaphod "You did what?!?!" MUFF #3722, TDSM #72, Orfun #26, Nachos Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #27 January 10, 2005 I'm currently reading a book called "emergence" which has an interesting take on human behavior. Basically we do an incredible amount of subconscious processing when it comes to determining what other people's attitudes, desires etc are. It's a survival mechanism for any social animal - if we can determine that guy A wants to kill us, guy B wants to steal our grapes and guy C is just wondering if it's going to rain, we would do well to avoid A and B in favor of C. So we've evolved these mechanisms that allow us to read a lot into glances, facial expressions, movements, tone of voice etc. All of this operates at a really low level, and thus often we will get "feelings" about people we can't explain. Sometimes it will be a creepy feeling, sometimes it will be a good feeling. A lot of 'chemistry' is based on those feelings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #28 January 10, 2005 QuoteI'm currently reading a book called "emergence" That sounds interesting. Who is it by? QuoteA lot of 'chemistry' is based on those feelings. That's really interesting, too. It's funny how funny feelings about people turn out to be true and whatnot. I wonder how some of that is more developed in some individuals and lacking in others. Bill, you have to have the most interesting library of anyone I know!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #29 January 10, 2005 QuoteI wonder how some of that is more developed in some individuals and lacking in others. It seems that sometimes children and animals have better instincts about people than adults because adults tend to rationalize strange feelings due to outside interference (stress and other distractions, etc.) . Children/animals seem to go more with their primal instincts. They don't know why, but sometimes they instantly do not like or want to be around certain people. Fear or uncertainty towards something or someone else is something that adults have more control over. Although, I do think that people can develop even better judgment of people's character than even children/animals by going with not only their feelings or instinct, but also by practical observations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #30 January 10, 2005 >Who is it by? Emergence: The Connected Lives of Ants, Brains, Cities, and Software by Steven Johnson Also try Smart Mobs: The Next Social Revolution by Howard Rheingold (part of my effort to understand DZ.com and how it's changing) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #31 January 10, 2005 TLC did a spot on this a while ago, the name eludes me but it was something like human nature or human attraction. They went into good detail how the human body reacts when it sees a mate and the brain when in love, the whole phermone thing down to the psych aspects of it. It wasn't a bad piece but the summation of it was basically that we know something happens but we haven't figured out the "why" vallerina can look at two seemingly identical males yet be attracted to only one of them(not saying thats the case)."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #32 January 10, 2005 Thanks, Bill!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeordieSkydiver 0 #33 January 10, 2005 QuoteChemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. Sunny, that is just so god damn funny. Totally true aswell.Lee _______________________________ In a world full of people, only some want to fly, is that not crazy? http://www.ukskydiver.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #34 January 10, 2005 QuoteChemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. Oooh, I like that! Personally, I prefer physics...less mystery. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #35 January 10, 2005 QuoteChemistry is good when you make love with it. Chemistry is bad when you make crack with it. LOL, ok confess now. I saw Adam Sandler say that last night. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeordieSkydiver 0 #36 January 10, 2005 QuoteLOL, ok confess now. I saw Adam Sandler say that last night. Damn it, no wonder I always laugh.Lee _______________________________ In a world full of people, only some want to fly, is that not crazy? http://www.ukskydiver.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #37 January 10, 2005 Salsa John... I knew there had to be a good reasons for the quote...poor whale- at least he got some freefall time in. Vanilla Sky Girl - so by your theory, if I do precieve or act on those impulses... does it make me more childish... or an animals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #38 January 10, 2005 QuoteOne thing I've never understood is chemistry between two people. I never understood how there could be two guys who are extremely similar, but I'll only have chemistry with one. I never understood how one person could feel chemistry and not the other. There is a common denominator. The guys I've had chemistry with I laugh a lot with. However, there are guys that are attractive/fun/nice/smart/etc, and I'll laugh a lot with them, but there's no chemistry. I can't help you understand the chemistry thing. I can tell you that I can relate, though. Being in a male dominated CRW discipline and having to travel a lot, I've met a lot of different types of men. I'm sure if I tried, I could get "lucky" a lot. But if the chemistry isn't there, it just isn't happening. I can't make myself feel something that isn't there. If you ever find that chemistry with someone, it's a great feeling. It makes you want to sing from the rooftops and dance in the rain. There's nothing you wouldn't do for that person to make them happy. But a lot of times, people chemistry is the same as chemistry in the lab. Everything is going fine and then all of the sudden BOOM!!! and it all blows up in your face. When that happens, it's one of the most gut wrenching moments of your life, blindsiding you and making you ask youself, "What in the hell just happened?" Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #39 January 11, 2005 QuoteLOL, ok confess now. I saw Adam Sandler say that last night I never took credit for it. I told quite a few people where i heard that quote. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #40 January 11, 2005 The Smell of Love: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=35284&page=3 QuoteCAN YOU SMELL THAT SMELL? Since humans show little interest in one another's urine, few researchers thought that the story of MHC in rodent attraction could shed light on human interactions. But then someone made an eyebrow-raising discovery: Human volunteers can discriminate between mice that differ genetically only in their MHC. If human noses could detect small differences in the immune systems of mice (mice!) by giving the critters a sniff, excited researchers realized, we may well be able to detect the aromatic by-products of the immune system in human body odor as well! A team led by Claus Wedekind at the University of Bern in Switzerland decided to see whether MHC difference. men's apocrine gland secretions affected women's ratings on male smells. The team recruited just under 100 college students. Males and females were sought from different schools, to reduce the chances that they knew each other. The men were given untreated cotton T-shirts to wear as they slept alone for two consecutive nights. They were told not to eat spicy foods; not to use deodorants, cologne, or perfumed soaps; and to avoid smoking, drinking, and sex during the two-day experiment. During the day, their sweaty shirts were kept in sealed plastic containers. And then came the big smell test. For two weeks prior, women had used a nasal spray to protect the delicate mucous membranes lining the nose. Around the time they were ovulating (when their sense of smell is enhanced), the women were put alone in a room and presented with boxes containing the male volunteers' shirts. First they sniffed a new, unworn shirt to control for the scent of the shirts themselves. Then the women were asked to rate each man's shirt for "sexiness," "pleasantness," and "intensity of smell." SEXY GENES It was found, by Wedekind and his team, that how women rate a man's body odor pleasantness and sexiness depends upon how much of their MHC profile is shared............. ........Nobody yet knows what roles MHC may play in male evaluations of female attractiveness. Females' superior sense of smell, however, may well be due to their need to more carefully evaluate a potential mates merits--a poor mate choice for male ancestors may have meant as little as a few minutes wasted, whereas a human females mistake could result in a nine-month-long "morning after" and a child unlikely to survive. FOOLING MOTHER NATURE The Swiss researchers found that women taking oral contraceptives (which block conception by tricking the body into thinking it's pregnant) reported reversed preferences, liking more the smells that reminded them of home and kin. Since the Pill reverses natural preferences, a woman may feel attracted to men she wouldn't normally notice if she were not on birth control--men who have similar MHC profiles. Personally speaking, I feel that most people's understanding of chemistry and "butterflies in the stomach" is a combination of lust and fear of rejection._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #41 January 11, 2005 Quote........Nobody yet knows what roles MHC may play in male evaluations of female attractiveness. Females' superior sense of smell So is that the scientific reason why guys sniff womens panties?"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #42 January 11, 2005 Quotea combination of looks, personality, intelligence, and phermones. All humans are very driven by smells. I met a girl once, who had a good combination of the above plus phermones. Something about the way she smelled (not perfume) drove me nuts. my two cents Yup. There is nothing new, the general concept is more or less understood, but of course there are a lot of details to uncover. I believe the term chemistry comes from 'biological attraction' which is regulated by several factors (voice, visual appearance) with phermons playing a major role. Basically, chemistry is biochemical compatibility (simplified explanation). Everything else is attraction that can be supported by biochemical compatibility or can be not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #43 January 11, 2005 QuoteQuote........Nobody yet knows what roles MHC may play in male evaluations of female attractiveness. Females' superior sense of smell So is that the scientific reason why guys sniff womens panties? That doesn't explain why they wear them on their head._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #44 January 11, 2005 I suppose they refer to main histocompatibility complex (MHC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #45 January 11, 2005 MAJOR hisotcompatibility complex. Not no little Capt ones.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #46 January 11, 2005 You are right ... The last immunology class I took was in Russia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #47 January 11, 2005 It's ok... maybe you're just spending too much time decipering code (REAL code... not that silly computer code stuffs) Or maybe too much time jumping.... Either one sounds more fun than remembering immunology (((((shudder))))) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #48 January 11, 2005 Real code is actually quite boring - just four letters in different combinations Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #49 January 11, 2005 4 very important letters.... but mess one up and it can get quite exciting..... (or maybe silent - but where's the fun in that.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #50 January 11, 2005 LOL That's exactly what we do – mess up with genes and see what happens Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
