jumpwally 0 #26 January 21, 2005 I don't know you,,but some how I don't think your ass is fat at all !!! ;-)smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #27 January 21, 2005 I read an "I learned about flying from that" article in flying magazine years ago about spin training in a very early tomahawk. The aircraft was known to have some spin recovery issues, so they decided to borrow some emergency rigs before doing the spin training. To make a long story short, they entered an unrecoverable spin, but with plenty of time to bail out. The tomahawk has two doors, but both share a common latch. Well, the latch stuck and they couldn't get the doors open. They kept fighting the spin all the way down to about 500 feet or something when suddenly, for no apparent reason, the plane recovered itself. They pulled up, turned to the airport, and made a normal landing. A mechanic had to get the doors open for them from the outside. It turned out that that plane was built before piper started putting stall strips on the wings. Stall strips are just pieces of metal that sharpen the leading edge near the wing root to cause a predictable stall, starting near the root so the ailerons stay effective deeper into the stall. They got added to that aircraft and the problem was solved. But yeah, my instructor had told me previously that we couldn't spin the tomahawk. I asked why during a flight and she said "well, we CAN, it's just not very good for the plane. wanna try??" So we went up to 7000 feet and did some spins. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #28 January 21, 2005 It was very cool to see the films of the Boeing 777 doing stall recovery testing, including while turning. Being at the front of such a long plane and having it pitch down must have been a lot of fun. They had to do a lot of tuning of the autoslat system to get it to recover without too much roll (there is a limit to how much you can roll while recovering from a regular stall).People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,467 #29 January 21, 2005 I was fortunate enough to have an instructor who wanted me to do spins for my PPL. I found them easier to recover from than a power on stall (course, he also had me take it to full rather than eminent stall). Others I've talked to found spins more difficult than stalls.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #30 January 21, 2005 my CFi when I was getting my PPL, who was also the DZO we did 3 full turns spins in a C-150 and then started the recovery. One day we were doing them again.. at 5000 feel just as I was coming out spin.. he grabbed the conrols, so I let go.. do a quick scan of the panel.. every thing was correct... i'm like?? and he increased airspeed to deep in yellow.. then suddenly we were doing a full loop in the C-150.. the CFI / DZO started laughing.. and I said what are you laughing about?? That was fun! He said.. shouldn't have done that with you.. when I asked why not he said because "Monkey see, Monkey do... btw neither of us had an emergency rig on.. and no this was a regular Cessna 150 not a Cessna aerobat 152.. Have to loop it right as wings weren't for rated for loops...but again.. spin recovery is fun. I think spin entery and recovery should be part of the PPL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites