turtlespeed 226 #26 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteSomeone define "nice guy" Someone define "bad boy" If we're going by the typical definitions you end up hearing when this conversation comes around, a 'nice guy' is the one that cares, he listens, he consoles, he's the friend. The 'bad boy' doesn't do everything a good boyfriend is supposed to do, and doesn't seem to care. Add to that the "Nice Guy" seems to wear his heart on a sleeve. The bad boy seems to be associated with cutting down and the "treats like shit" category.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #27 January 25, 2005 QuoteAll this sex talk really isn't helping me today. 2 words.. Energizer Bunny Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #28 January 25, 2005 I think it might also depend on who's doing the defining. If someone is a self proclaimed "nice guy" they might just be making excuses for themselves. I'm nice. But I don't lament about it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #29 January 25, 2005 I don't think your campaign is working out so well! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #30 January 25, 2005 QuoteIf someone is a self proclaimed "nice guy" they might just be making excuses for themselves. I'm nice. But I don't lament about it. Couldn't agree more. There are genuinely nice guys out there with the girl they want to be with. It's the ones using it as an excuse that have ruined the phrase to the point that I feel something must be done. QuoteI don't think your campaign is working out so well! Rome wasn't built in a day! Mark my words - one day when you hear "Nice guys finish last" you'll think of two people in bed, not a poor heartbroken male.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #31 January 25, 2005 A few of the self-proclaimed "nice guys" are just whiners anyway. They complain that they are being rejected by the Prom Queen because they are too nice. Fact is, the PQ is trying to get the best man she can find, and the nice guy isn't it. They know the truth, they are trying to play the sympathy angle to justify the rejection. I can't stand liars or whiners. The guy who plays Ross on Friends should lose his guy-card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 January 25, 2005 So what you are saying is that the typical nice guy is a door mat.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #33 January 25, 2005 QuoteSo what you are saying is that the typical nice guy is a door mat. No, guys without spines are doormats. Nice guys treat people with respect. Sometimes, nice guys get rejected just like everyone else in the world. People with self-esteem don't take it too hard when they get rejected.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #34 January 25, 2005 QuoteSo what you are saying is that the typical nice guy is a door mat. Nope. I am saying that some are. Some "nice guys" are grasping at any opportunity. The ones that irritate me are the ones with unrealistic expectations. Anything that I say about men, goes for women also. I favor honesty and dealing with the consequences. Honesty about your self-image, what you are, and what you want. Then, if they walk away, deal with it. If all you want is sex, say that. (In this thread, that seems to define "bad boy" for some reason.) A lot of women like some casual sex every so often too. If you want a caring relationship, find that. If you are a dork, don't expect the prom queen to date you. If you are nice and quiet, don't expect the wild and crazy chick to date you. Conversely, if you are the guy who wants to swim naked in the swoop pond, don't ask out the quiet chick. People should find someone with similar needs and goals. Disaster occurs when they find someone attractive and try to mold them into their desired person. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #35 January 25, 2005 This happens every time we are online at the same time. You answer a post with my answer before I get it typed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #36 January 25, 2005 Quote This happens every time we are online at the same time. You answer a post with my answer before I get it typed. That's because you're old and slow. QuoteI favor honesty and dealing with the consequences. But.... but.... but it's so much easier to just blame it on being too nice! (BTW - to clear things up, I am calling the typical whiney nice guy always-a-friend-never-a-lover a door mat)it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #37 January 25, 2005 Quote This happens every time we are online at the same time. You answer a post with my answer before I get it typed. Hey! Great minds think alike! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Breezejunky 0 #38 January 25, 2005 QuoteSomeone define "nice guy" Not so hot QuoteSomeone define "bad boy" Hot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #39 January 25, 2005 How do you point out to someone who is clearly NOT a nice guy that "them being a nice guy" is not why they get rejected? (Not you, Turtle). Some people are so oblivious to the fact that they're fuckers. I'm well aware that I'm a bitch, so I'm not being a hypocrite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #40 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuote This happens every time we are online at the same time. You answer a post with my answer before I get it typed. That's because you're old and slow. QuoteI favor honesty and dealing with the consequences. But.... but.... but it's so much easier to just blame it on being too nice! (BTW - to clear things up, I am calling the typical whiney nice guy always-a-friend-never-a-lover a door mat) Ha! See. Neener Neener Val! PftftftftftI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #41 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote This happens every time we are online at the same time. You answer a post with my answer before I get it typed. That's because you're old and slow. QuoteI favor honesty and dealing with the consequences. But.... but.... but it's so much easier to just blame it on being too nice! (BTW - to clear things up, I am calling the typical whiney nice guy always-a-friend-never-a-lover a door mat) Ha! See. Neener Neener Val! Pftftftftft Well, usually they are doormats! I haven't found someone who has complained about being a nice guy have a ton of self-esteem and not be a doormat! On the flipside, I've even found "assholes" who were doormats.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #42 January 25, 2005 Ahhh...Actually, I see where you mistook what he said. Typical whiney guys are just a subset of nice guys. So, what defines a subset does not define the whole set. Nice guys who don't whine about being nice are not necessarily doormats.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #43 January 25, 2005 QuoteHow do you point out to someone who is clearly NOT a nice guy that "them being a nice guy" is not why they get rejected? (Not you, Turtle). Some people are so oblivious to the fact that they're fuckers. I'm well aware that I'm a bitch, so I'm not being a hypocrite. What does this mean? I read : Turtle, you are an ass - Which is ok - I just need it simplified, it's been a long day. I still need a cuddlenap.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ifall 0 #44 January 25, 2005 Dude, now I figured out why your avatar looks familiar. It's on the Skydive Greene County homepage. Ok, back to your discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #45 January 25, 2005 It might seem to say that, except for that all important "Not you, Turtle". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #46 January 25, 2005 If I understand women even remotely, I believe it has little to do with nice guy or not and more to do with self-confidence. Most assholes have an inflated egos that comes off at least in part as self confidence, most “nice guys” lack that self confidence. Women, I believe do not want to walk all over the guy nor do they want the guy to walk all over them, but given a choice between the two would rather have the later or none at all. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #47 January 25, 2005 So you don't finish last. Ok. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainbo 0 #48 January 26, 2005 QuoteSo you don't finish last. Ok. ME, ME, ME...Pick me, I want to finish lastRainbo TheSpeedTriple - Speed is everything "Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #49 January 26, 2005 wow... just wow... that's all I got... ScottLivin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #50 January 26, 2005 QuoteRome wasn't built in a day! Mark my words - one day when you hear "Nice guys finish last" you'll think of two people in bed, not a poor heartbroken male dude, start a web site..... before ya know it it will be linkd on skydiving forums and everywhere else..... you could do it very esily... all ya need is a web site..... maybe remix the star wars kid into it to be your spokesman......... it would work i swear!!! ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
