wildblue 7 #1 January 25, 2005 I think this phrase has been distorted - I'm pretty sure the original intent was that nice guy finish last in bed (see, the fortune cookie thing works on dz.com as well) Somehow it's come to mean nice guys don't ever get the girl. Well, sometimes assholes don't get the girl either, they just don't whine about it as much! So, help me fix this - next time someone says "Nice guys finish last" you are to respond with "yeah, most women like that in a lover" I think together, we can right this wrong and bring this phrase back to its original glory. Thank you for your support.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linny 1 #3 January 25, 2005 yea but it was pretty much true the other way too. Sorry, can't join your campaign. edit to add quote from my favorite band: Nice guys finish dead fuckin last. Being fucking nice will get you no where fast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #4 January 25, 2005 I have found that most women go for the bad boy type at first, but want to change him into the nice guy. Which means you are right and wrong. Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #5 January 25, 2005 All this sex talk really isn't helping me today.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blind_Jumper 0 #6 January 25, 2005 What is better finishing last...or finishing with low quality...picky people out there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #7 January 25, 2005 QuoteWhat is better finishing last...or finishing with low quality...picky people out there Which is better?! Or did you mean 'high' quality? In which case, if the girl finished, you were probably doing halfway decent. Quoteyea but it was pretty much true the other way too. Sorry, can't join your campaign. Not really. Assholes don't always get the girl either, they just don't wallow in self-pity as much.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #8 January 25, 2005 QuoteAssholes don't always get the girl either, they just don't wallow in self-pity as much. Yeah, they do. Anyone who doesn't have a self-esteem and places their worth into what others think will always wallow in self-pity. Sometimes, those guys are nice. Sometimes, they are jerks. I don't think it matters either way. Once again, if being nice is all you've got, it's not enough!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #9 January 25, 2005 It's all a perspective thing. Nice Girl dumps guy: Nice guy thinks "What is wrong with me" Bad guy thinks "What is wrong with her" Bad Girl dumps guy: Nice guy thinks "What a bitch" Bad guy thinks "What a bitch" Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linny 1 #10 January 25, 2005 QuoteIt's all a perspective thing. Nice Girl dumps guy: Nice guy thinks "What is wrong with me" Bad guy things "What is wrong with her" Bad Girl dumps guy: Nice guy thinks "What a bitch" Bad guy things "What a bitch" sweet. how right you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #11 January 25, 2005 QuoteI have found that most women go for the bad boy type at first, but want to change him into the nice guy. Which means you are right and wrong. When looking for Mr. Right, they want a guy they can stand to be around. The nice guy wins. When looking for Mr. Right Now, they don't care how they are treated for the next two hours, as long as he is good looking. When a gal just has a quickie in mind, Mr. Nice Guy gets his feelings hurt. Sometimes, the bad guy is super-hot and they want to change him into the permanent item, but that is the recipe for disaster. Everybody says they want honesty, but they are rarely happy with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #12 January 25, 2005 Quoteyea but it was pretty much true the other way too. Sorry, can't join your campaign. edit to add quote from my favorite band: Nice guys finish dead fuckin last. Being fucking nice will get you no where fast Yep.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #13 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI have found that most women go for the bad boy type at first, but want to change him into the nice guy. Which means you are right and wrong. When looking for Mr. Right, they want a guy they can stand to be around. The nice guy wins. When looking for Mr. Right Now, they don't care how they are treated for the next two hours, as long as he is good looking. When a gal just has a quickie in mind, Mr. Nice Guy gets his feelings hurt. Sometimes, the bad guy is super-hot and they want to change him into the permanent item, but that is the recipe for disaster. Everybody says they want honesty, but they are rarely happy with it. Nicely written my friend.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #14 January 25, 2005 Maybe I have too much self esteem. If a chick breaks up with me my first thought is "Whatever.......your loss." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #15 January 25, 2005 Women don't know WTF they want. And when they think they got something they want, they don't want it anymore. Women only want things/guys they can't have. That's why they complain that they haven't had sex in soooo long.If one has a vagina and not getting sex .... point made. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #16 January 25, 2005 QuoteIf one has a vagina and not getting sex .... point made. It's just as easy to get laid for guys as it is for ladies. Anyone can go out, lower their standards, and get some.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #17 January 25, 2005 Really ? Ha. silly girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #18 January 25, 2005 QuoteThat's why they complain that they haven't had sex in soooo long. If one has a vagina and not getting sex .... point made. Both men and women can have sex almost any day they wish. They just won't get the level of physical attractiveness that they desire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #19 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteIf one has a vagina and not getting sex .... point made. It's just as easy to get laid for guys as it is for ladies. Anyone can go out, lower their standards, and get some. When was the last time yu actually looked at the inner working of a bar scene? When a woman goes to a bar, she is the only one there that knows if she is getting laid that night.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #20 January 25, 2005 Someone define "nice guy" Someone define "bad boy"---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #21 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteIf one has a vagina and not getting sex .... point made. It's just as easy to get laid for guys as it is for ladies. Anyone can go out, lower their standards, and get some. When was the last time yu actually looked at the inner working of a bar scene? When a woman goes to a bar, she is the only one there that knows if she is getting laid that night. My guy friends all know they can get laid if they want to. It all depends on if you're willing to lower your standards or not.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #22 January 25, 2005 QuoteAnyone who doesn't have a self-esteem and places their worth into what others think will always wallow in self-pity. Sometimes, those guys are nice. Sometimes, they are jerks. I don't think it matters either way. In my experience, most of the 'assholes' don't really give a shit what people think.. .otherwise they might not be assholes. So, I don't really think much of their self-worth is based on other's opinions. Regardless, they don't always get the girl either, and they don't whine about it constantly. Either because they don't need the self-pity or because, as was stated earlier, their first thought is "What's wrong with her??" Have you ever heard someone say "That's it, I'm not being a jerk anymore... I never get the girl"? No. So you're saying that every asshole out there gets the girl he wants and keeps her forever? In either case, the whole "nice guys always finish last" is a huge pile of BS, don't get me started on that again, I'm just trying to fix the connotation of the phrase. Can we get back to that?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #23 January 25, 2005 QuoteIn my experience, most of the 'assholes' don't really give a shit what people think.. .otherwise they might not be assholes People who have been assholes to me have done so out of low self-esteem. People who feel good about themselves don't need to bring other people down. QuoteRegardless, they don't always get the girl either, and they don't whine about it constantly Really...you've never heard assholes complain??? I've heard them complain lots!!!!!! QuoteHave you ever heard someone say "That's it, I'm not being a jerk anymore... I never get the girl"? No, but I have seen people mature.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 January 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteAnyone who doesn't have a self-esteem and places their worth into what others think will always wallow in self-pity. Sometimes, those guys are nice. Sometimes, they are jerks. I don't think it matters either way. In my experience, most of the 'assholes' don't really give a shit what people think.. .otherwise they might not be assholes. So, I don't really think much of their self-worth is based on other's opinions. Regardless, they don't always get the girl either, and they don't whine about it constantly. Either because they don't need the self-pity or because, as was stated earlier, their first thought is "What's wrong with her??" Have you ever heard someone say "That's it, I'm not being a jerk anymore... I never get the girl"? No. So you're saying that every asshole out there gets the girl he wants and keeps her forever? In either case, the whole "nice guys always finish last" is a huge pile of BS, don't get me started on that again, I'm just trying to fix the connotation of the phrase. Can we get back to that? Maybe if you rephrased it to - . . . finish last the second time.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #25 January 25, 2005 QuoteSomeone define "nice guy" Someone define "bad boy" If we're going by the typical definitions you end up hearing when this conversation comes around, a 'nice guy' is the one that cares, he listens, he consoles, he's the friend. The 'bad boy' doesn't do everything a good boyfriend is supposed to do, and doesn't seem to care.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
