flyingferret 0 #1 February 3, 2005 For the geeks in the room: I am thinking about implementing network attached storage backup routines. Right now I have an AIT tape routine in a Compaq ML380 server. The tape drivers is starting to be flaky, plus the server is NT4 6a, and the Veritas is an OLD version (6.4I think) I inherited the whole setup and don't really like it. I am thinking about going with an Iomega NAS 200m or 300m, which gives me: rack mount, RAID 1 (and 5 on the 300m), etc, etc. To me this seems like a better solution, and at least as fault tolerant as tape, excepting an inceneration event anyway. Anyone have any experience with them, particularly the backup software used. A handy 'plugin' for quick client backups as well as server backups would be nice.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #2 February 3, 2005 I know one company that uses a NAS for backup. I think it is a good idea. They backup all of their servers to the NAS and then back up the NAS to Powervault 110T. That way they only have one set of tapes to worry about and they can store the tapes off site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #3 February 3, 2005 NAS works well. the ML 380 is typically a good machine, dump NT, upgrade the OS and that thing should still provide great utility. Even if just as a test bed or other play thing for the IT department. Geeks need to have fun too! It gets very tiring having to be 100% right all the time!"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #4 February 3, 2005 Agreed, but for multiple reasons, cannot quite dump NT yet. It is in the plan over the next year, that box will probalby be replaced with a new PDC, then upgraded to become a BDC. In the mean time, my current AIT is being flaky, making me nervous, and my CEO is interested in backing up his laptop. And of course we want to spend no money. I am trying to decide how much I value off site tapes, and where exactly off site would be. Other than that I really like the idea of RAID NAS-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #5 February 3, 2005 The NAS is a good idea based upon your $ limitations and legacy configuration. However, with NT you are going to become a serious baby sitter until you upgrade. I realize there are reasons not to upgrade, but sometimes (depending on how much spare time you and your IT department have) the cure can be worse than the disease. Give serious thought to when you want to implement this solution (before or after an upgrade from NT.) No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #6 February 3, 2005 It all depends on what you are backing up. The company I work for requires all backup tapes to be stored off site. so I don't have a choice. But considering that I am backing up our ERP database and all Lotus Notes DBs it is very important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #7 February 3, 2005 Holy shit it's Jamie! I've never really like NAS as a sole backup solution. You back stuff up for two main reasons - disaster recovery and human recovery. If you have a disaster, your NAS box is probably gone now too. If you have a human, chance are they deleted a file 2 weeks ago and want it back. Tapes are still cheaper than disks.it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazzjumper 0 #8 February 3, 2005 QuoteHoly shit it's Jamie! Yep, I'm back from the caca and taking my R&R right now. QuoteI've never really like NAS as a sole backup solution. You back stuff up for two main reasons - disaster recovery and human recovery. If you have a disaster, your NAS box is probably gone now too. If you have a human, chance are they deleted a file 2 weeks ago and want it back. Tapes are still cheaper than disks. Depends on money and solution. NetApps has some pretty cool stuff, but the price is high. Tapes are cool, but time to recovery is a pain. You can have it fast, cheap, or accurate.....pick any two. No matter how good she looks, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #9 February 3, 2005 Yeah, it really all depends, I work for a small company with an as needed IT budget. So, that means once it is needed, the damage is done. I agree with you, and if I had my way I would use a VXA-2 autoloader from Exabyte, and then a NAS solution for client laptop backups. BUT...I dont have $4K to blow, some I am weighing some odds.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 February 3, 2005 QuoteIt is in the plan over the next year, that box will probalby be replaced with a new PDC, then upgraded to become a BDC. If you are upgrading you may want to ready up on PDC Emulators if you have legacy apps. otherwise... the whole PDC/BDC goes away.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #11 February 3, 2005 QuoteIf you are upgrading you may want to ready up on PDC Emulators if you have legacy apps. otherwise... the whole PDC/BDC goes away.. Listen to Jeanne on this one. I saw this bite a young sys admin badly, they didn't didn't prepare and when they took down that old NT PDC the defication hit the rotating oscillator"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
