flyingferret 0 #1 February 3, 2005 Kitesurfing happens to have my attention today. thinking about going to the velocity games in corpus this year. Anyway, I found a ton of videos, these guys are more into video that we are. Anyone have recommendations on what DVD to order? http://www.actionsportsvideos.com/kitesurf.html-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeepThought 0 #2 February 3, 2005 There is always a bit of kite flying available http://www.boreme.com/bm/JAN05/a/kite-flying/fr.htm -------------------------------------------------- You only have one life, make the most of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #3 February 3, 2005 Was that real? That guy got jacked up!_________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #4 February 3, 2005 Damn? Any idea what the origin of that is? I started looking because my girlfriend send me a pic that was unreal, it really does look photoshopped on enlargement, of a jump like 50feet up out at sea. I was thinking it was not possible, but ok, if it is, how the crap do they land it? Obviously the guy in that video did not.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #5 February 3, 2005 QuoteDamn? Any idea what the origin of that is? I started looking because my girlfriend send me a pic that was unreal, it really does look photoshopped on enlargement, of a jump like 50feet up out at sea. I was thinking it was not possible, but ok, if it is, how the crap do they land it? They "normally" land it the same way we land parachutes.. use the lift that the sail / kite provides. I used to windsurf for years, and jumps seems very painful from an outside point of view, but you actually use the sail to gain some lift, which reduces the impact when you land again.. Obviously this guy got a bit out of control with his kite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #6 February 3, 2005 So how much altitude and yo ureally get and land? Can you hit 50 feet and bring it back down? Seems way less control lines than our canopies.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #7 February 3, 2005 QuoteSo how much altitude and yo ureally get and land? Can you hit 50 feet and bring it back down? Seems way less control lines than our canopies. I don't know about kite surfing, only windsurfing, I've only viewed it from shore, I have never tried it. I know I'd let go of my gear at 20 feet, no way I'm gonna try to land it, but I've landed a fair amount of 10ft jumps easily.. I think with the right amount of input you can land a 50ft jump (at least in kite surfing) I don't know if a lot of people let themselves be lifted that high though.. again.. I've never done kite surfing, just windsurfing.. so I might be wrong here... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #8 February 3, 2005 13 daze is one of the newest and has some seriously cool stuff on, including the scariest bit of footage you will see of someone getting boosted above a beach in some sort of thermal/dust devil type thing, just keeps going up... I have seen 13 daze, space monkeys, unhooked, strung out, zero 3, small craft warning and flow, and of those i like 13 daze for cutting edge kiteloop handle pass type stuff, and unhooked for really fast wake stykle power moves, bit more retro but its one of my favs. all of those are pretty good though.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #9 February 3, 2005 I have hit about 30 foot - the trick is to keep the kite above you to slow the descent, but still start diving it so that you have some power when you land so that you go straight back on the plane. 50 foot is easily possible if you have the skill, talent and big brass clanking ones Kitesurfing is a serious rush but despite teaching for 2 years i don't do much any more - can ya guess why? Oh and there are 2 control lines which is essentially the same as a canopy, but these types of kite don't need as many suspension lines because the inflatable skeleton they have maintains the structure of the kite itself. you can change the angle of attack (and hence the power) by moving the control bar in and out. People do still kitesurf on traction kites, very comparable to a parachute. Iwan - you should try kitesurfing - much easier to get half decent at than windsurfing. (but can hurt just as much!)Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #10 February 3, 2005 So how can I learn? How hard is it? I gave up snowboarding after 4 days of ground pounding on a front edge, and went back to skis, where I could go where I want. I am guessing water is not as bad, but I have heard learn to wake can be a beotch.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #11 February 3, 2005 Nah - its not hard, but GET LESSONS!! (i charge a reasonable rate ) Too many people at the moment can go out and buy a kite, and there is none of the regulation that there is in skydiving - you can buy the equivalent of a VX with no questions asked, and it does have the potential to damage you badly. I used to teach a 3 day course, and wind permitting by the third day i had 90% of my students up and riding in both directions. (Incidentally windsurfers are the hardest to teach because a lot of things you do in windsurfing are bad habits when kitesurfing and need to be unlearnt!) Top tip - buy a reasonable traction kite, learn about the wind window, where the edge of the window is and where the powerband is. 90% of kitesurfing is flying the kite. If you can do that right the board will pretty much take care of itself.... Oh - and if you can wakeboard AND fly a kite then better still!Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #12 February 3, 2005 flyingferret, I've been kitesurfing for 5 years this coming March. Best advice I can give you is find a reputable dealer in your area and go talk to them. Your gear has to be matched up to your wieght and the conditions where you will kite at. I picked up rather quickly since I've been surfing since I was 14 so the balance was there. It's not that hard physically since you have a harness where your are "strapped/hooked" to the kite. Me personally I like to ride un-hooked some of the time, I like feeling the power of the wind. Like stumpy said the control lines are way less than a normal skydiving canopy. In kiteboarding you have basically four lines: two to the leading edge and two to traling edge. All these lines are hooked up to your control bar. The kite is inflatable so it will take some time to set up on the beach. It takes me about 20-30 min to inflate, set up and then head out. I use to kite a lot more (skydivings more fun), but now when Elsinore or Perris are winded out like last weekend I just go kite.www.sskiteboarding.com Slingshot kites, I own three and love them them. www.kiteboardingmag.com Cool videos. www.realkiteboarding.com Great place to learn to kite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #13 February 4, 2005 Quote It takes me about 20-30 min to inflate, set up and then head out. Jeez - how big is your kite!? My record - 10 mins from car fully dressed to riding my 12m x3 in a winter suit I was in a serious hurry however!!Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #14 February 4, 2005 I'm a slow poke, SS 04 fuel 15. Get there shoot the shit with my friends, untagle the lines and then head out. I see you're in the UK how is it over there? Have you guys been banned from any beaches? Here in cali we cant kite a few during the summer months. Like you stated too many newbies get HP kites and end up hurting themselves or bystanders. I once saw a guy get lofted and sheer the top off a light post. Either way its an awesome sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #15 February 4, 2005 Slingshot - good kites. Fuel is Pokey too. my x3's (8,12 and 16) are great (fast and very lifty) if you have the right wind but if it drops 5 knots you are stuffed. And definitely not a beginner kite. UK is cold, but we have some really good spots. The beach i taught on was about 4k long, with a fairly regular 2-4 foot swell to play in. We are having some access problems in various areas but they are being fought down to th wire. Councils are scared of insurance claims because you do get the idiots who don't know what they are doing or think they know best. I used to carry a hook knife and if it looked like someone was in danger of getting us banned then goodbye lineset (and if you are really good you can do it out in the water as well!) at 120 quid a go they think twice about doing that more than once.... Only needed that twice though, usually the rest of the local crowd sorted them out before that was needed. Wouldn't mind a bit of kiting in Cali though, if i make it to Perris in April and the wind is up.....??Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
