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GUYS: if your girl asked you to pump iron, would you?

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I think that would definately make any guy reconsider that relationship. However, if the girl offered to go as well it wouldn't have so much of a negative effect. Personally I tend to work out for like a month then take a month off, so I would probably try to look at it more as motivation but that is a unique case.


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I got caught up going between this thread and the "fake or real" thread.

It got confusing!:D



No shit! I feel like I've been as a tennis match for the last hour... back and forth, back and forth...



"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them."

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Interesting proposition.

If I was asked to work out only to "look more attractive," I would feel really insulted and probably ashamed, and also think the person asking was pretty shallow.

I used to be heavy. Six years ago I was 6' 235lbs 42"w. I'm now 159lbs 30"w (31" if I eat a cheesesteak :). I did the transformation on my own willpower because I was really tired of being a blob, and it definately is a big pick-me-up to go to the gym and know I'm making progress (and seeing it).

I observed a drastic change in peoples' attitudes towards me when I lost the weight and then started pumping iron. I have to say for the most part... people really are biased and conceited, at least subconciously. And I am that way too (sometimes I catch myself doing it).

One coworker if mine who dates around quite a bit did muse with me about people who look perfect. "Yeah, the hotties are nice to be around, but so lousy in bed" she told me when we were eating lunch one time.

Same goes for my cousin who gave up modelling to work in telecom and is married to a heavy guy. Love it when she picks up her glass of wine and says "honey... tall and thin isn't in, short and fat is where it's at!" :)
If you're dating the guy you're going to tell to go to the gym, he may really resent you after you say that and you'll probably get passed up for another model that doesn't make criticisms like that. If I was told that, I'd make some really crass remark (probably about your poor taste in shoes) and REALLY make ya think twice you said that.

Ha!

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There is a difference in.. "Baby you need to get off your ass..." and... "Baby.. what's wrong? why have you stopped taking care of yourself.. I want you to be healthy."



First off, what you said...I said that early on...how you ask would make a huge difference.

Second, go check the Real Women's bodies thread. A bunch of guys have been saying exactly opposite of what you mention above.

Third, there is a huge difference between posting something as eye candy and asking a person who relies on you for support, love, appreciation, and validation, to change something superficial. It was not stated if he was an obese lardass. Most of us mentioned early on, if it was health it would be different. The statement was made that "more muscles would simpley make him 'ahem' more appealing."

Fourth, when has it actually been said that a picture posted was the perfect body? Or was there just a lot of drooling involved.

I still say, subjective situation makes all the difference...Fat is unattractive as much for what is says about that person's attitude as the actual body shape. Girls make just as many comments about the Brad Pitts of the world, as we do. The fact remains that if you take that general pointless thought inside your relationship, and asked either partner to change something physical because it would make the more attractive, it could have a serious effect on self esteem and in turn the relationship. I think the men in this thread are saying it would be BAD going to either partner.

Either way, whether we say it is bad or not, it would lead to a decline in the relationship, it was not packaged very thoughtfully.
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Yeah, no shit.

So....someone posted something they were thinking about, we all thought about it and responded and then got chastised for responding. BAH.

I still say, as I said in the first post: "Lets go do something together" is different; "I am worried about your health" is different; That is NOT what was asked.
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Nah, women only want me for my fabulous wealth. My physique never enters the picture. Sometimes when I fart, I need a nap afterwards.

On the shallowness scale, they'd have to rise up to my level to consider my attractiveness. ;)

Guys do have the advantage here. We can stand in front of you and lie about our bank account, women can't lie about their looks.

(Girl whining to friend) "...and he lied to me about his money. I just can't date a liar."

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I'm just saying I am a big observer and have read many posts and comments by many different people regarding women, bodies, boobies, etc. I also know many people contradict themselves. That's all I'm saying.


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Third, there is a huge difference between posting something as eye candy and asking a person who relies on you for support, love, appreciation, and validation, to change something superficial.



True.. completely agree but it does send a double message out there whether you like it or not.

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Oh... where do I get in line?


On the double message...meh..kind of disagree. Some things are important, some are sensitive, some are neither. You can have opposite opinions that are not mutually exclusive to the other catergories.

Uh, so where do I get in line again?
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It's funny how things change. 150 years ago it was heavier people who were getting all the play, because most people assumed (if they were dressed well) that if you were overweight somewhat but had nice imported clothes you probably had oodles of money... and that was much more popular than being fit.

You know... some guys still think like that. How many times have you been driving and seen an older balding guy with designer shades driving a really expensive convertible with no passenger?

I bet too many times to count.

:P

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You mean like "birthin' hips" Yeah, human nature wants to survive, which is why we think of certain things as maternal. I think at some level our instincts suggest that some anorexic twigs have a really bad chance of surviving ;)

Back then, someone was probably writing on pieces of paper "what would you do if your impoverished girlfriend asked you to eat a lot and get fat, so you would appeal to her more? Wouldst thou do it?"
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