Slappie 9 #26 February 10, 2005 Quotehmm, that's interesting. I've heard of these guys, who complain they don't get enough sex, right? So if their S.O. would happen to like muscular arms or something,,,direct result =more sex, still no? I don't complain at all about not getting enough sex. My gf takes very good care of me. Hell I'm sure is you asked her, she'd say she wants more! I answered your question, don't try to pin shit on me because you don't like my answer. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #27 February 10, 2005 I guess part of my thinking stems from the way I was brought up...don't deny your husband, vice-versa Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #28 February 10, 2005 With all due respect to her.....fuck no!!! If she fell in love with me, she should love me just the way I am, and if I'm a skinny guy then she fell in love with a skinny guy. I'll be damned if somebody can only want to be with me if I look a certain way. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #29 February 10, 2005 Quotedon't deny your husband Got a sister you can spare? I can't think of something better for one's self-esteem than being asked by his/her SO to change physical appearance. Not a very healthy situation if you ask me. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #30 February 10, 2005 So, if your SO, said will you get fake boobs, casue then we can have more sex, you would do it? If your SO said, will you lose some of your ass so we can have more sex, would you do it? The whole idea is B$, because the assumption is that guys, i fyou give them the hint that they can do better by doing xyz, will do it. Where as women will say we should appreciate their individuality regardless. But your question goes beyond even that. You have not said, if you knew she like this and it would get you laid, would you do it? You have asked if she explicitly said will you change something for me, would you? Funny enough, if you had asked about anything other than physical, I bet we would all be saying yeah sure. "Will you not do this when we argue; Will you not bring this up, it makes me feel bad; etc, etc" The insulting part is that they thing at the front of her mind would be that I needed physical enhancement to be appealing.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #31 February 10, 2005 QuoteI guess part of my thinking stems from the way I was brought up...don't deny your husband, vice-versa Well the question is showing a very shallow and superficial side to your personality. It's rather unapealing to be so young and be so "looks oriented" get over the looks. Those fade babe.. Trust me you'll start sagging in a short 10 years and wonder to yourself.. What happend. Think about it this way... What if I promised to give you more cock, BUT you had to lose 15 lbs and tone up your ass? I can't stand a flabby ass.. Or you needed to tone up your stomache, I think it needs some work. Would you run to the gym and start working out to tone up for me (any man) I think you would slap me across the face, start crying in anger and probably pack your bags or make me move out.. Depends on the situation. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #32 February 10, 2005 Frenchy, uh...no! ( she's 18) hey, I am not a shallow person by any means; in fact, I am extremely turned off by shallow people. I'm no way perfect, or even close to looking anything like a supermodel; but I try and take good care of myself, and would want a guy who does the same thing. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #33 February 10, 2005 I would guess that OUR perspective is much the same as a woman's. If your S.O. asked you to do something like work out, bulk up, or slim down for them because they would find them more appealing, I assume the reaction would be similar. I am attracted to my wife for who she is. I find her beautiful because of THAT and her appearance. I never have even thought that I would change one single thing. Let alone ask her to. I have sex with her because of all of it. Nothing she could do would make me want to have sex more. LOVE is where THAT comes from, not physical attributes. Just my opinion. And I apologize if you thought I was calling you shallow. I wasn't. I was referring to the thought process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #34 February 10, 2005 Yo, bitch get off your fat ass, lose some weight and I'll buy you breast implants! Does that make you want to go out in "tone"? If you can't like someone for who they are and what they look like then you are a shallow person. Using anything as a "weapon" in a relationship just shows you are pety and don't value the relationship.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #35 February 10, 2005 QuoteI'm not saying it as using it; I guess I just find it hard when someone would complain about not enough sex, but if their partner was more turned on...? I've never asked any of my guys to work out for me, however, when they DID do it to "impress" me or whatever, I thought it was a nice gesture. I've actually never been w/ someone really fit, so I'm not being shallow; just thought I'd ask what your guys' perspective comes from. ok I totally agree with you in the sense that if I was to complain abou tnot getting enough sex I would dissect the reasons and try to change them. If it were my shcedule I would change shifts. if it were my attitude I would change that (if I felt it was MY attitude that needed lightening up) the thing is sex doesnt just happen all on its own. you gotta set the mood and do the things you know turn her(or him) on in order for them to respond. if I just came home and expected sex I doubt i would get it. the next thing I would say is "dinner better be on the table" WTF kind of attitude would that be? Im also not saying the spontaneous sex can't happen. it happens all of the time but not b/c I am a fat slob who doesnt care abou ther feelingsMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #36 February 10, 2005 QuoteFrenchy, uh...no! ( she's 18) hey, I am not a shallow person by any means; in fact, I am extremely turned off by shallow people. I'm no way perfect, or even close to looking anything like a supermodel; but I try and take good care of myself, and would want a guy who does the same thing. So then find a guy who is already doing that.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #37 February 10, 2005 QuoteI have sex with her because of all of it. Nothing she could do would make me want to have sex more. LOVE is where THAT comes from, not physical attributes. EXACTLY!-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #38 February 10, 2005 well I think she is directing the question as if you were a little over weight or jsut plain flabby as one of those dogs. lol. I dont think you have that problem. but if mypersonal standards werehn't what they are then she may ask me at some point to get off the couch and at least jog to the beer! LOLMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #39 February 10, 2005 I guess you guys are all assuming I WOULD be the girl, asking her guy to do all this for her. Actually, I don't care what people look like, how fit or unfit they may be. I mean, I am attracted to guys who are somewhat in shape, but I would not turn him away if he didn't get more in shape. Yes, if a guy told me to get all this "work" done, I wouldn't be with him too long. I find it funny how you can call someone shallow and superficial from one thread; when you haven't even met me in person Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #40 February 10, 2005 Hmmm...so the chick would want a bigger/stronger guy. I bench over 300lbs so I guess I'd have to either dump the chick or start using steroids...so the chick would be dumped.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #41 February 10, 2005 Quotewell? Let's say after getting married, or being in a relationship for awhile, she asked you to start working out/lifting weights because she wanted to see you with a little more muscle...would do it for her? Only if she agreed to lay off the donuts and trim her ass too....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #42 February 10, 2005 Ok wind hun, I think you are taking this personal. I know I did at first. Just when I answered "No" and you then questioned it. You kinda made it seem. You were the woman asking her man to shape up. The question and situation itself is shallow and very superficial. The person asking it may not have seen it that way, so in a sense that person is reflected in the post. Damn did that make any sense at all? "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #43 February 10, 2005 You asked a question without qaulifying and added some little angel emoticons. Some people assumed it was yours...kinda made sense. I don't think you are shallow, but the question is, and would get flamed if a guy asked it. So, now that you have heard the overwhelming response; what made you post it? Why was it on your mind? Ok, it was not your question, but something made you think of it. We did not bring it up.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccowden 0 #44 February 10, 2005 QuoteThe question and situation itself is shallow and very superficial. The person asking it may not have seen it that way, so in a sense that person is reflected in the post. I agree totally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misskriss 0 #45 February 10, 2005 I have to say that it is interesting that guys post on here pictures all the time of women with perfect bodies, etc. There was the long running boobie thread and I have heard many men on here talk about "fat" women and how that is unattractive, etc. I see that Windcatcher was just asking a theoretical question and the men getting really defensive. It seems to be okay to talk about women's bodies all day long and what men like about them and don't like about them but when it comes to the men they seem to freak out a little. I met my boyfriend while he was in great shape and he still is in great shape. If something happened and he started taking poor care of himself it would worry me because it would mean something was wrong. And if I gained 20 lbs out of nowhere I would hope he would say something to me as well. There is a difference in.. "Baby you need to get off your ass..." and... "Baby.. what's wrong? why have you stopped taking care of yourself.. I want you to be healthy." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #46 February 10, 2005 QuoteI guess you guys are all assuming I WOULD be the girl, asking her guy to do all this for her. Actually, I don't care what people look like, how fit or unfit they may be. I mean, I am attracted to guys who are somewhat in shape, but I would not turn him away if he didn't get more in shape. Yes, if a guy told me to get all this "work" done, I wouldn't be with him too long. I find it funny how you can call someone shallow and superficial from one thread; when you haven't even met me in person I never calledd you shallow or superficial. i assumed you were asking for personal reasons but I didnt assume you were shallow. in fact I actually agreed with youMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #47 February 10, 2005 well, I'm sorry, I just like to have discussions about interesting aspects of things. The reason I posted it, was in response to other threads about body type,etc. With the few guys I've dated, I've never asked anything of them. But now that exercise is becoming a more important part of my life, I suppose it would be nice to have someone to share that same goal of being healthy with; so that probably means I would be attracted to someone who already was in shape. I am sorry if the question made me appear shallow. hopefully if I ever meet you guys you'll plainly see that I'm not shallow Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #48 February 10, 2005 QuoteI see that Windcatcher was just asking a theoretical question and the men getting really defensive. thank you kriss, what a wonderful post!!! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #49 February 10, 2005 thats what is boils down to. health. I expect my girlfriend to kick me when i'm lying on the couch. I want her to . its a mutual motivation thing. of course we enjoy lyikng on the couch but you know what I mean. when I get inot a slump I expect her to give me a few days to get through it then kick me and say "let's go stop being so lazy we got a life to live." and even though I may have been the one to post the thread doesn't meanI live in a fantasy world where I think every female should be hot and hard bodied just tso a man can come rescue hwer from the cruel world LOL I know men and women like to look at sex people for the superficiality of it but thats not where my heart lies(lays) haha for the record I've dated some downright ugly girls..and not just for their bodies eitherMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slurp56 0 #50 February 10, 2005 Abosultely Not. Women marry men hoping to change them, men marry women hoping they'll never change. ________________________________________ I have proof-read this post 500 times, but I guarantee you'll still manage to find a flaw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
