Vallerina 2 #1 February 7, 2005 Okay, I personally have no qualms with Valentine's Day since I see nothing wrong with having a day that emphasizes love. I mean, we have days to emphasize religion, dressing up funny, our country, etc. So, why not have a day that focuses in on love? That being said, those of us who are single/don't celebrate it/etc should NEVER sit at home on that day watching stupid, sappy movies. Being single is something that should be celebrated just as much as being in a relationship! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #2 February 7, 2005 yea, I'm single.. lets screw Cupid this year... might be single but I don't sit at home crying about it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 February 7, 2005 QuoteSo, who is joining us in some festivities to "Screw Cupid"? Depends. Are you coming to California, and is your middle name "Cupid"? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bisqit999 0 #4 February 7, 2005 i used to call Valentines day my annual reminder of how much of a loser I am. I always went out on that day though. I actually have a Valentine this year so I'm not feeling the loser thing for once. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #5 February 7, 2005 QuoteDepends. Are you coming to California, and is your middle name "Cupid"? Damn, JP! I failed to meet those requirements!!! Your standards are too high!!! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 February 7, 2005 For you I might make some exceptions, but a boy's got to have his standards!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 February 7, 2005 It used to be a bad luck day for me. Had to put my dog down one Valentine's day, got in a car wreck with my 65 Imperial on another, caught my girlfriend with a firend of ming on yet another...... I decided to just give up on the whole "bad day" vibe. Now I just have good days. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #8 February 7, 2005 Quotei used to call Valentines day my annual reminder of how much of a loser I am. I always went out on that day though. I actually have a Valentine this year so I'm not feeling the loser thing for once. Hey...I'm single. Does that mean I'm a loser? How can Valentine's Day be a bad day for anyone? Chocolate is everywhere!!!! I'm all about holidays that celebrate chocolate! Ooh! I'll buy a bottle or two of the Godiva liquer for anyone that joins us for festivities in Chicago! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysprite 0 #9 February 7, 2005 I wanna join in! Too bad I'm not in Chicago. Screw Cupid extra for me mkay?? ~skysprite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #10 February 7, 2005 QuoteI wanna join in! Too bad I'm not in Chicago. Screw Cupid extra for me mkay?? Done! Ladyskydiver...eeneR....Kallend (oh, wait..he has a hot girlfriend)...who wants to help me drink these on Valentine's Day: http://www.thevirtualbar.com/cgi-bin/dspdrink?RecNo=6334 or http://www.thevirtualbar.com/cgi-bin/dspdrink?RecNo=12126 They both sound good!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #11 February 7, 2005 Ya know I boycot Valantines day. I don't celebrate it and my GF knows. She was a bit upset the first couple of years but she's cool with it now. It's just a Halmark holiday... There is nothing about the day that's special. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #12 February 7, 2005 QuoteIt's just a Halmark holiday... There is nothing about the day that's special. So is Halloween, but I celebrate it! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #13 February 7, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt's just a Halmark holiday... There is nothing about the day that's special. So is Halloween, but I celebrate it! Halloween is actually a holiday based on "All Hallows Eve" it's a real holiday. Vday isn't based on anything except card, candy & flower companies making money! "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #14 February 7, 2005 QuoteIt's just a Halmark holiday... There is nothing about the day that's special. ...I agree, but tell that to my gf, who will never touch me again if I skip Valtentine's Day... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #15 February 7, 2005 Should have trained her early in the relationship. Mine was pretty upset the first year. She really thought I was kidding when I told her I don't celebrate Valentines Day. Now she's cool, she still buys me a card or something sappy to try and make me feel guilty. Doesn't work though. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #16 February 7, 2005 QuoteHalloween is actually a holiday based on "All Hallows Eve" it's a real holiday. Vday isn't based on anything except card, candy & flower companies making money! Uhhh....no. Halloween isn't based on anything except for candy and costume makers making money. It would be rare to find anyone dressing up or eating candy for Halloween actually celebrating the real reason for Halloween. So, your comparison is true only if people celebrate the real reason. Valentine's Day wasn't created by card/candy companies. They just happen to profit from it in current times. I don't get why anyone has a problem with taking one day a year to show love to everyone they know. Yes, you should do it everyday. No, it just doesn't happen everyday.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #17 February 7, 2005 QuoteUhhh....no. Halloween isn't based on anything except for candy and costume makers making money. Halloween is an annual celebration, but just what is it actually a celebration of? And how did this peculiar custom originate? Is it, as some claim, a kind of demon worship? Or is it just a harmless vestige of some ancient pagan ritual? The word itself, "Halloween," actually has its origins in the Catholic Church. It comes from a contracted corruption of All Hallows Eve. November 1, "All Hollows Day" (or "All Saints Day"), is a Catholic day of observance in honor of saints. But, in the 5th century BC, in Celtic Ireland, summer officially ended on October 31. The holiday was called Samhain (sow-en), the Celtic New year. One story says that, on that day, the disembodied spirits of all those who had died throughout the preceding year would come back in search of living bodies to possess for the next year. It was believed to be their only hope for the afterlife. The Celts believed all laws of space and time were suspended during this time, allowing the spirit world to intermingle with the living. Naturally, the still-living did not want to be possessed. So on the night of October 31, villagers would extinguish the fires in their homes, to make them cold and undesirable. They would then dress up in all manner of ghoulish costumes and noisily paraded around the neighborhood, being as destructive as possible in order to frighten away spirits looking for bodies to possess. Probably a better explanation of why the Celts extinguished their fires was not to discourage spirit possession, but so that all the Celtic tribes could relight their fires from a common source, the Druidic fire that was kept burning in the Middle of Ireland, at Usinach. Some accounts tell of how the Celts would burn someone at the stake who was thought to have already been possessed, as sort of a lesson to the spirits. Other accounts of Celtic history debunk these stories as myth. The Romans adopted the Celtic practices as their own. But in the first century AD, Samhain was assimilated into celebrations of some of the other Roman traditions that took place in October, such as their day to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. The symbol of Pomona is the apple, which might explain the origin of our modern tradition of bobbing for apples on Halloween. The thrust of the practices also changed over time to become more ritualized. As belief in spirit possession waned, the practice of dressing up like hobgoblins, ghosts, and witches took on a more ceremonial role. The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by Irish immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that time, the favorite pranks in New England included tipping over outhouses and unhinging fence gates. The custom of trick-or-treating is thought to have originated not with the Irish Celts, but with a ninth-century European custom called souling. On November 2, All Souls Day, early Christians would walk from village to village begging for "soul cakes," made out of square pieces of bread with currants. The more soul cakes the beggars would receive, the more prayers they would promise to say on behalf of the dead relatives of the donors. At the time, it was believed that the dead remained in limbo for a time after death, and that prayer, even by strangers, could expedite a soul's passage to heaven. The Jack-o-lantern custom probably comes from Irish folklore. As the tale is told, a man named Jack, who was notorious as a drunkard and trickster, tricked Satan into climbing a tree. Jack then carved an image of a cross in the tree's trunk, trapping the devil up the tree. Jack made a deal with the devil that, if he would never tempt him again, he would promise to let him down the tree. According to the folk tale, after Jack died, he was denied entrance to Heaven because of his evil ways, but he was also denied access to Hell because he had tricked the devil. Instead, the devil gave him a single ember to light his way through the frigid darkness. The ember was placed inside a hollowed-out turnip to keep it glowing longer. The Irish used turnips as their "Jack's lanterns" originally. But when the immigrants came to America, they found that pumpkins were far more plentiful than turnips. So the Jack-O-Lantern in America was a hollowed-out pumpkin, lit with an ember. So, although some cults may have adopted Halloween as their favorite "holiday," the day itself did not grow out of evil practices. It grew out of the rituals of Celts celebrating a new year, and out of Medieval prayer rituals of Europeans. And today, even many churches have Halloween parties or pumpkin carving events for the kids. After all, the day itself is only as evil as one cares to make it. http://wilstar.com/holidays/hallown.htm "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #18 February 7, 2005 It was an analogy. I know the history of Halloween. Valentine's Day also has a history, hence your "it's based on cards" is incorrect. Errr...basically you saying that Halloween has history doesn't hold anything because Valentine's Day also has history. People used to celebrate Valentine's Day without anyone getting rich...just like Halloween. It doesn't work that way for either holiday anymore.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #19 February 7, 2005 QuoteIt was an analogy. I know the history of Halloween. Valentine's Day also has a history, hence your "it's based on cards" is incorrect. I love pulling your chain Val "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #20 February 7, 2005 Well, I've been saying it for years! We don't have to give card/flower companies money to celebrate it. Make your own cards! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #21 February 7, 2005 I normally get some body chocolate and let the gf lick it off of me I'm real generous like that. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #22 February 7, 2005 The History of Valentine's Day Every February, across the country, candy, flowers, and gifts are exchanged between loved ones, all in the name of St. Valentine. But who is this mysterious saint and why do we celebrate this holiday? The history of Valentine's Day -- and its patron saint -- is shrouded in mystery. But we do know that February has long been a month of romance. St. Valentine's Day, as we know it today, contains vestiges of both Christian and ancient Roman tradition. So, who was Saint Valentine and how did he become associated with this ancient rite? Today, the Catholic Church recognizes at least three different saints named Valentine or Valentinus, all of whom were martyred. One legend contends that Valentine was a priest who served during the third century in Rome. When Emperor Claudius II decided that single men made better soldiers than those with wives and families, he outlawed marriage for young men -- his crop of potential soldiers. Valentine, realizing the injustice of the decree, defied Claudius and continued to perform marriages for young lovers in secret. When Valentine's actions were discovered, Claudius ordered that he be put to death. Other stories suggest that Valentine may have been killed for attempting to help Christians escape harsh Roman prisons where they were often beaten and tortured. According to one legend, Valentine actually sent the first 'valentine' greeting himself. While in prison, it is believed that Valentine fell in love with a young girl -- who may have been his jailor's daughter -- who visited him during his confinement. Before his death, it is alleged that he wrote her a letter, which he signed 'From your Valentine,' an expression that is still in use today. Although the truth behind the Valentine legends is murky, the stories certainly emphasize his appeal as a sympathetic, heroic, and, most importantly, romantic figure. It's no surprise that by the Middle Ages, Valentine was one of the most popular saints in England and France. http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/valentine/?page=history "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #23 February 7, 2005 That is generous! I'm jealous! I've never had the opportunity to try that stuff!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #24 February 7, 2005 hmm....the Peppermint Patty one looks awfully tasty. Nummy!!!! But, Valentine's Day falls on a Monday, and I'm spoiling myself and getting my hair done that evening. However, the previous Saturday is a possibility. Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #25 February 7, 2005 Well, Hell! I'm good with this Saturday if that means you'll join us, Cora! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
