Zenister 0 #76 February 3, 2004 QuoteI think the poll should just be [] I believe what [author] believes. [] I am going to hell. yes we have a winner.....you win the 'a trolling we will go' hymn book with red verses for the rounds still wondering if the you searched the forum for the words 'religion'?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #77 February 3, 2004 Excellent point! I attend a Church but, I BELIEVE in a different way than just what is presented or given in sone else's opinion._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #78 February 3, 2004 I think the best question is, "Who cares what others believe in?" Why would you care or WANT to know if someone believes in God, Buddah, Satan, Pagans, etc...? Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but what religeon a stranger believes in is completely fucking meaningless. Same goes for political views. No one cares what you or me believe in. These threads are created for the sole purpose of starting a riot. Let's be smart and act somewhat mature. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvToFly 0 #79 February 3, 2004 QuoteQuotebut I got introduced to this place by LuvToFly. He is a good friend of mine. Oh boy...that explains a lot. You may consider yourself PM'd for the blatent derogatory - "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #80 February 3, 2004 QuoteYou may consider yourself PM'd for the blatent derogatory - I think I smell a red hot fork in your future.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #81 February 3, 2004 QuoteHey Kris, we'll be seeing you in no time at all. Make sure to bring warm clothes. Yup, just a few more days. eeneR and I are looking forward to seeing you.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #82 February 3, 2004 if you want to have others show a measure of maturity...maybe you can lead by using mature decent language. It would be a start BillCole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #83 February 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou may consider yourself PM'd for the blatent derogatory - I think I smell a red hot fork in your future. Bwaahaahhahahahahahahah Oh, man, my sides hurt now. I know easily amused. But ya nailed this one. Is that troll food I smell - yum!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #84 February 3, 2004 I am a man of science if I cannot touch it or see it and it cannot be proven on paper I do not believe in it. I think religion is good it gives people good rules to live by and a place to look for hope, but it is not for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #85 February 3, 2004 What do I believe? :I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. So them all the Beauty they possess insiiiiiiiiiiiiide. Give them a seeeeeeense of pride . . . : Man can I sing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SublimeBreeze 0 #86 February 3, 2004 I am an Athiest and I am proud. I am believe I am a well ajusted member of society with a great sense of morals built upon truths that all humans have regaurdless of religion such as people feel pain, life deserves respect, ect... Im sure the are other threads out there that argue. I dont think place is here. Peace Sean Sean Sean In Thailand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #87 February 3, 2004 QuoteYou may consider yourself PM'd for the blatent derogatory - Oh, Good Lord. Sigh.....ok, we'll go over this one more time....anytime someone comes onto the site out of the blue and starts getting into the controversial threads without so much as testing the waters out first in the forums, it sends off warning signals for trolls. Your friend had the robot in the corner waving his arms around and saying, "warning, Will Robinson, warning"! As a moderator, we have to continually stay on the outlook for said trolls. As I was reading the thread, I started wondering who this guy was, where did he come from today of all days, to start posting on only this one thread and the other one you started. Then he said he was your friend. Bingo....oh boy, that explains a lot. It's hard for me to understand how you can be so sensitive to that one line that I wrote, when you are the one blantently starting threads on controversial topics. What did you expect?She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #88 February 3, 2004 Quote:I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. So them all the Beauty they possess insiiiiiiiiiiiiide. Give them a seeeeeeense of pride . . . : OHHHH!!!! Damn you! Now I have that stupid song stuck in my head. That's what I get for reading religious threads that I know I shouldn't be reading! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #89 February 3, 2004 I believe I'll have another beer! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #90 February 3, 2004 I believe I now know why animals eat their young. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hmatousek 0 #91 February 3, 2004 I believe there is good in everything. I do not believe in an organized religion. I do not criticize those who believe differently than myself. Each one of us finds peace in something, religion, skydiving, maybe both. I feel that each person has a right to believe what they want to believe, that's what gives each individual his or her own peace. I for one have peace in all that has been given too me and am okay with the fact that I don't know exactly how it got here. HeatherLife doesn't have to be perfect in order to be beautiful! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #92 February 3, 2004 I believe I'll have a donut.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvToFly 0 #93 February 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteYou may consider yourself PM'd for the blatent derogatory - Oh, Good Lord. Sigh.....ok, we'll go over this one more time....anytime someone comes onto the site out of the blue and starts getting into the controversial threads without so much as testing the waters out first in the forums, it sends off warning signals for trolls. Your friend had the robot in the corner waving his arms around and saying, "warning, Will Robinson, warning"! As a moderator, we have to continually stay on the outlook for said trolls. As I was reading the thread, I started wondering who this guy was, where did he come from today of all days, to start posting on only this one thread and the other one you started. Then he said he was your friend. Bingo....oh boy, that explains a lot. It's hard for me to understand how you can be so sensitive to that one line that I wrote, when you are the one blantently starting threads on controversial topics. What did you expect? You jump out of Deland, right? I am probably going to be headed down there in not too long to get some tunnel time in FL, etc... Can't wait to meet you in person. Maybe what appears to be a failure to communicate can be straightened out then - "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #94 February 3, 2004 QuoteQuote:I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. So them all the Beauty they possess insiiiiiiiiiiiiide. Give them a seeeeeeense of pride . . . : OHHHH!!!! Damn you! Now I have that stupid song stuck in my head. That's what I get for reading religious threads that I know I shouldn't be reading! Yeah and you got a PM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuvToFly 0 #95 February 3, 2004 QuoteI believe there is good in everything. I do not believe in an organized religion. I do not criticize those who believe differently than myself. Each one of us finds peace in something, religion, skydiving, maybe both. I feel that each person has a right to believe what they want to believe, that's what gives each individual his or her own peace. I for one have peace in all that has been given too me and am okay with the fact that I don't know exactly how it got here. Heather Hey there Heather... Seems what you are saying is that we all allow each other to worship, believe or not believe - and still respect each other despite those differences. Also seems that would cut a lot of tension between folks of different beliefs if they knew they could express those beliefs and not be persecuted for feeling that way. After all, that's why we left Old England (By the way, WAS actually on the Mayflower - just in case you were wondering. Ticket was cheap, but food was lousy) "The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #96 February 3, 2004 I believe I'm the only buddhist here. How kool is that? www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoShitThereIWas 0 #97 February 3, 2004 "I don't believe in -isms, I just believe in me." I believe in universal balance and that the key lies in Energy and the Laws of Energy Conservation. Whatever level a person takes that to with the Scientific Law that Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transformed and the Expanding Universe Theory says that we are just continuing to expand ... so is energy just drifting in time as the universe expands infinitely or will the universe contract making it a finite system which will bring all of the energy back closer together? Or does the energy of the universe just recycle itself fully and in it's most efficient state? Dang who the hell knows ... As Bill from Bill and Ted once said, "All we are is dust in the wind, dude." My choice wasn't listed in the poll. I am open-minded about an afterlife/spirit/ghosts/whatever energy ... is there such a thing? That lady Sylvia Brown sure seems to think so. Granted there are a lot of quacks out there but have you ever seen Silvia Brown in action??? She has even allegedly solved many murder crimes based on her psychic abilities. She allegedly talks to people and can see and communicate with them on "the other side". Psychics sometimes talk about crossing over and how some people don't/haven't. I wonder if that is true, how do those souls manage to not cross over and where/when are they? I happen to be a little more cynical and scientific though. I can't recall ever seeing or experiencing a whole lot of supernatural stuff. The only super weird stuff I can remember happening to me in my life is a couple of wierd feelings of out of body experiences which I think was caused from being in a super relaxed state because I did some research on that and I am pretty sure I saw a UFO once in Ottawa, Illinois. And no I was not drunk or on any drugs. I saw some very vivid lights in the sky coming from behind some clouds and I can't imagine what else it could have been ... it was just like out of a movie because of course I was totally alone, driving toward the Skydive Chicago DZ at night and I saw the very bright lights coming from behind the clouds. I was trying to figure out what the heck it was thinking it had to have been lightning, (what else could it have been?) but I know it wasn't. The really freaky thing about it was the next day I happened to overhear the news on TV. There were some very huge "Signs" in the corn fields located adjacent to the lights and they were HUGE patterns that no one could have created without a lot of manpower, time and effort. The news station reported it like it was nothing out of the ordinary ... just a couple of many acred crop designs that appeared overnight ... People were out touring them with their families the next day. So yes, I have experienced a couple of weird things in my lifetime but they may have been few and far between although I have known people to share their supernatural stories which are quite convincing and been to some places on this planet which are considered highly "spiritual". They still tell ghost stories about spirits in many places from sightings where many lives have been lost like Gettysburg. So whether my experiences and/or other's are real or coincidence, who knows? I do believe that there is a lot we still don't know or understand about Energy or it's wide range of characteristics.Roy Bacon: "Elvises, light your fires." Sting: "Be yourself no matter what they say." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #98 February 3, 2004 Ok, FINE! But ya know, as much as I've always hated that song, now that I read the lyrics - it does have a really good message. (And now you can go sing the whole thing to your wife. ) QuoteI believe the children are our are future Teach them well and let them lead the way Show them all the beauty they possess inside Give them a sense of pride to make it easier Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be Everybody searching for a hero People need someone to look up to I never found anyone to fulfill my needs A lonely place to be So I learned to depend on me [Chorus:] I decided long ago, never to walk in anyone's shadow If I fail, if I succeed At least I live as I believe No matter what they take from me They can't take away my dignity Because the greatest love of all Is happening to me I found the greatest love of all Inside of me The greatest love of all Is easy to achieve Learning to love yourself It is the greatest love of all I believe the children are our future Teach them well and let them lead the way Show them all the beauty they possess inside Give them a sense of pride to make it easier Let the children's laughter remind us how we used to be [Chorus] And if by chance, that special place That you've been dreaming of Leads you to a lonely place Find your strength in love Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #99 February 3, 2004 QuoteYou jump out of Deland, right? I am probably going to be headed down there in not too long to get some tunnel time in FL, etc... Can't wait to meet you in person. Maybe what appears to be a failure to communicate can be straightened out then If it is my jumping weekend, I am more than happy to meet with dz.commers in Deland. Many times I can't make it up there because of my child care schedule though. If that happens, you'll be happy to know that you can join the "Waaaaaaa, Skymama dissed me" club that Clay and Muenkel have formed. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #100 February 3, 2004 QuoteYou jump out of Deland, right? I am probably going to be headed down there in not too long to get some tunnel time in FL, etc... Can't wait to meet you in person. Don't count on it. She dissed me when I went down to the tunnel and I know her! You have to be very special to meet the Mama. Just teasing you Andrea.Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites