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akurtom

How do you go from that friend to someone special?

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Still debating. I think i'd rather avoid a boogie full of dzcom drama and save my money for a smaller boogie or weekend away.



Thats so sad .. on so many levels.

"We are all here to skydive" CSpenceFly quoting someone else who was sick of the drama.



AMEN!



You said it sistah!!! Now go put your lead on so you dont float on me! B|

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Still debating. I think i'd rather avoid a boogie full of dzcom drama and save my money for a smaller boogie or weekend away.
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Thats so sad .. on so many levels.

"We are all here to skydive" CSpenceFly quoting someone else who was sick of the drama.
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AMEN!



Yes it is sad. i wish i could just go anywhere and skydive, but the last few big boogies i've attended, have been ridiculously full of drama crap. A trip to another DZ for a weekend trip when there isn't a big boogie planned is more my style any more. What can i say, some bad apples ruined it for me. [:/]

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Akurtom, there is no way I've found to sucessfully go from friend to lover.

If you really respect her and admire her and love her as a friend and want the best for her... well... you're really her friend. You'll just have to suck it up, buttercup.

Sorry buddy, she doesn't want to have sex with you. She doesn't want get intimate with you. She doesn't want you to see her naked, and she doesn't want to see you naked. All she wants is for you to be the guy with whom she can get totally plastered, and not have to worry about where's she's gonna wake up. Got it?

Time to be the nice guy we all know you are deep down inside under those raging skydiver hormones. You like her? Take care of her and show her you care. You "love" her? Take care of her and show her you care. You want to fuck her brains out? Too bad. Take care of her and show her you care, or leave her alone.

If she wanted to be your lover, she would have let you know by now. The reason she loves you as a friend is that she feels she can trust you. I would strongly encourage you not to fuck up the relationship you have with her.

Five years ago, I was asking the same question you're asking. I realized it wasn't going to happen, so I made the decision to be her friend.

Since then, I have had more fun with her than with any of my male friends. I have jumped with her. I have had sex with some of the women she introduced me to. I have had long term relationships with a few of those beautiful women. I have seen her naked. Twice.

That's not to say it's been all a one way relationship. I have kept her out of situations and away from people that were no good. I have held her hair while she puked her guts out. I have held her as she screamed her rage against a vicious world. I have forced pills down her throat -- medicine which might prevent her from hurting herself. I have told her boyfriend he's a fucking prick and should get out, and stood between them as he tried to get in. I have been her there for her whenever she needed me.

I have been her friend.

So it's time to make a decision. Is it worth it to be her friend?

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Ohhhh...Sunny is getting serious on me, so I will have to agree.

It really isn't always about "We are all here to skydive." It hasn't even been the boogies I've been to lately. Oh...and this isn't about anyone here either.

Yes, I wish I could ignore people. You just can't.

You can't ignore people who are constantly trying to one up you. "Me: I just did a fun freefly jump. Them: Yeah, well, I did a freefly jump with a tube while in a hybrid, and it was the best hybrid ever because this guy that everyone should know was on it, and he told me how awesome I am." I am happy for when people accomplish something in the sport. I love it when I see my friends do something cool. I do not like it when people constantly try to one up things.

I do not like it when people get critical of me for no good reason. This isn't about me doing something dangerous/wrong/etc and pointing it out. I love to hear what I can do better in the air. This is why I want to go in the tunnel, go to camps, etc. I want to learn. I do not need to hear comments about what I do on the ground if it doesn't affect you. I do not need to hear if I am a lesser skydiver than you. If you don't like me, that's fine. "Don't blow out my candle to make yours shine brighter." I've experienced this frequently in the sport.

Both of those things have made certain dropzones no fun and have put a damper on my fun. Maybe I should learn to ignore people, but I can't. So, because of these things, it's because increasingly difficult for me to leave my niche where things like that just don't happen to me. It's much more comfortable and fun when it really is about the skydiving. I love sharing my passion with people. This past season has been my favorite season in skydiving because that's all I've been doing. I haven't come across many egos/etc.

Long rant. Sorry!!!! :)
There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

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dont talk to them? hmm. so they decide in 15 sec , talk amongst their friends and then leave and one is none the wiser... no logic in that. pls explain



Two things - select the target rich environment and wait. Hang out and talk to your buddies.

Target?
- look for shot glasses. tequila drinkers drink for effect. they are already drunk.
- volume. attention-seeking reeks of desperation. noisy girl-shrieks about everything.
- arm waving. hugs everytime someone returns from the bathroom. dancing with arms up like they are flagging a taxi. this is attention-seeking part 2.
- leopard print clothes. you wonder how many leopards died to make that "mini" skirt. :o

Waiting?
Just stand next to the group. Eventually, one will (a) bump into you and apologize or (b) apologize for "making too much noise and partying too hard because they are crazy beeches".

When the target presents herself, ask, "Partying, huh? Are you the craziest one here?" and say nothing further. They've got to sell you now.
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lol, has this worked on you:)


oh wait it's after 11, should head to the bar now:P

Where is my fizzy-lifting drink?

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Five years ago, I was asking the same question you're asking. I realized it wasn't going to happen, so I made the decision to be her friend.



been there done that. i'm sure most guys go through this at some point. I say most b/c some never have any chance from square one

Where is my fizzy-lifting drink?

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So I'm at a boogie... I can run around and say "help me help me I'm surrounded by drama!"
.. OR I can say "fuck it I'm getting on the next load! woohoooo!"


:D I understand completely. However, even when you do your best to avoid...when you turn and walk away....sometimes, it follows. For the most part, there hasn't been too much drama for me this past season. I got into a comfort zone that I'm scared to get out of!!! :D A lot of it is because the people I've met reacently don't try to one up me, aren't jealous of me, don't try to be mean to me, etc. The people I've met and hung out with have been pretty cool.
There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

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Well, I'd love so much to see you, too. We can always do that in May, though. I understand if you cannot go to Dublin.

For me, a whole hell of a lot of silly, even extremely hurtful stuff has recently made me loose trust in people in general and feel stressed about going to Dublin. Like Sunny and Val, I have reasons, pros and cons of why I want and do not want to go. It sucks because I am pushing for the pros, but the cons keep winning...preventing me from buying my plane tickets every day (so far, anyway).

Ms. Chaoskitty ~ I promise that I will NOT float on you with a little lead and my mantis. Ask Mike F. (used to be Nightjumper)...he and I were on a belly jump together in Florida.

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this is silly... i have no time for such nonsense.....

the best dive? the last one we just did.. no matter what happened...

the only one better? 5 min call... you in? all else is irrelevant.. even if it is on video.. who the fuck cares? you cant do it again......
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This is a subject that's pretty close to my heart right now and i say just go for it. Sit her down and tell her how you feel, tell you're not stressed if she doesn't feel the same way but you feel she has to know. Good luck. :)

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Appeal to her feminine side- show her your wallet, if it's fat large and full you're in there boy!!!B|B|

I hope you're not implying that all women are gold diggers. If you are then you are meeting the wrong kind of women.

Also, you're just wrong, >:( incorrect, :| and MISTAKEN!! :S


Sillyhead. :P

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