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Wait. Are you saying my AGP 2X isn't the latest and greatest anymore?? I JUST bought it, like only a couple years ago! :P

Dave



What's AGP?
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Absolutely.

Although unless you are into High end Gaming you won't notice the difference yet.



I am indeed into High end gaming. I am going to be replacing my current P3 system with a new AMD system geared towards gaming.
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Absolutely.

Although unless you are into High end Gaming you won't notice the difference yet.



I am indeed into High end gaming. I am going to be replacing my current P3 system with a new AMD system geared towards gaming.



Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that the new PCI-E cards/chipsets were for Intel based systems? If so, I'll stay w/ AGP.

EDIT: Last time I looked I could only find PCI-E for Intel. I now see them for AMD based systems....my interest in them is now back... :)
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Are you purchasing a pre-built machine or building your own? For true high end gaming, building your own machine is the best way to get the maximum perfomance for the dollar.

Still an AMD XP or 64+ with a AGP 8X will be much better than what you are running now. I just built a nice 64+ system for a buddy with an AGP card that running awesome. If I was building I would go with the PCI E platform. There are several nice mb's to choose from.
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Absolutely.

Although unless you are into High end Gaming you won't notice the difference yet.



I am indeed into High end gaming. I am going to be replacing my current P3 system with a new AMD system geared towards gaming.


High end, eh?

In that case, load 'er up!

Start with a decent vid card, like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-124-115&depa=0
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Absolutely.

Although unless you are into High end Gaming you won't notice the difference yet.



I am indeed into High end gaming. I am going to be replacing my current P3 system with a new AMD system geared towards gaming.



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Yes for a few reasons. You can get the power you need to your video card without needing an extra 12v burst from a molex connector. Also, the architecture of it is better and in theory it will allow better graphics to happen....eventually. It will be probably close to two years to see games or programs that use PCIx to it's fullest potential. Games have to be backwards compatible for a while after new technology comes out and it won't be until the next big thing comes out that all that extra power is needed. Besides, there is a lifecycle to development that is always a generation or two behind technology. In IT hardware comes first, then the new software that uses it. Watch the Xbox and PS2 over the coming year - some of the best loooking games yet for those systems will finally hit the market just as the next consoles are getting ready to be released. Why? It took time to learn how to use the new technology, come up with an idea, design it, debug it and finally get it on the shelves. The same is true for PC games.

I am not worried that I am still using an 8x AGP card. I should be able to get top graphic performance out of it for the next two years. I only just replaced my GeForce 4200ti within the last month and that was over two years old.

However, there really are no wrong reasons to go with it now. The mobo's that come with it are affordable, the mid market cards are affordable and there is a larger selection of quality cards for PCIx than there are for AGP at the moment (ATI is having a hard time getting their x700 and x800 cards working on AGP due to heat and power issues). Also, if you have the money to waste, you can get an SLI mobo and two 6800GT's. The tests are starting to show a slight improvment in games using SLI. Yet, only the mightiest of geeks will think they need to run a game in SLI.

If you are not using your system for gaming, there is no need for such a card or system bus.
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I think the best thing about the SLI is that you can build a system now with a single SLI compliant card, and then in another year or two, buy a duplicate for cheap and see an increase in framerate on most games (which by that time will be requiring much higher specs than the system has).

IMO, somebody who buys two $600 cards NOW is just wasting their money and should give one to me :P.

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No...they just made a new standard because it is worse. :P


Actually, define better. It is definitely better performing. But for right now the price is still abit high to switch mobos and vid cards. In a year, it will be the defacto standard I suspect.
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