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What's the worst that can happen with pneumonia and altitude??

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I'm going in for chest X-rays today (NOBODY WORRY ABOUT ME it's perfectly alright! :)) My doc wants to confirm thru x-rays a diagnosis of pneumonia. 2 questions:

1.) Why bother getting x-rays?? Who cares?! She thinks I have it, I'm on these weird meds, so why do I care if it is or isn't?! I don't think it's going to change my treatment, and crikeys x-rays are freakin' pricey

2.) HONESTLY has anyone ever had very minor, mild, run-of-the-mill pneumonia and been to altitude? I am s'posed to get some pictures taken of me jumping from the air-o-plane this weekend. What's the worst that could happen??

My doc doesn't know about altitude, which is why I am asking here. :)

Well?? And look if anybody here jumps with me, honest, serious, NO BIG DEAL it's just a damn chest cold run amok, it's nothing to worry about. Crap I've had the flu that was way worse. -And it's on the way out, I'm sure of it. I'm feeling better. Doc just wants me on meds to kill it; it's been living in my lungs for too long. :P

(Nobody say 'don't do it', because I'm gonna anyway -probably. :ph34r: I don't feel sick, I'm energetic and active, as much as this wheezing will allow. :S)
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Hmmm. So you're saying you've got something in your lungs that can interfere with the exchange of oxygen. Then you plan on going to an environment where the partial pressure of O2 is lessened. Mistake No. 1.

Mistake No. 2 - you've got fluid in your lungs. Obviously, it's not pure liquid, but most likely has gases all inside of it. So you want to go to altitude, where the gases will expand (the same way as in AggieDave's colon) and perhaps push the pneumonia from one lobe into another one, thereby spreading it via frothy mass.

I don't think it's a very good idea.


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Mistake No. 2 - you've got fluid in your lungs. Obviously, it's not pure liquid, but most likely has gases all inside of it. So you want to go to altitude, where the gases will expand (the same way as in AggieDave's colon) and perhaps push the pneumonia from one lobe into another one, thereby spreading it via frothy mass.



Sh*t I didn't think of that. [:/] -Hopefully, by Saturday, the antibiotics will have killed it and that will become a non-issue. I guess I will have to ask the doc her opinion on the likelihood of proliferating this mess in that given environment.

-Note that I used the word 'proliferating'. :)
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i'd be carfull... i've got a friend (yes, i have friends, but only one) and she has ahd her lungs colapse 3 times from pnemonia... but thenagain she had it pretty advanced.... the doctors kept teling her it was the flu...... wanted to take her skydiving but because of the colapses of her lung the doctors said she could never do it...:-(

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>Why bother getting x-rays??

Cause it might be something else, or it may be more advanced than she thinks it is.

>What's the worst that could happen??

Additional pulmonary edema, hypoxia resulting in unconsciousness.

>so altitude would make it a smidge harder to breathe?

Most people have O2 sat's of 80-85% at 12,500 feet. Personally I start to lose color vision at around 76%. So if your reduced lung function causes even a 4% decrease in O2 sat, you could start seeing symptoms of hypoxia.

>honest, serious, NO BIG DEAL

You do know that it does kill people, and that it can be contagious, right?

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What they both said.

1. You're ill, dont prolong it.


I heard that...but it's already been almost 4 weeks, so it's about over

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2. You're ill, dont spread it.


No risk of that at this point. No fever.


3. You're ill, get well soon.


Thank you. :$ I feel just fine, I'm sure it's almost gone.
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Hmmm.... gotta go with lawrocket on this one. Not so much for item 2 but for item 1. If you are feeling at all light headed on the ground it is because you are not getting enough oxygen because of the fluid in your lungs. Going to altitude with less oxygen available will probably only make that sympton worse (read hypoxia). Do yourself a favor and take care of yourself for a little bit. It does not take a lot to make pneumonia worse, trust me. I ain't no Doc but have had to deal with it several times.
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Additional pulmonary edema, hypoxia resulting in unconsciousness.



K I had to look that up in a medical encyclopedia to make sure I knew what you are talking about. Yeah that would suck.

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>so altitude would make it a smidge harder to breathe?

Most people have O2 sat's of 80-85% at 12,500 feet. Personally I start to lose color vision at around 76%. So if your reduced lung function causes even a 4% decrease in O2 sat, you could start seeing symptoms of hypoxia.



10k is the ceiling on this jump. No higher. And if need be, I can always just do a dang hop n' pop. The photo is of an exit, not freefall. Mebbe that's a better idea. :)
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>honest, serious, NO BIG DEAL

You do know that it does kill people, and that it can be contagious, right?



Only the good die young, sweetheart. And I am an evil, viscious b*tch. ;) -Serious though, pneumonia kills the elderly and the young, and in it's most advanced form. -And it is not contagious in this stage, whichever it turns out to be. I am not feverish, and whether it be a cold or pneumonia (I doubt it), it is fully developed at this point and on the way out, not in the contagious stage.

Guess I will go get cleaned up and head down to the clinic...now I'm thinking that x-ray might be a really good thing. Honestly, I believe that it's nothing more than a cold that my doc just thinks is pneumonia. I'll let y'all know...whichever way, I'm telling you it's nothing to worry about...I was just looking for a worst case scenario to get some big picture idea of what might be at risk if it was more than the doc or myself believe it to be.

Thanks :)
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You could say I have a decent amount of experience with pneumonia since I have had it a total of 13 times. Last time I said "its only a small mild case" I ended up on my back in the hospital for a week.

When I have pneumonia the cold air makes it worse and tends to cause the lungs to flare up more. I have passed out twice in my life due to this - and that was just while traveling to the doctors office for a chest xray.

Walking pneumonia is very dangerous, and kills. Why? Because you seem fine for the most part and go on with your life at normal activity levels. It's not something to play with and you body is usually in a serious fight for energy and oxygen due to the fluid and congestion in your lungs.

Why do you need to rush into the air? The plane, pictures and dropzone will be there next weekend. Being on meds and having lack of oxygen seems like a bad chain.
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No risk of that at this point. No fever.


No fever does'nt mean that the germs are not contagious. :S



Most viral infections have a contagious period of 'X' days...after exposure, incubation. This is usually signalled by a fever. (You're right, a fever is not always present)

After 4 weeks, the risk of contagion to others from a viral infection I picked up has to be about nil. <--This is even assuming it was viral to begin with (which unfortunately I'm pretty sure it was [:/]).

Anyhow, I follow the docs advice on risk of spreading this to others. As I said, almost 4 weeks out, it is minimal.

I would of course take into consideration the risk to others as well. I have no right to put anyone else in a higher risk of catching 'something'. I have been Ok'd to go to school and other social settings, the only limitations being if I feel well enough to attend (which I do.)
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Why do you need to rush into the air? The plane, pictures and dropzone will be there next weekend. Being on meds and having lack of oxygen seems like a bad chain.



It's a long story...it's not the DZ cameras, it's news reporter cameras that were going to actually take a pic of me! I was so excited about it.

Ah well, If they do find something on the x-ray, I guess my 15 minutes of fame will have to be sacrificed. :(

But that's only 'IF'!!! :)
If you've had pneumonia that many times Bo, I'll take your advice into careful consideration. And if, by the wayyyyyy off chance this is something crappier than I think it is...well you'll be getting a PM from me. [:/]
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wanted to take her skydiving but because of the colapses of her lung the doctors said she could never do it...:-(



Wingi do you mean that because in the past her lung had collapsed she could never sky-jump?? Or she couldn't do it during that period of time?

Crimany I wouldn't want to risk never ever jumping again. That would suck. :(
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wanted to take her skydiving but because of the colapses of her lung the doctors said she could never do it...:-(



Wingi do you mean that because in the past her lung had collapsed she could never sky-jump?? Or she couldn't do it during that period of time?

Crimany I wouldn't want to risk never ever jumping again. That would suck. :(



I don't think you realize the extent of damage it can do to your lungs if it gets out of control. It's not something to play with. There were a few times that the dr's were concerned my lungs would collapse...which led to about two weeks of bed rest each time. You have to take it easy when you have pneumonia, your body just can't handle a normal load while that sick, even in a mild case. Trust me on this, or just ask a Dr (the better option)
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This is even assuming it was viral to begin with (which unfortunately I'm pretty sure it was ).



If it is viral, then you wouldn't be taking antibiotics.



Yes I would. 2 things at work here. <--Or did I not mention that? :$ A virus can cause an infection, which looked to be the case here. If it is, which I'm not saying it is...I am saying that I don't think it is, but....oh hell. Nevermind. :P The first round of antibiotics was Zithromax, and didn't work. Now round 2 is Bactrim, (or a generic of). Yippee freakin' skippee. My doc saw several cases of something similar, and tried to treat mine similarly. Either mine then mutated and went deeper, or wasn't the same sh*t to begin with...whichever the case, I am on antibiotics.
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I've arrived a bit late on this thread, Sometimes I have to work

I'll tell you a little story (true story) My sister had a cold, no big deal,
It went to her chest an turned into pnumonia, She wasent the complaining type
just felt a bit off but did'nt complain. The pneumonia turned into Pulmonia.
A week later she was dead.

If you have Pneumonia don't fuck around REST till it clears up

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I gotta go with Lawrocket on this one. Mainly because he used the phrase "frothy mass"

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In the grand scheme of things which is more important to you, your health or your picture being in the paper?



My PICTURE!! Life is short, but print media lives on!!! B|

No, I understand your point. That really is the 'big picture', isn't it?
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No, I understand your point. That really is the 'big picture', isn't it?



As the old saying goes, better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground. [:/]

I hope you're better soon.
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