AggieDave 6 #51 March 3, 2005 QuoteFree Running will become illegal because of shit like this which is a pity. Some of those guys aer every bit as trained and dedicated to their sport as we are to ours. And it looks cool too I was thinking about that as well. Freerunning is something I couldn't do (scared of hights) but its very impressive. That and urban freeriding, which is a mix and offshoot of Mt Biking Freeriding, trials riding and urban BMX. Quite awsome actually!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #52 March 3, 2005 Quoteit's coffe of course it is fucking hot it shouldn't need a warning label I'll save AndyMan the trouble. He's the one who usually posts this link when the obligatory mention of the "'frivolous' lawsuit over Rotten Ronnie's hot coffee" comes up in these types of threads. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #53 March 3, 2005 David Bell the creator of parkour is very talented. I am pretty sure you put him and jackie chan on a building he would be the first down . Have you seen the video of him freeclimbing that outdoor climbing wall and then doing the handstand at the top? Check out videos here. Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #54 March 3, 2005 QuoteIf the family is suing because there was nothing in place to prevent the jump, thereby saving the kid from himself, then I also hope they don't win. But, if they're suing the garage for not fencing after the kid's fall, then I think they might have an argument. Those two things are sort of the same. Since the kid intentionally placed himself in harm's way, the only reason to put a fence up (even if it was _after_ his fall) would be to stop people from intentionally placing themselves in harm's way, i.e. protecting them from themselves. If someone accidentally fell over the edge, well then the city would more arguably be in a load of shit for even the first incident. I still wouldn't sue but it does seem slightly more reasonable in that case.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #55 March 3, 2005 Quoteit's coffe of course it is fucking hot it shouldn't need a warning label Read more about that particular case, I think you'll find it pretty interesting. It wasn't as simple as some lady just spilling hot coffee on herself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bouda 0 #56 March 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteit's coffe of course it is fucking hot it shouldn't need a warning label I'll save AndyMan the trouble. He's the one who usually posts this link when the obligatory mention of the "'frivolous' lawsuit over Rotten Ronnie's hot coffee" comes up in these types of threads. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm _Pm even though that is the case i still don't ut hot object in between my legs scolding or not i know it is hot and it could burn me . do you put hot coffee between your knees ? does anyone with common sense do that . that is like grabbing an iron or a curling iron on the metal then sueing. i have had coffee burn the hell outta my mouth or had it burn my hand when it spilled a little over the sides plus te fact if it was that hot you could feel it through the cup imean come on people are dumb and the ones that are get what they deserve. Look what i made at work today mom!! Put it on the fridge http://www.bouda.moonfruit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #57 March 3, 2005 You are fast, you fixed your mistake before I caught you for calling Belle "Parkour". www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #58 March 3, 2005 QuoteYou are fast, you fixed your mistake before I caught you for calling Belle "Parkour". Yeah I couldn't remember if that was actually his name or not so I went and checked. I love the videos where they do the railing jumps. There is one where a guy jumps from one handrail to another in the rain and sticks it, that would be insanely difficult. Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #59 March 3, 2005 If this kid wins, I am going to sue my parents for my hair color. It has caused me much stress in my life. They should have had me start bleaching when I was two!!!!!!! Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bouda 0 #60 March 3, 2005 QuoteDavid Bell the creator of parkour is very talented. I am pretty sure you put him and jackie chan on a building he would be the first down . Have you seen the video of him freeclimbing that outdoor climbing wall and then doing the handstand at the top? Check out videos here. where is the video are you talking about under which tv special or the other? Look what i made at work today mom!! Put it on the fridge http://www.bouda.moonfruit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeordieSkydiver 0 #61 March 3, 2005 QuoteIf this kid wins, I am going to sue my parents for my hair color. It has caused me much stress in my life. They should have had me start bleaching when I was two!!!!!!! Are you ginger? Maybe 'everybody' should sue them?Lee _______________________________ In a world full of people, only some want to fly, is that not crazy? http://www.ukskydiver.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #62 March 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteDavid Bell the creator of parkour is very talented. I am pretty sure you put him and jackie chan on a building he would be the first down . Have you seen the video of him freeclimbing that outdoor climbing wall and then doing the handstand at the top? Check out videos here. where is the video are you talking about under which tv special or the other? Not sure just watch them all . It was like a month ago when I watched all of his videos I will look through again and try to find it. Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #63 March 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteDavid Bell the creator of parkour is very talented. I am pretty sure you put him and jackie chan on a building he would be the first down . Have you seen the video of him freeclimbing that outdoor climbing wall and then doing the handstand at the top? Check out videos here. where is the video are you talking about under which tv special or the other? Not sure just watch them all . It was like a month ago when I watched all of his videos I will look through again and try to find it. It is about 3 minutes into the top lefthand video under the TV section. Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #64 March 3, 2005 Quotedo you put hot coffee between your knees ? does anyone with common sense do that . Yeah, I've done it many times before in the exact same situation that was described in the case. Andy was driving and he stopped the car so that I could put half & half into our coffee. It's a common practice. Do I know that there is a chance of it spilling? Sure. Do I know that I could get burned from the spill? Sure. Do I know that the coffee is served at 185 degrees--hot enough to give me third degree burns?! HELL NO! I've received minor burns from spilling hot coffee on my hands, legs, whatever. I used to be a barista/coffee wench in college. The average temperature of hot coffee is 135-140 degrees. From experience I know that yes, it will hurt like hell if I happen to spill it on myself, but it won't give me severe burns that require emergency medical treatment. Typically, common sense comes from common knowledge. The point you seem to have missed is that it's not common knowledge that McDonald's coffee is 185 degrees and capable of causing third degree burns. How can you have common sense if you don't have the common knowledge? _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifewithoutanet 0 #65 March 3, 2005 QuoteBut, if they're suing the garage for not fencing after the kid's fall, then I think they might have an argument. Here's where I respectfully disagree. From the article: QuoteThere are no safety fences in place on the parking garage. D'Assaro is filing a lawsuit against the city of Orlando and the private garage owner for making little effort to correct a potential deadly risk. "There was a very, very short length of fence that was completely ineffective in preventing this from happening," D'Assaro said. So there's no safety fence in place, or there is a fence, but it's of very short lenght. Still, we have to assume there is something to prevent someone from "just falling off". Have you ever seen a parking garage without a short wall around the perimeter? I mean, c'mon...there's something this kid had to climb up on or over to make the leap. So, this was intentional. He didn't "just fall". Any fence in place would only have protected this kid from himself. The "deadly risk" is the faulty material between this kids ears. Does sound like fun, though. -C. Edit: Check the poll results halfway down the article. Given the number of frivilous lawsuits in our society, though what I'd hoped for, this is not what I expected to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bouda 0 #66 March 3, 2005 blah Look what i made at work today mom!! Put it on the fridge http://www.bouda.moonfruit.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScubaSteve 0 #67 March 3, 2005 They should also sue the City fo not having building code for parking garages require safety net/fence for structures over x feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superman0710 0 #68 March 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe family says that's not good enough and that both garages need to take responsibility before a garage jumper loses his life. This kind of shit pisses me off more than anything. How about taking responsibility for the fact that your kid is a fucking dumbass, who should be dead because he's so stupid? :werd: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #69 March 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe family says that's not good enough and that both garages need to take responsibility before a garage jumper loses his life. This kind of shit pisses me off more than anything. How about taking responsibility for the fact that your kid is a fucking dumbass, who should be dead because he's so stupid? I swear, I will NOT be like this when I have children. Ditto here chick! What I don't get is that there's only like a 2 foot gap between the buildings. How the hell does someone manage to not make it? because he's a darwin candidate obviously...bad jumpin genes, good thing his family doesnt have to clear that 2 foot gap to get to the waterhole..... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #70 March 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThe family says that's not good enough and that both garages need to take responsibility before a garage jumper loses his life. This kind of shit pisses me off more than anything. How about taking responsibility for the fact that your kid is a fucking dumbass, who should be dead because he's so stupid? I swear, I will NOT be like this when I have children. Ditto here chick! What I don't get is that there's only like a 2 foot gap between the buildings. How the hell does someone manage to not make it? because he's a darwin candidate obviously...bad jumpin genes, good thing his family doesnt have to clear that 2 foot gap to get to the waterhole..... Hell yeah zennie Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #71 March 3, 2005 QuoteOrlando Parking Garage Director Samuel Vennero admitted he was aware of at least one other incident where a garage jumper didn't make it to the other side. "I don't think we recognized it before as a danger," Vennero said. This is the important part in the article. So, the property owner was aware that this was going on. He was also aware that somebody had already gotten hurt doing it. Yeah, in that case he is negligable. You cannot allow unsafe practices to continue on your property. When you are aware, yet you do nothing about it, it is the same as actively condoning. Yeah the kid is being stupid, but the property owner never told him no to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkiD_PL8 0 #72 March 3, 2005 He may have told him not to do it. Since when do teenagers listen to authority figures? Greenie in training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
white_falcon 0 #73 March 3, 2005 QuoteYou cannot allow unsafe practices to continue on your property. When you are aware, yet you do nothing about it, it is the same as actively condoning. Yea, I am aware of that arguement (and as far as I am concerned it is bullsh*t) but it is truly no different than and individual having a trampoline at home, the yard is fenced, with a locked gate, AND POSTED. If a kid climbs the fence and STILL jumps on the trampoline, and breaks his neck, they can sue YOU, the trampoline owner and WIN!! (true insurance cases on the books for this very thing). But like everyone else said, its about taking PERSONAL responsibility for your OWN actions. Why should "we all" have to protect "each other" from doing stupid shit??? Makes no sense to me, but I'm not a lawyer, so what do I know. LOL Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #74 March 3, 2005 One of the guys I used to hang out with as a teenager sometimes did this. It always made my stomach drop to see him jump across to the other parking garage, but most of the group would cheer him on. I was sure we would be scraping him off the ground at some point, but luckily he always made it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #75 March 3, 2005 QuoteYea, I am aware of that arguement (and as far as I am concerned it is bullsh*t) but it is truly no different than and individual having a trampoline at home, the yard is fenced, with a locked gate, AND POSTED. If a kid climbs the fence and STILL jumps on the trampoline, and breaks his neck, they can sue YOU, the trampoline owner and WIN!! (true insurance cases on the books for this very thing). It is completely different. They knew this was happening. It appears they did nothing to stop the continued bahaviour on their property. The case you brought up, I agree is stupid and I hate it when they win cases like that. In this case, the property owner has not been very diligent in the operation of his property, that will come at a price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites