Zenister 0 #101 March 4, 2005 QuoteI haven't even begun to read this entire thread, but it seems there are an awful lot of people against kids on the DZ for the kids own good (or am I missing something?). definitely missing something.... its not the kids we mind at all.(I even spent a while teaching a little one how to fold a pilot chute properly recently) kids (other peoples) are great, bring them out let them get some sun (but keep them off the landing area and out of my lines...particularly when they have icecream...).... we 'object' to the parents who expect us to curb our language and behavior because they brought their kids into our playground.....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #102 March 4, 2005 QuoteI have absolutely no problem with children if they are well-behaved and their parents are able to educate them as you do. However, I will not (unless I am specifically asked) tone down my language just because some parents decided to bring their children to a place where you have to be 18 to participate. Exactly! Parental/Guardian supervision is the key. This is true anywhere you take the kids. I would think as a kid, watching skydivers would be extremely exciting. I would not want to deny an interested kid that experience. We cannot control anyone elses behavior, nor can we shield our kids from it. We can however educate them as to what we deem appropriate. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
white_falcon 0 #103 March 4, 2005 OK, Figured I was missing something. My kids are at the DZ almost every weekend, I ask no one to "tone down" anything they do, and my kids know where and when they are allowed to be in areas (ie the packing and landing areas) and they also understand the ramifications if they do misbehave. I also have no tolerance for misbehaving kids or parents that attmept their morals on others "just" because their kids are around. Scott Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #104 March 4, 2005 I agree with you jeff. The problem is most young Americans have not been taught any type of Moral or Ethic code anymore. People believe its ok just to go around and say what ever they feel. Well , for them why dont they go around at Work in front of their Boss and say F... or something. Because they know its not accepted at the Work place. If that were the Case I guess the President could just walk around and say whatever he felt like F... S... Mother F..... in front of the Oval office or in Front of the Media. Bottom Line folks Grow UP learn something about Morals and Ethics it may save your life someday. If the DZ persists well I just dont go there or Jump and thats their Loss of Business. A good place of Business where everyone can enjoy a Sport has to have somekind of Guidelines Period. That way we can all Benefit from something we as Skydivers Enjoy in Life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #105 March 4, 2005 Kids should never be on the packing floor unless their parent or guardian is holding their hand. I grew up on a dz from day one and remeber seeing things that some people dont see until they are 21. I think I turned out all right. My parents put me to bed just after the fire was started, unless it was the 4th and then it was fireworks time. Some of my first memories are my dad telling me to walk behind the plane and walk around rigs, NOT STEP OVER LINES. That is the one major thing that bugs me about kids at dzs. Parents teach kids to step over lines when someone is packing.WRONG. Teach your kids to walk around rigs. I dont know how many times kids have snagged my lines trying to jump over them. I know not all dz kids are bad but weekend warriors bring their kids out for the first time and dont even watch them. At our dz the dzo kids and regular jumpers kids who are there all the time are awesome.And if your kid bothers me I will let you know and if my language bothers you and your kids, Stay at home or leave your kids in the car and bring the dog in. Oh yeah FUCK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #106 March 4, 2005 QuoteI agree with you jeff. The problem is most young Americans have not been taught any type of Moral or Ethic code anymore. People believe its ok just to go around and say what ever they feel. Well , for them why dont they go around at Work in front of their Boss and say F... or something. Because they know its not accepted at the Work place. If that were the Case I guess the President could just walk around and say whatever he felt like F... S... Mother F..... in front of the Oval office or in Front of the Media. Bottom Line folks Grow UP learn something about Morals and Ethics it may save your life someday. If the DZ persists well I just dont go there or Jump and thats their Loss of Business. A good place of Business where everyone can enjoy a Sport has to have somekind of Guidelines Period. That way we can all Benefit from something we as Skydivers Enjoy in Life. I have been know to swear in front of my boss....no problem there.. And I vaguely remember Cheney and Bush both swearing by accident in front of the media. Your morals are not mine. The word FUCK is not a bad word handed down by God. Its designation as a bad word was imposed by man and then incorporated as an offense to God later. Just because some societies agreed upon that ideal does not make it right nor does it mean I have to follow it. So I guess I will just go on as I am instead of "growing up". I wish I had a horse too. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #107 March 4, 2005 What's up with all the Random Capital Letters in Your Post? Are you German? Even then, they only capitalize nouns. I agree with everyone else who said that a dropzone is an adult playground. And if you're looking for one where people are "mature" and don't cuss, check out Utah. I'm sure they have a couple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #108 March 4, 2005 QuoteI have been know to swear in front of my boss....no problem there.. And I vaguely remember Cheney and Bush both swearing by accident in front of the media. Ok maybe its ok and your Boss doesn't mind. The Bottom line is it doesn't Work for everyone. This is an all People oriented Sport keep in mind. Im sure everyone slips every now and then nobodys perfect even me. Being in the Airborne Rangers and the Army 8 Yrs is proof enough for me..Let me tell ya it got old Man. As for you Morals your right. Yours are not mine either so whats that tell ya. Sometimes you gotta give a little in life and make some Sacrifices and take the Long Road. I have and Learned something new. It taught me, molded me and better for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #109 March 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteI have been know to swear in front of my boss....no problem there.. And I vaguely remember Cheney and Bush both swearing by accident in front of the media. Ok maybe its ok and your Boss doesn't mind. The Bottom line is it doesn't Work for everyone. This is an all People oriented Sport keep in mind. Im sure everyone slips every now and then nobodys perfect even me. Being in the Airborne Rangers and the Army 8 Yrs is proof enough for me..Let me tell ya it got old Man. As for you Morals your right. Yours are not mine either so whats that tell ya. Sometimes you gotta give a little in life and make some Sacrifices and take the Long Road. I have and Learned something new. It taught me, molded me and better for it. Just to clarify things for me - Define "better" Better how? Better in who's opinion? and just for the record - People that think they are better than others offend me.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #110 March 4, 2005 you really need to do some research into the terms you throw around so liberally, as your use of them is severely flawed... Morals and Ethics have nothing to do with your personal perception of certain words or where and how they are used.. and FYI F bombs and such are rather common around here. (one of the largest engineering/contracting corporations in the US) in fact my boss let one fly less than an hour ago... its a means of expression, nothing more and like all words only has the power you give/attribute to it..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #111 March 4, 2005 Probably because I Stink at Typing... Utah, Nah too far. like it here. My Home...DZ Full Blooded American Beef here.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #112 March 4, 2005 Thanks for the Tip I'll be sure and check it out.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dougjumper 0 #113 March 4, 2005 Better Person for the Lessons in Life I Learned. Not by one's opinion. Why Cause everyones got one. I'm just an regular Joe no better than anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #114 March 4, 2005 Now wait a minute - I know Joe - called him last Saturday in fact - you ain't him - or Jaye has some SERIOUS 'splanin' to do.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dougjumper 0 #115 March 4, 2005 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #116 March 5, 2005 Quote agree with everyone else who said that a dropzone is an adult playground. And if you're looking for one where people are "mature" and don't cuss, check out Utah. I'm sure they have a couple yes utah has a few dropzones.... ofcourse i've said fuck at most of em... not a big deal...... now trying to offer some of the tandems beer might not go over too well, but that's a whole nother thing.... utahis no diffrent than anyother state... well besides someof thier wied alcohol laws....... hehehe.. only 4 more days untilli leve this place.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrelr 0 #117 March 5, 2005 Brilliant thread, everyone! I've been hanging around DZs for all my adult life. They're ideal places for all of us who refuse to grow up. They're populated by groups of foulmouthed, uncouth, badly behaved, unwashed but very memorable people. People who make up my oldest and dearest friends. I also have a 12 year old son. If he hadn't almost grown up on DZs, I would never have seen him. He was almost born on one (6 hours after we left that day). The profanity he hears, he accepts as DZ talk. He doesn't talk that way at home, and I doubt he's any more profane than his buddies at school. My only proviso is that he goes to bed before the REALLY rough stuff starts at night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sfzombie13 324 #118 March 5, 2005 do you guys use union labor? i'm a journeyman carpenter always looking for some tips on where i can find employment. talk about language differences at work: i was in the military for 11 years(4 as a combat engineer, the rest in a special forces unit)and a construction worker for almost 10. then i got a job as a telemarketer. talk about hard not to use "bad" language. my 2 y o sonhears stuff every now and then, but we try to limit it. he has been to the dz(military) before, he loves chopper jumps. whenever someone at one of our dz's brings kids, we try to watch our language around them, it's called respect...for the guy who brought his son/daughter to watch dad jump. if we feel the need to swear, we walk away from them. if they overhear something, oh well, look at where they are. and if you think it gets bad at a civilian dz, just think about all that adrenaline mixed with just testosterone(no women allowed in the unit-no supervision) then mix the alcohol in after the jump....i agree with the consensus, however i try not to do certain things in front of children it's the way i was raised._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mixoligist 0 #119 March 7, 2005 Fuck everybody...I'll bring my fucking kid anywhere I fucking want. If you got a fucking problem with my kid than you got a major fucking problem with me. My kid is fucking well behaved, he has more fucking manners than most adults I know. I bring him to the fucking DZ alot.He is great to have around and it's a fucking great environment. Explicit language is everywhere! I've taught him that some fucking people use explicit language for lack of any other way to fucking express themselves. We choose not to talk that way.................................. Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dougjumper 0 #120 March 8, 2005 Quote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #121 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. Fuckin A right there is!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #122 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. IF you read his last line, I believe he was saying that he chooses not to swear. However, I see no reason not to use swear words in tandem with more a "dignified" vocabulary. I will not rule out 7 or so words from my vocabulary simply because they have been NAUGHTY. But then again, you would not believe the raping and pillaging that "fuck" does on a nightly basis. It's most definately a word that is horrible and should never be uttered in a sentence. It is probably the most evil word I have ever seen. For instance is it much nicer, when killing someone, to day, "I am going to cut you from penis to cranium and then waltz on your lower intestines." than to say, "I am going to fucking cut you from dick to fucking head and then breakdance on you fucking guts." Using the polite terminology, it almost seems okay to kill someone...so long as you don't swear of course. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. 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Dougjumper 0 #113 March 4, 2005 Better Person for the Lessons in Life I Learned. Not by one's opinion. Why Cause everyones got one. I'm just an regular Joe no better than anyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #114 March 4, 2005 Now wait a minute - I know Joe - called him last Saturday in fact - you ain't him - or Jaye has some SERIOUS 'splanin' to do.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #116 March 5, 2005 Quote agree with everyone else who said that a dropzone is an adult playground. And if you're looking for one where people are "mature" and don't cuss, check out Utah. I'm sure they have a couple yes utah has a few dropzones.... ofcourse i've said fuck at most of em... not a big deal...... now trying to offer some of the tandems beer might not go over too well, but that's a whole nother thing.... utahis no diffrent than anyother state... well besides someof thier wied alcohol laws....... hehehe.. only 4 more days untilli leve this place.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrelr 0 #117 March 5, 2005 Brilliant thread, everyone! I've been hanging around DZs for all my adult life. They're ideal places for all of us who refuse to grow up. They're populated by groups of foulmouthed, uncouth, badly behaved, unwashed but very memorable people. People who make up my oldest and dearest friends. I also have a 12 year old son. If he hadn't almost grown up on DZs, I would never have seen him. He was almost born on one (6 hours after we left that day). The profanity he hears, he accepts as DZ talk. He doesn't talk that way at home, and I doubt he's any more profane than his buddies at school. My only proviso is that he goes to bed before the REALLY rough stuff starts at night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #118 March 5, 2005 do you guys use union labor? i'm a journeyman carpenter always looking for some tips on where i can find employment. talk about language differences at work: i was in the military for 11 years(4 as a combat engineer, the rest in a special forces unit)and a construction worker for almost 10. then i got a job as a telemarketer. talk about hard not to use "bad" language. my 2 y o sonhears stuff every now and then, but we try to limit it. he has been to the dz(military) before, he loves chopper jumps. whenever someone at one of our dz's brings kids, we try to watch our language around them, it's called respect...for the guy who brought his son/daughter to watch dad jump. if we feel the need to swear, we walk away from them. if they overhear something, oh well, look at where they are. and if you think it gets bad at a civilian dz, just think about all that adrenaline mixed with just testosterone(no women allowed in the unit-no supervision) then mix the alcohol in after the jump....i agree with the consensus, however i try not to do certain things in front of children it's the way i was raised._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mixoligist 0 #119 March 7, 2005 Fuck everybody...I'll bring my fucking kid anywhere I fucking want. If you got a fucking problem with my kid than you got a major fucking problem with me. My kid is fucking well behaved, he has more fucking manners than most adults I know. I bring him to the fucking DZ alot.He is great to have around and it's a fucking great environment. Explicit language is everywhere! I've taught him that some fucking people use explicit language for lack of any other way to fucking express themselves. We choose not to talk that way.................................. Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougjumper 0 #120 March 8, 2005 Quote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #121 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. Fuckin A right there is!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #122 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. IF you read his last line, I believe he was saying that he chooses not to swear. However, I see no reason not to use swear words in tandem with more a "dignified" vocabulary. I will not rule out 7 or so words from my vocabulary simply because they have been NAUGHTY. But then again, you would not believe the raping and pillaging that "fuck" does on a nightly basis. It's most definately a word that is horrible and should never be uttered in a sentence. It is probably the most evil word I have ever seen. For instance is it much nicer, when killing someone, to day, "I am going to cut you from penis to cranium and then waltz on your lower intestines." than to say, "I am going to fucking cut you from dick to fucking head and then breakdance on you fucking guts." Using the polite terminology, it almost seems okay to kill someone...so long as you don't swear of course. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mixoligist 0 #123 March 8, 2005 My post was a joke...ha ha ?.................................. Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 5 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing × Sign In Sign Up Forums Dropzones Classifieds Gear Indoor Articles Photos Videos Calendar Stolen Fatalities Subscriptions Leaderboard Activity Back Activity All Activity My Activity Streams Unread Content Content I Started
turtlespeed 226 #121 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. Fuckin A right there is!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GTAVercetti 0 #122 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. IF you read his last line, I believe he was saying that he chooses not to swear. However, I see no reason not to use swear words in tandem with more a "dignified" vocabulary. I will not rule out 7 or so words from my vocabulary simply because they have been NAUGHTY. But then again, you would not believe the raping and pillaging that "fuck" does on a nightly basis. It's most definately a word that is horrible and should never be uttered in a sentence. It is probably the most evil word I have ever seen. For instance is it much nicer, when killing someone, to day, "I am going to cut you from penis to cranium and then waltz on your lower intestines." than to say, "I am going to fucking cut you from dick to fucking head and then breakdance on you fucking guts." Using the polite terminology, it almost seems okay to kill someone...so long as you don't swear of course. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mixoligist 0 #123 March 8, 2005 My post was a joke...ha ha ?.................................. Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 5 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
GTAVercetti 0 #122 March 8, 2005 QuoteQuote Fuck everybody..Explicit language is everywhere! Quote Well I'm just gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there...Yea..uh..Yea.. sorry if thats the only dialect you know and can say due to a lack of a different Word. There are always many ways to express ones self. IF you read his last line, I believe he was saying that he chooses not to swear. However, I see no reason not to use swear words in tandem with more a "dignified" vocabulary. I will not rule out 7 or so words from my vocabulary simply because they have been NAUGHTY. But then again, you would not believe the raping and pillaging that "fuck" does on a nightly basis. It's most definately a word that is horrible and should never be uttered in a sentence. It is probably the most evil word I have ever seen. For instance is it much nicer, when killing someone, to day, "I am going to cut you from penis to cranium and then waltz on your lower intestines." than to say, "I am going to fucking cut you from dick to fucking head and then breakdance on you fucking guts." Using the polite terminology, it almost seems okay to kill someone...so long as you don't swear of course. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mixoligist 0 #123 March 8, 2005 My post was a joke...ha ha ?.................................. Better you than me .................................. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 5 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
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