huntdawg05 0 #1 April 1, 2009 I currently have a J3 Javelin Odyssey and was thinking about putting a 135 in there. Would that fit in there safely? Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #2 April 1, 2009 Did you look at the compatibility charts published by Sun Path (aka the Javelin factory)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntdawg05 0 #3 April 1, 2009 Yes and it says a J3 holds up to 170, but I was not sure if this meant a 135 could be put in there safely. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #4 April 1, 2009 javelins (generally) have 3 canopies that will fit in them (as per sunpath). if it says it will take a 170, that means it will take a 190 (but be a bit tight), a 170 (just right) or a 150 (a little loose) a 135 would be too small."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #5 April 1, 2009 I disagree. I have put a 135 9cell into a J3 sized container without any problems. It just needed sloppy pro-packing and it was just fine. assumptions vs. real life experiences :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #6 April 1, 2009 It may fit, it may not. I put an 135 Airlocked canopy in my J3 briefly while I waited for my new container. The 135 airlocked fit well enough. Airlocked canopies are said to pack one size larger due to the extra fabric, so you shouldn't put to much faith in my success. You can usually put a canopy one size larger or smaller than the manufacturer recommends. You're talking about putting a canopy two sizes smaller than the manufacturer recommends. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #7 April 1, 2009 QuoteI disagree. I have put a 135 9cell into a J3 sized container without any problems. It just needed sloppy pro-packing and it was just fine. assumptions vs. real life experiences :) Well, it may have worked out all right for you, but......what you may not have realized is that you were at a significantly higher risk for a premature container opening with the 135 in there. The container will not close as tightly with a loose "sloppy" pack job. Sure you can shorten the closing loop but that only works to a point. I believe the manufacturers recommendations ARE based on "real life experiences" not "assumptions". IMHO, a 135 is too loose for a J-3 (except maybe airlocks which pack bigger). Also if it's a 7-cell, such as a Spectre it will be even looser. Can you get away with it? Sure. Is it a smart idea? Probably not.Blues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #8 April 1, 2009 Dude, HONESTLY, if I felt it was not safe, I would not do it. keep in mind, it's a lot harder to do this with a container where the closing loop is built into the bottom flap, as opposed to the Jav where it comes out of the bottom of the container. I am not trying to be confrontational, I am saying it had been done, and it was done without sacrificing safety, or even good looks. Let me explain what I mean by "sloppy propack". I meant dont tighten up your folds, but rather make them so they fill the bag out evenly. I did not mean to just trashpack it :) The problem with Sunpath is that a blanket "135 will fit" may not work for all the canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huntdawg05 0 #9 April 1, 2009 Thanks for the recommendations. I was just curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nbblood 0 #10 April 2, 2009 QuoteDude, HONESTLY, if I felt it was not safe, I would not do it. keep in mind, it's a lot harder to do this with a container where the closing loop is built into the bottom flap, as opposed to the Jav where it comes out of the bottom of the container. I am not trying to be confrontational, I am saying it had been done, and it was done without sacrificing safety, or even good looks. Let me explain what I mean by "sloppy propack". I meant dont tighten up your folds, but rather make them so they fill the bag out evenly. I did not mean to just trashpack it :) The problem with Sunpath is that a blanket "135 will fit" may not work for all the canopies. I understand exactly what you meant. I'm not saying it can't be done. It certainly can. I'm just saying it's not as safe as a properly sized container for the canopy. Filling the bag out as you described is exactly what I thought you had done. If it's going to be loose, that's what I'd do too. But the simple fact is there isn't as much fabric in the bag and it doesn't hold it as firmly. Simple fact. I don't care if you choose to do it. I'm not saying you're going to die. I'm just saying a properly sized container is a better recommendation, IMHO. Seriously, I'm not trying to jump down your throat, but manufacturers make recommendations for their products for a reason. A lot of people that didn't listen to the recommendations wish they had for various reasons. Are you really ready to recommend something the container manufacturer does not because of your experience? I'm certainly not.Blues, Nathan If you wait 'til the last minute, it'll only take a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #11 April 2, 2009 ok, seems like you and I are on the same page. It can be done, but not recommended to be done on regular basis. I believe that's our consensus :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites