half-a-greek 0 #1 February 25, 2009 I've been told that the cost of a zp canopy decreases by $1 every jump that is made on it. However, how much would you dock off the price for every year that goes by? Even if the thing was sitting in a closet since the day it was purchased. In my opinion, time deteriorates everything, doesn't matter what it is. Any other things to look at when trying to determine the cost of a canopy? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #2 February 25, 2009 >Any other things to look at when trying to determine the cost of a canopy? Whether anyone wants to fly the thing? I have a Nova 150 with under 100 jumps on it. It's probably worth $50 as a cutaway canopy. A Monarch will be a similar story, although you could probably get $200 for it since it won't be trying to kill you (well, at least not once it opens.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #3 February 25, 2009 Keep in mind, all those estimates are VERY subjective. the price is what someone is WILLING to pay you for it, not what you WANT to sell it for. Nylon gets degraded by heat and sunlight. YOUR opinion on age degradation is great, but quite invalid. In other words if you were to present me that argument when trying to buy from me, I will just ignore it. Ok, back to your question - yes, age makes a difference, but purely from a marketing standpoint. The product (even if current) is older, and thus theoretically should be worth less. Will some sellers agree ? Sure, some will. But others (like me) won't think it makes that much difference. I would say the $$$ difference what I would consider a fair market value on 2 identical model canopies that are 10 years apart is negligible. - but that, again, is MY subjective opinion. I hope this makes at least a little sense. If you want to throw me some canopy models and jump #s adn DOMs I can guesstimate what their Fair Market Value is. BSBD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
half-a-greek 0 #4 February 25, 2009 I'm looking at purchasing a 230sqft Saber 1. I'm still trying to get the serial number to verify the manufacturing date with PD. supposedly it has around 450-500 jumps with a new line set 135 jumps ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #5 February 25, 2009 what is the seller trying to sell it for ? what do you think it's worth ? PS not to sound like an AR dick, but it's sabRE, not Saber :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #6 February 25, 2009 Quote I have a Nova 150 with under 100 jumps on it. It's probably worth $50 as a cutaway canopy. I'll give ya $55 if you'll cover shipping. To the OP - if what you're looking at is a currently produced model, take the current selling price for new (which may or may not be the list price), subtract $100 for putting that first jump on it, then about $1 a jump after that. Age of the canopy, as long as it's been stored correctly, doesn't matter a whole lot from a fabric degradation viewpoint, but you may be able to negotiate a lower price based on age if you can determine what the selling price was for it when it was new. Age may matter in that the manufacturer could have changed things over the years (examples would be the various line trim configurations that have been available for the Triathlon and the different slider sizes available for original Sabres). The above is only a starting point. Other adjustments to price can include line condition (new linesets run a couple hundred bucks), where it was jumped (a canopy jumped exclusively in the desert is probably going to have less "life" in it than a canopy with the same number of jumps jumped primarily in Florida), damage history (any patches?), and even color choices. Not to mention how badly the seller needs to get rid of it and how badly you want to buy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
half-a-greek 0 #7 February 25, 2009 Quote what is the seller trying to sell it for ? what do you think it's worth ? PS not to sound like an AR dick, but it's sabRE, not Saber :) haha np. The seller wants to give it away for 1000. In my mind, since the sabre 2 came out I feel that it takes away from the value of a sabre 1... call that subjective, I know it is, but I'm just trying to save as many pennies as possible 450-500ish jumps... new lines 135 jumps ago... not the original owner... I dunno, I'm beginning to feel that 1000 isn't all to bad. However, in my perfect world the price would be 500 bucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #8 February 25, 2009 $1000 for a Sabre1-230 is a hefty price. If it's in a good condition and the lines are as described, I would price it more in the 700-800 range. $500 is about the going rate for Sabre1s with 400-600 jumps and original lineset (i.e. needing $300 invested in them for new lines/inspection/shipping) For example, a few months ago I sold a DOM 1991 Sabre-210 with almost no jumps for $775. Being a 91, I had a lot of people be uneasy about it - but someone got an essentially brand new canopy (it had 35 jumps) for half the price of a new Sabre2. If it was made in the late 90s, I am pretty sure I would not have gotten much more - as at Sabre is an older model, and in minds of most people (myself included) when the price starts pushing $1000 you may as well pony up $200 more and get a nice used Sabre2. hope this helps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #9 February 25, 2009 Quote450-500ish jumps... new lines 135 jumps ago... not the original owner... I dunno, I'm beginning to feel that 1000 isn't all to bad. However, in my perfect world the price would be 500 bucks. You're a lot closer to reality than the seller is. Assuming no damage history and that it wasn't jumped primarily in Eloy or Perris, I'd offer $750. If he doesn't bite, walk away. I know used 230's can be hard to find but $1000 for an outdated design is a bit much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
