saber 2 add a big con

[marcandalysse 0]

actually there are more prizes as seen on the dz.com "article" on the home page:

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FREE canopy—your Sabre2 canopy at no charge
FREE flight to Deland, Florida to visit Performance Designs’ facilities.
FREE first jump on your new canopy with John Leblanc, vice-president of Performance Designs and head designer of our products!
FREE case of beer
FREE canopy control class with Scott Miller And of course, tons of pictures and memories as we feature you on magazines and websites worldwide!

heck, i'm buying one today!!

"The reason angels can fly is that they take themselves so lightly." --GK Chesterton

[Buried 0]

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FREE flight to Deland, Florida to visit Performance Designs’ facilities

that would suck if you lived around deland

Where is my fizzy-lifting drink?

[wildblue 7]

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FREE first jump on your new canopy with John Leblanc, vice-president of Performance Designs and head designer of our products!

Will their (I used the correct 'their') deceit never cease?! Now they're trying to market the sabre2 as a tandem canopy?!? Someone could get hurt,,,

it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality

[Dazzle 0]

I read this as John gets to jump your new canopy first rather than you! Not such a great deal, he has enough canopies to jump without jumping yours

[freeflir29 0]

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I read this as John gets to jump your new canopy first rather than you!

That's fine.........as long as I get to pack it.

[marcandalysse 0]

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that would suck if you lived around deland

not if it was from 13500above the dz....

"The reason angels can fly is that they take themselves so lightly." --GK Chesterton

[Paige 0]

This place gone down hill?!?!? Never...well, maybe just a little. I think my sig line adds to the sentiment.

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[freeflir29 0]

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Ignorance rules this place, get off my nutz

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[sunshine 2]

I'd be happy to get a free shirt with the purchase of a canopy.

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[flyangel2 2]

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I wasn't personally too bothered by it, but I must admit, I thought there always had to be a "no purchase necessary" option on this type of thing.

Canuck

Who says that? Is it a law in Canada?

It's John's contest, he can make the rules.

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

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[flyangel2 2]

Laws vary by state.

I just can't image a law that say if you are going to give some thing away you have to say "no purchase necessary".

What about the sales that Payless Shoes does, you buy one, get one free. You don't get the free one till you buy the first one.

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

[pilotdave 0]

I think those laws are to prevent illegal lotteries, etc. You can't sell tickets for a givaway like that. So they have to give an alternate method to enter the contest...for free.

Dave

[skip 0]

Hmm damn I just ordered a sabre2 and a reserve 10 weeks ago. Oh well.

np

[Girlfalldown 0]

I don't really see a problem with this ad. Credit card companies do it all the time. If you use their card in a certain month you have a chance to get all your monthly charges dropped for that month. What's wrong with that? It's just saying you might get the canopy you're already buying for free.

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[Laurel 0]

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I think those laws are to prevent illegal lotteries, etc. You can't sell tickets for a givaway like that. So they have to give an alternate method to enter the contest...for free.

Dave

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. That is exactly why there is a "no purchase necessary" addendum to contests. Lotteries are illegal unless the state agrees to allow it. Even when I worked for a casino, we had to have "no purchase necessary" for contests that involved the retail customer. PD could do this contest if they were utilizing a "PD membership" or if the state of Florida was allowing them to host this lottery. If I were PD or any other company, I would have an attorney look over all contest rules before I hosted a giveaway. CYA (cover your ass).

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[Canuck 0]

Ah HA! I knew it!

Canuck

[pilotdave 0]

I was actually assuming that PD's contest wouldn't apply. I really don't know the law, but their contest seems very different from a lottery. Don't have any idea if it makes a difference legally, but it seems like paying $1600 to possibly win $1600 is different from paying $1 to possibly win $1 million. I dunno... I don't see anything wrong with it (and I love my sabre2 so I'd recommend buying one anyway).
Dave

[leroydb 0]

think you might be upset that the canopy in the contest is not your favorite?

Leroy


..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio...

[Laurel 0]

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I really don't know the law, but their contest seems very different from a lottery. Don't have any idea if it makes a difference legally, but it seems like paying $1600 to possibly win $1600 is different from paying $1 to possibly win $1 million. I dunno... I don't see anything wrong with it (and I love my sabre2 so I'd recommend buying one anyway). Dave

I'm not an attorney. All I am saying is that I would have an attorney double-check the rules for me because this is a lottery in every respect. I have nothing against PD, either. I jump a Sabre and my next canopy will probaby be a Sabre2. I like PD and would hate to see them get in trouble.

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My Pink M

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I'm not an attorney. All I am saying is that I would have an attorney double-check the rules for me because this is a lottery in every respect. I have nothing against PD, either. I jump a Sabre and my next canopy will probaby be a Sabre2. I like PD and would hate to see them get in trouble.

I agree, luckily, I have a solution.

You may enter the contest at any time, without purchase, by calling Performance Designs, stating your name, and asking them if you've won yet.

They will either congratulate you, and help you plan your travel arrangements, or give you their regrets and thank you for playing.

[skydiverjerry 0]

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think you might be upset that the canopy in the contest is not your favorite?

not a bad canopy i had one but i prefer my new firebolt

life is a journey not to arrive at the grave in a pristine condition but to skid in sideways kicking and screaming, shouting "fuck me what a ride!.

[goose491 0]

That's no con. It is not a contest. It's not even a lottery. It's an offer. If you are someone who is buying a Sabre2 soon, you may not have to pay. Of course, it's incentive for all the jumpers who are currently asking themselves "Should I get the Sabre2 or the....?"

Come on pal. Lighten up. If this was a "No purchase necessary" "contest", then what would stop your whuffo next door neighbor from entering and winning a new parachute?

... to either cover their car with, or hurt themselves under before sueing PD.

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

[Paige 0]

Hey I have balls down there too so doesn't that count for something?

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[MarkM 0]

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Never said it was a law, just an observation that in every give-away contest I can think of, the small print or legal ramble always says something to the effect of "No purchase neccessary, see in store for details." Pretty much positive I've heard/seen it on US tv channels and in US magazines too, so I don't think it's a Canadian thing. And yeah, I bet it actually is a law - something to do with advertising standards or gambling or the like.

I was really curious about this too when I saw the ad. I always thought companies had to put a no purchase option in the contests to prevent them from being considered gambling.