lawrocket 3 #51 April 14, 2005 "TACKLEBERRY!!!!!" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superman0710 0 #52 April 14, 2005 and lawrocket too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brierebecca 0 #53 April 14, 2005 I don't know if you still care after the hijack and weapons pictures, but I just did a quick westlaw search, and the supreme court in your state says that in order to commit battery (which is shooting someone) as a self-defense, you have to show: Quote In order to rely on self-defense as a defense, a person must have a belief that the force used was necessary to defend himself and, also, show the existence of facts that support such a belief. State v. Childers, 222 Kan. 32, 48, 563 P.2d 999 (1977). [4] Jackson's claim that... I don't see any special provisions that differentiate someone entering a private residence, but I may not be using the right search terms. But it doesn't sound like the girl is really trying to shoot either of you...stalking may be another matter. hope this helps,"Ive seen you hump air, hump the floor of the plane, and hump legs. You now have a new nickname: "Black Humper of Death"--yardhippie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #54 April 14, 2005 Quote put it this way: to anyone who enjoys guns, posting that pic is the equivalent of someone who enjoys skydiving posting a picture of their rig. and since this IS a gun thread, it only seemed appropriate. Quote Well Okay....That's one way of looking at it I guess... Then again... Ed Mederos, the skydiving...gituar playing, Hooters girl chasing dude that has posted numerous pictures of himself on this and other sites... ...not a lot of criminally minded folks would want to track a skydiver down and steal his rig for unlawful purposes. NOT as though anyone has ever DONE something like that! By the way...where & when you jump again? I'd hate to run into someone @ 173** SW 23* nd st. wouldn't wanna get "86'd or 56'd" if ya know what I mean! Point Taken? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #55 April 14, 2005 Quote No, not trolling, being dead serious cause she broke into our house, stripped down and crawled into bed with my roommate... That's not a troll, considering we each have a weapon in the room and various throughout the house. unless she's infectuous, don't even think about the course you're planning. It's shaky legally, and abysmal on the moral front. 'I was afraid I might get laid' is not going to sell. Yeah, it's a double standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #56 April 14, 2005 Anyone else wondering how she got into the house the first time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #57 April 14, 2005 Quote unless she's infectuous, don't even think about the course you're planning. It's shaky legally, and abysmal on the moral front. 'I was afraid I might get laid' is not going to sell. Yeah, it's a double standard. Now there is a thought: If she had AID's, perhaps it could be argued she was attacking his roommate with a friendly, deadly weapon. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #58 April 14, 2005 The question of this thread was more pointed at the fact, in the event that someone does enter your house and you do not know who it is, do you have the right to draw a weapon on them? Not saying we did, but we both do sleep with them in the event that the unspeakable happens. The person was removed by the police and will be arrested for criminal tresspassing if they return. Again more of a question, you don't always know who's walking into your room, so do you hestitate to draw or not? Not saying actually use it, just to draw it. Is that legal then withdraw once you assume the risk involved, i.e a potato peeler or not lol<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #59 April 14, 2005 Quote The question of this thread was more pointed at the fact, in the event that someone does enter your house and you do not know who it is, do you have the right to draw a weapon on them? Not saying we did, but we both do sleep with them in the event that the unspeakable happens. The person was removed by the police and will be arrested for criminal tresspassing if they return. Again more of a question, you don't always know who's walking into your room, so do you hestitate to draw or not? Not saying actually use it, just to draw it. Is that legal then withdraw once you assume the risk involved, i.e a potato peeler or not lol For anyonewho is ever considering using deadly force in self-defense, here is a must read: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?endeca=1&isbn=0936279001&itm=7 Alternatively, there is the NRA's self-defense course. The book has the advantage of being possibly more thorough; The course has the advantage that if taken in your home state, the instructors will be well-versed in the local laws. Thanks to the mis-information propogated by the entertainment media, the average citizens concept of self-defense is completely backward. People who go to the trouble of studying the subject go through a point where they question whether they even want to consider using a gun in self-defense. Many decide against it. Both the book and the NRA course examine the aftermath of a shooting. What if you accidently hit an innocent bystander? Answer: You're SOL; The law won't protect you. Will the police buy your story? OK, the police agreed with you, and there are no charges. Will the guy you shot sue you? OK, he's dead. Will his family sue you? One interesting point made by a lawyer at NRA course I attended: For a person with a CCW, it is more important to carry pepper spray than for the average person. Why? To avoid needing to draw the gun. BTW in reference to your last question, one of the principles is that you never draw a gun unless you intend to use it. i.e. NEVER, EVER, brandish a gun with the intent to scare or intimidate someone. Only draw a gun when you are prepared to pull the trigger if the situation doesn't improve. And never put your finger on the trigger until a split second before you pull it. Edited to add: "Brandishing" a gun for the purpose of intimidation, when not in a self-defense situation, is its self a crime in my state."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #60 April 14, 2005 Quote I highly reccomend a muzzle strike to the forhead. It's extremely effective. Um, if they are close enough for you to poke them in the forehead with your gun, then they are also close enough to take the gun away from you, stab you, or do numerous other bad things to you. I don't think you want to allow them to get that close to you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #61 April 14, 2005 Quote BTW in reference to your last question, one of the principles is that you never draw a gun unless you intend to use it. i.e. NEVER, EVER, brandish a gun with the intent to scare or intimidate someone. Only draw a gun when you are prepared to pull the trigger if the situation doesn't improve. I have yet to buy into this one. Hopefully I'll never have to test it. The show of superior force gives the other side the opportunity to decide to cut and run. They may get away, but I'm better off than the unknowns in a shooting where they may return fire, and as Dave says, I may have to defend my rightful shooting to the authorities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #62 April 14, 2005 Quote Quote BTW in reference to your last question, one of the principles is that you never draw a gun unless you intend to use it. i.e. NEVER, EVER, brandish a gun with the intent to scare or intimidate someone. Only draw a gun when you are prepared to pull the trigger if the situation doesn't improve. I have yet to buy into this one. Hopefully I'll never have to test it. The show of superior force gives the other side the opportunity to decide to cut and run. They may get away, but I'm better off than the unknowns in a shooting where they may return fire, and as Dave says, I may have to defend my rightful shooting to the authorities. One line of reasoning goes like this: If a person draws a gun, but really isn't prepared to pull the trigger, they may hesitate and let the opponent get too close, resulting in having the gun taken away from them, and used against them. The book I cited gives stats (I'm going from memory) that in 12 out of 13 cases, drawing the gun will cause the opponent to withdraw, but you can't count on it. (Of course at night, the perp may not be able to see if you in fact really have a gun)."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #63 April 14, 2005 12 of 13 for a guaranteed good ending is pretty good odds. Seems better than the alternative of waiting till the person gets close before you pull it out. In close proximity, I see a great risk of having it turned on you. Pull and fire, or retreat and pull and reevaluate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #64 April 14, 2005 Quote 12 of 13 for a guaranteed good ending is pretty good odds. Seems better than the alternative of waiting till the person gets close before you pull it out. Branishing without intent or cause is illegal and you'll get your ass handed to yourself in court for that...atleast in TX, check your state's laws.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #65 April 15, 2005 Here we are talking about guns, and JohnRich is participating, but we haven't been moved to Speakers Corner. I'm confused. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #66 April 15, 2005 As long as we talk about self defense instead of gun rights versus gun control and other political stuff, the thread can stay right where it is.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
