champu 1 #26 April 15, 2005 Quote How does it work? What does it use to store power? these QuoteWhat happens if I stick it on my tongue?? you'll find out if it's charged Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #27 April 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteThat's an ultra fluxcapacitor pack. There, fixed it for ya, Bill! ltdiver Ok...I died laughing when I read that...... ~R+R...I know...I'm a dork......~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #28 April 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat's an ultra fluxcapacitor pack. There, fixed it for ya, Bill! ltdiver Ok...I died laughing when I read that...... ~R+R...I know...I'm a dork...... But, fine police officer, man....I HAD to get it up to 88 mph for it to work! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadRash 0 #29 April 15, 2005 ROFLAO!!!!!!! I wonder what the ticket will be for speeding in a mall parking lot? Sorry son, you were going 88 in a 15mph zone...... ~R+R...~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Fly the friendly skies...^_^...})ii({...^_~... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #30 April 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat happens if I stick it on my tongue?? you'll find out if it's charged Been there, done that (not the tongue, but my arms) Hurt like hell and burned a few of my fingers pretty bad. The capacitor I was screwing with was about 1/3-1/4 the size of that one too. I pay attention to the warning labels now.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #31 April 15, 2005 What's the farad rating on that? 58 farad or .58 farad? Can't read it it's a little blurry- Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #32 April 15, 2005 You do know I've got a BEng, right? . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #33 April 15, 2005 Dammit, I was hoping for the flying cars from The Jetsons within the next 15 years. Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #34 April 15, 2005 >How does it work? What does it use to store power? It's a capacitor. In its simplest form, a capacitor is two insulated metal plates close to each other. Put a lot of electrons on one plate (i.e. give it a 'negative charge') and they will stay there until you take them out. Capacitors are all over - you probably have 200 of them in your computer alone - but until recently could only store small amounts of charge in them. Now they are a lot better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #35 April 15, 2005 what's the farad rating on that thing? I still remember the fun I had chasing the other EM's on my ship around with a charged picofarad capacitor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #36 April 15, 2005 >if it would take ten seconds to charge it, what sort of charger would >it need. A massive one. You'd need as much power as your average city block if you wanted to do it in ten seconds. It would be big enough that you'd want to permanently mount it on a pedestal at a gas station or something. >If I had a hybrid, and electric was supplied by this capacitor, would >it take three hours to charge it off the the power generated by the > car motor? If it was a hybrid, it would take (calculator time) about 5 minutes to fully charge the pack I described above, assuming a 25kW motor/generator and a pack made up of 300 modules. Of course, in your typical hybrid, the battery never gets fully charged or discharged; it just 'smooths out' the peaks and valleys of power demand from the engine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #37 April 15, 2005 >What's the farad rating on that? 58 farads at 15 volts. 25 kilojoules storage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydivingNurse 0 #38 April 15, 2005 Damn, the biggest capacitor I ever saw was only rated in microfarads. That's seriously cool stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #39 April 15, 2005 Quote58 farads at 15 volts. 25 kilojoules storage. Sweet mother! Damn, that *is* impressive!Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #40 April 15, 2005 Quote58 farads at 15 volts. 25 kilojoules storage. how much energy is that in units of "elephants at an altitude of 10km"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #41 April 15, 2005 >58 farads at 15 volts. 25 kilojoules storage. oops, make that 6.5kJ of storage. Serves me right trying to use this Windows calculator. Four of these packs in a railgun could get a projectile the size of a .38 slug to 1780fps. Recharge would take a while though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #42 April 15, 2005 Quotehow much energy is that in units of "elephants at an altitude of 10km"? Forget that, I wanna' know how may LoC's (Libraries of Congress) that is.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #43 April 15, 2005 Quoteoops, make that 6.5kJ of storage. Serves me right trying to use this Windows calculator. Four of these packs in a railgun could get a projectile the size of a .38 slug to 1780fps. Recharge would take a while though. Okay, that makes more sense. I was reading 25kJ and wondering why we were waiting 15 years!Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #44 April 15, 2005 QuoteQuotehow much energy is that in units of "elephants at an altitude of 10km"? Forget that, I wanna' know how may LoC's (Libraries of Congress) that is. Space shuttle fuel tanks was my other favorite... and we have to be able to work football fields into this somehow... Would these things suffer any signifigant life degredation if you charged them really quickly? say, by using another, higher capacity cap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #45 April 15, 2005 Quote>58 farads at 15 volts. 25 kilojoules storage. oops, make that 6.5kJ of storage. Serves me right trying to use this Windows calculator. Four of these packs in a railgun could get a projectile the size of a .38 slug to 1780fps. Recharge would take a while though. IIRC, that's about 30 times the power output of a defibrillator thingy.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #46 April 15, 2005 Gawd that seems huge - 10 Years ago a few of us ham-radio geeks were sitting in our club shack wonder how big a full 1-farad capacitor would have to be, let alone 58 farad. (We had been given a whole bunch if big-as-a-beer-can caps for building power supplies, etc.) Getting hit by that would kill a guy for sure. We've come along way, baby! Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #47 April 15, 2005 That's cool! Hopefully it's less than ten years, but probably not. I predict that I will drink tequila this weekend. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #48 April 16, 2005 How soon until we see capacitors powering short-range airplanes (crop dusters, sight-seeing, skydiving, etc.). Can you imagine a jump plane quietly pulling up to the loading dock, ground plugging in a cable, a leisurely 4 minute loading process, then taking off with only wind noise? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #49 April 16, 2005 QuoteHow soon until we see capacitors powering short-range airplanes (crop dusters, sight-seeing, skydiving, etc.). Can you imagine a jump plane quietly pulling up to the loading dock, ground plugging in a cable, a leisurely 4 minute loading process, then taking off with only wind noise? Now that would be seriously kick ass!It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #50 April 16, 2005 QuoteQuoteHow soon until we see capacitors powering short-range airplanes (crop dusters, sight-seeing, skydiving, etc.). Can you imagine a jump plane quietly pulling up to the loading dock, ground plugging in a cable, a leisurely 4 minute loading process, then taking off with only wind noise? Now that would be seriously kick ass! What, no smell of jet fuel in the morning?! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites