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When I have kids they will be raised the same as if there were no non-registered offeners in the area. I'll raise my kids to treat everyone as a potential criminal. It does'nt bother me at all.



I doesn't "BOTHER" you that you have to teach your kids that NOONE is trustworthy.

It doesn't "bother at all" that your kids will end up trusting noone.
Because friends, are only people you trust.

It would suck to grow up friendless and paranoid.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Great, then they can just move them all to your area.



I wasn't going to go there - but that does seem a viable option if he's willing to accept it with "No Problem".

Of course - by the time he actually does have children and starts raising them - his opinion will have changed alot closer to ours, I suspect.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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2 of the offenders are under the age of 25 with 5 years time served each for sex with a minor. One of the court cases shows a 19 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend so they arrested him by the time it went to court he was 20 and she was still 17 so they went ahead with the case.



You are assuming that the reason that he was charged was simply due to age, not that he HURT his girlfriend (or she hurt him, whichever the case may be...). Do you REALLY believe that a girlfriend is just going to go to the police and report that her bf raped her JUST because she is underage?? Do you think it happens OFTEN that a parent tries to charge a teenager one year older than their daughter/son with rape? Come on, now. Use some common sense about these things...unless it says in the report that both parties were willing participants, just because they are young, DO NOT assume that it was simply a violation due to the participants' ages...[:/]
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My son was born a few years after the Candy Man poisoned Halloween "forever." We went trick-or-treating at friends' and known neighbors' houses.

I'm sure there were sex offenders who lived around where we did, but, well, without the Internet we didn't know about it. So we just raised our son to be careful, and not to let people touch him where they shouldn't. Not much else we could do.

Without automatic death or LWOP penalties for all sex offenders (which I think might be a little harsh), or allowing the state to castrate those who ask for it (Texas refused when a prisoner wanted that a few years ago), we have to assume that not everyone we meet is nice.

It sucks. But, ya know, there have always been sex offenders. Always. We just can look up where they live now.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Do you know what it's like to get a phone call in the middle of the night from a woman that is scared to death because she is having flashbacks to when she was rapped? Nope, didn't think so. They suffer the rest of their lives.



Actually I do. Nice assumption there Mar. I've had a handful of close friends that I've had that have suffered that fate. I know exactly what its like to be able to do nothing to help, wanting to help but not being able to do anything but simply be there for them.

So go ahead with your assumptions, they're not true...although we've met a couple of times I think you still have a LOT to learn about me.

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I didn't say a thing about a cross. I'm just thinking a few people, sitting on the curb in lawnchairs reading their newspaper. To compare what the KKK did to a sex offender is way off base IMO.



That is discrimination, that is using a fear tactic, that is the same thing that anti-civil rights organizations used even as recently as in my lifetime.

You're blind to the fact that they are infact the same.

If you wish to discuss this further, please feel free to PM me I would be happy to chat there.
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Ditto.

I'm not saying "harrassment" is okay, but being informed is an absolute!! You KNOW exactly where the offender (or at least some of them) is and can at least keep your child out of harms way. Nothing is fool-proof, however knowledge is power.

These people do not get better. I don't feel sorry for them. If they commit a crime towards a child, I don't give a crap about their rights....they imposed a life sentence against themselves when they committed the act. I'm not referencing the 19 y/o with 17 y/o. The information for these criminals is in the database. Shows the age of the perp and the age of the victim. I saw nothing about flashing boobs or public sex in my searches.

It is very upsetting that the exact address of these criminals is not provided in the database for some states. They lost their "rights" when they harmed a child.

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Do you think it happens OFTEN that a parent tries to charge a teenager one year older than their daughter/son with rape?



Actually, yes.

I've personally seen it more then a dozen times actually, and that's just in my own little world that doesn't know about the "real world." (according to some people's opinions of me).

I'm not going to take my time to research the numbers to convince you, but if you're honestly searching for a true answer then I would suggest that you take the time to look up the numbers.
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Do you think it happens OFTEN that a parent tries to charge a teenager one year older than their daughter/son with rape?



Actually, yes.

I've personally seen it more then a dozen times actually, and that's just in my own little world that doesn't know about the "real world." (according to some people's opinions of me).

I'm not going to take my time to research the numbers to convince you, but if you're honestly searching for a true answer then I would suggest that you take the time to look up the numbers.



Then between us we have seen the two sides of the coin. We'll leave it at that.
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Back to my original post, though...:P

My sister called and said that the news just said the police have the guy in custody, and the elementary schools have been taken off of lock-down...

>phew<...these things aren't fun to wake up to. [:/]
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I'm not saying "harrassment" is okay, but being informed is an absolute!! You KNOW exactly where the offender (or at least some of them) is and can at least keep your child out of harms way. Nothing is fool-proof, however knowledge is power.

These people do not get better. I don't feel sorry for them. If they commit a crime towards a child, I don't give a crap about their rights....they imposed a life sentence against themselves when they committed the act. I'm not referencing the 19 y/o with 17 y/o. The information for these criminals is in the database. Shows the age of the perp and the age of the victim. I saw nothing about flashing boobs or public sex in my searches.

It is very upsetting that the exact address of these criminals is not provided in the database for some states. They lost their "rights" when they harmed a child.



Just because someone is on a sex crime registry does not mean the crime was against a child. The problem with the registry is that there is no information about exactly what happened. There's a difference between a serial child molester and the 19/17 year old sex example, but there's no way to differentiate it based on a web page.

No one deserves to be harrassed, regardless of what they have done. Sex offenders also pay the price for the rest of their lives. Many in the community know who they are thanks to the registry (which is a good thing) and the registrees will be treated like they have the boubonic plague. They are often booted out of their own families, their lives are very different, whether rehabbed or not. I have 2 that are patients here, though we all try not to, they are treated differently than 'normal' people.

This is not to defend sex offenders, but everyone deserves some degree of privacy and not have a community staring at their door in one big cluster on the street.

I know what it is like to live every day affected by abuse. My mother molested me for many years, I ran away at 17. I protected my little brother from her abuse. She was not convicted, but my parents are shunned by the entire extended family. They have a new grandson that they will never truly know. I hate my mother will more passion than anyone who has not been in the situation can not possibly fathom. But I also would not subject her to harassment. She may be an unethical, immoral bitch, but that doesn't mean I have to be.

Jen

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Taken from: http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html a Federal project led by the Department of Justice.

Myth:
"Most sex offenders reoffend."
Fact:
Reconviction data suggest that this is not the case. Further, reoffense rates vary among different types of sex offenders and are related to specific characteristics of the offender and the offense.

Persons who commit sex offenses are not a homogeneous group, but instead fall into several different categories. As a result, research has identified significant differences in reoffense patterns from one category to another. Looking at reconviction rates alone, one large-scale analysis (Hanson and Bussiere, 1998) reported the following differences:

child molesters had a 13% reconviction rate for sexual offenses and a 37% reconviction rate for new, non-sex offenses over a five year period; and
rapists had a 19% reconviction rate for sexual offenses and a 46% reconviction rate for new, non-sexual offenses over a five year period.
Another study found reconviction rates for child molesters to be 20% and for rapists to be approximately 23% (Quinsey, Rice, and Harris, 1995).
Individual characteristics of the crimes further distinguish recidivism rates. For instance, victim gender and relation to the offender have been found to impact recidivism rates. In a 1995 study, researchers found that offenders who had extrafamilial female victims had a recidivism rate of 18% and those who had extrafamilial male victims recidivated at a rate of 35%. This same study found a recidivism rate for incest offenders to be approximately 9% (Quinsey, Rice, and Harris, 1995).

It is noteworthy that recidivism rates for sex offenders are lower than for the general criminal population. For example, one study of 108,580 non-sex criminals released from prisons in 11 states in 1983 found that nearly 63% were rearrested for a non-sexual felony or serious misdemeanor within three years of their release from incarceration; 47% were reconvicted; and 41% were ultimately returned to prison or jail (Bureau of Justice Statistics).

It is important to note that not all sex crimes are solved or result in arrest and only a fraction of sex offenses are reported to police. The reliance on measures of recidivism as reflected through official criminal justice system data (i.e., rearrest or reconviction rates) obviously omits offenses that are not cleared through an arrest (and thereby cannot be attributed to any individual offender) or those that are never reported to the police. For a variety of reasons, many victims of sexual assault are reluctant to invoke the criminal justice process and do not report their victimization to the police. For these reasons, relying on rearrest and reconviction data underestimates actual reoffense numbers.


From these numbers you have far more to worry about with a bulglar moving into your neighbor then you do on a sex crimes if you are just worried about repeat behaivor.


From http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html

Hanson and Bussiere (1998) reported an overall recidivism rate of 13 percent.
Grumfeld and Noreik (1986) found a 10 percent recidivism rate for rapists.
Gibbens, Soothill, and Way (1978) reported a 4 percent recidivism rate for incest offenders.

That basically means that over a 10-15 year time peroid only 13% of all convicted sex offeners are convicted of another sex crime also. The rest of the crimes are committed by first time offenders.
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And that is a little more than one out of 10.

Ask yourself this -

If you had to go to silver 13% of the time - would you be ok with that too?
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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No where in the report or charges does it say rape. It specifically says consentual sex.

When I was in High School (less then 7 years ago in a school of less then 85 graduating students) I had 2 other students in the area arrested for having a relationship that the girls parents did not approve of and accept. They later kicked the charges out the window after both of the guys agreed to quit seeing the girls. One of those couples later went on to get married after she turned 18.
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Something that you probally missed in those reports are that there are an estimated 2/3's of all sexual crimes that are unreported and therefor unarrested. All of those potential repeat offeners and first time offenders are out there also.

13% is much less then the rate of violent offensive repeating. Thats at close to 65%. Why is'nt there a database and public notification of everytime someone convicted of assult is relased and moved into your neighborhood? They are FAR more likely to repeat then a sex crime offender is. I'd think it would be best to know every potential arrest in the neighborhood so that if you see Joe that was convicted of assult is out with a baseball bat you could avoid him, or if Sue who has been convicted of a DUI has a beer at a picnic you can avoid going on the roads with her.

13% out of less then 10,000 over the course of 15 years is a very small number.
its approx 100 nationwide on a yearly basis. There are almost that many skydiving deaths worldwide in a year.

And if you've ever seen me pack you'd know I should probally go to silver 1 out of 1 times :D
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I find it good to know of someone like this guy in my neighborhood:

Offense 11990004 Aggravated Sexual Assault Child
General Offense Code
Counts 1
Victim's Sex Female
Victim's Age 3.0
Disposition Date 04/23/1990
Time 10Y
Status PAR/DIS

I'm glad I KNOW exactly where this predator lives.

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i think you do a sex crime you have to go to prison and have a sex crime done to you 10x worse (aka broom handle) or something along those line. everything now adays is becoming so filled up with bullshit. i figure you do a crime that your rights shouldn't come to your punishment


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LOL @ Packing.

Seriously - though - my guess would be that they are not predators toward children.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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i think you do a sex crime you have to go to prison and have a sex crime done to you 10x worse (aka broom handle) or something along those line. everything now adays is becoming so filled up with bullshit. i figure you do a crime that your rights shouldn't come to your punishment



That is rediculous -

somewhat desireable - but not realistic, and definately not moral.

Sex offenders, no, not the ones that were discussed earlier, but the violent ones, and child molesters should be sequestered - what they did was unimaginably cruel. But to have that done to them - wouold be just as wrong.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Sequestered for how long. For life? Where?

Does that mean an automatic LWOP for all convicted violent sex offenders?

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Most sex offenders are not predators, and only a section of sex crimes are towards childern. Up until last year sodamy in Texas could get you on the sex offenders list if you were convicted. Every gay male in TX could have been put on that list and how many of them would suddenly have started stalking childern to molest?;)

I know I've seen things at dropzones that could easly get people arrested for sex crimes (Sex in airplanes/cars, flashing at boogies, etc). Hell most the posters here have admitted to doing something that could technically get them arrested.
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Sequestered for how long. For life? Where?

Does that mean an automatic LWOP for all convicted violent sex offenders?

Wendy W.



heh - I read LWOP

and all I can think of is a typo and you meant to lop something off.:D
Depending on the crime - yes.

I am assuming tha you meant sterility -
I could care less about that -

I'm thinking more along the lines of "Escape From New York"
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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No where in the report or charges does it say rape. It specifically says consentual sex.

When I was in High School (less then 7 years ago in a school of less then 85 graduating students) I had 2 other students in the area arrested for having a relationship that the girls parents did not approve of and accept. They later kicked the charges out the window after both of the guys agreed to quit seeing the girls. One of those couples later went on to get married after she turned 18.



Then what I posted earlier:
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Bill, had to be over 18...not a 17 with a 16, etc. -In that case, yes I would agree, not the 'sex offender' that we are discussing here.



Would apply. If that report that you were siting, Phree, specifically said 'consentual', then see above.
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